Minnesota is the new California: the bastion of no law and disorder by its Tampon Tim Loving residents

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I have never had an issue with producing my government issued ID on the request of any police officer. It has long been stablished that requesting an ID is a legal order that must be complied with.

It is not unlawful to temporarily detain someone for an ID check. There does not need to be a probable cause reason. An ID check may legally be done during any interaction with an LEO.

So what is the big deal in Minneapolis?

Except that what you are saying is just not true.

You do not have to provide identification unless you are being detained by the officer. Being detained by the authorities comes with certain legal requirements. The primary being reasonable suspicion or probable cause.

Read up on your rights here.

https://legalclarity.org/when-can-an...sk-you-for-id/
When Can an Officer Legally Ask You for ID?

A consensual encounter is a voluntary interaction between a citizen and a police officer where the person reasonably believes they are free to leave at any time. In this scenario, an officer can approach you and ask questions, including a request to see your identification. During a consensual encounter, you are not legally obligated to provide your ID, and you have the right to politely refuse the officer’s request.

The core of a consensual encounter is your freedom to terminate it. If an officer does not have a legal basis to detain you, you can walk away. You can also verbally confirm the nature of the encounter by asking, “Am I free to go?” If the officer says yes, the interaction remains consensual, and you can leave without providing any information. The moment an officer’s actions would make a reasonable person feel they cannot leave, the encounter becomes a detention.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I have never had an issue with producing my government issued ID on the request of any police officer. It has long been stablished that requesting an ID is a legal order that must be complied with.

It is not unlawful to temporarily detain someone for an ID check. There does not need to be a probable cause reason. An ID check may legally be done during any interaction with an LEO.

So what is the big deal in Minneapolis?

You might want to do a little research on that. Though it varies a bit by state law, in general neither local, state or federal law enforcement does not have a legal right to simply or randomly demand ID nor detain a pedestrian for not providing ID. A driver providing a DL and insurance is different.
There's the little thing called reasonable suspicion..


Minnesota does not have a 'stop and search' law.

https://www.google.com/search?q=is+r...t=gws-wiz-serp
https://www.google.com/search?q=is+i...t=gws-wiz-serp
https://www.google.com/search?q=does...hrome&ie=UTF-8

[Clay Media]

Minnesota is a popsicle shithole.

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[ICU 812]

When I have traveled abroad, I wore a document holder around me neck with my ID papers in it whenever I went out on the street. In the 1980s we lived in Athens Greece for my work . . .and that was a normal thing to do.

N ow-a-days, we live in Texas and whenever going out of the house, my state issued ID (I do not drive) is in my wallet.

This ID thing in Minnesota is a red herring, much like the voter ID cujrfuffel we go through every election cycle.

[ICU 812]

While the current upheaval we see on TV every day captures our attention, it does not present the whole of Minnesota as a state or the bulk of its people.. The Land zOf Ten Thousand Lakes is a wonderful place with wonderful people and great fishing, both summer snd winter.

We cannot dismiss Minnesota just because a newly intrtoducd segment of its population does not have a cultural heritage that values Ice Fishing.

[Yssup Rider]

A newly introduced segment of its population?

There is ALWAYS a newly introduced segment of the population.

Some of you fine Americans can’t seem to remember that.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by elghund

January 6th……right wingers, they really are the party of unlawfulness, unaccepting and treason…..

elg…..

Originally Posted by CG2014

You are changing the subject and hijacking my thread, elghund.

No. He is defining the hypocrisy of rightie rightwingers choose to be blind to.

And his reply to your comment is just as on point.

Originally Posted by elghund

elg…..

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I have never had an issue with producing my government issued ID on the request of any police officer. It has long been stablished that requesting an ID is a legal order that must be complied with.

It is not unlawful to temporarily detain someone for an ID check. There does not need to be a probable cause reason. An ID check may legally be done during any interaction with an LEO.

So what is the big deal in Minneapolis?

It is not the law of the land that you have to show on demand an ID. Now it probably is law that you have to have means to identify yourself. That doesn't mean you have to show it.

[Mort Watt]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

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This ID thing in Minnesota is a red herring, much like the voter ID cujrfuffel we go through every election cycle.

Hmmmmm. We should check with Anne Frank on whether she thinks this whole "show us your papers" thing is a "kerfluffle."

(oh...wait....nevermind...)

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[Brot]

In typical trump fashion, this went from deporting all the illegal criminals in the country to starting fires in all the democratic bastions so they can pretend to be fire fighters.


It is true that if Trump goons manage to deport all non white immigrants, it will include a few criminals in the sweep. Bonus for gunning down a liberal lesbian protestor.

[Yssup Rider]

When they came for the …

[pxmcc]

^^well said sir. let's unite and face our internal monstrosity as one..

Trump deploys U.S. troops on U.S. soil. this shit is far from legal..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...urrection-act/

[elghund]

Originally Posted by Brot

In typical trump fashion, this went from deporting all the illegal criminals in the country to starting fires in all the democratic bastions so they can pretend to be fire fighters.


It is true that if Trump goons manage to deport all non white immigrants, it will include a few criminals in the sweep. Bonus for gunning down a liberal lesbian protestor.

Originally Posted by pxmcc

^^well said sir. let's unite and face our internal monstrosity as one..

Trump deploys U.S. troops on U.S. soil. this shit is far from legal..

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...urrection-act/

There was a time when no American would tolerate a President taking actions like this.

A portion of our country has certainly lost their fucking minds in the name of culture wars, investigations that go nowhere and the change from going after illegals to inciting riots with American Citizens.

elg…..

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by elghund

There was a time when no American would tolerate a President taking actions like this.

A portion of our country has certainly lost their fucking minds in the name of culture wars, investigations that go nowhere and the change from going after illegals to inciting riots with American Citizens.

elg…..

Agreed. 100%