Why Are Republicans OK With Trump Administration Blatantly Lying About EVERYTHING

[Mplay]

You tell me when politicians in general tell the truth.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

The real question though is being politically right so much more important than calling out blatantly untrue statements for republicans? Are they so blinded by their tribalism that they are incapable of saying "yeah, that was a lie?"

I believe that these questions can cut both ways.

It may be that some on the right will never call out Republicans whenever(if ever) they misrepresent the facts. Yet this seems to also be true for the progressive liberals, and in a much deeper way. It is only a year and a month since Joe Biden was president, but we all seem to have forgotten about his first, and only four years as President.

There are now tell-all books by people who were right there with him, that assert that Biden was nearly a vegetable in office. Journalists nd WH insiders alike say that others were in charge. Not quite a "smoking gun' , but there is the smoldering rubbish of the autopen.

And at the time, everyone on the left were glad to front these lies to the public and work vigorously to squelch and one who said otherwise.

No, self delusion and the telling of outright falsehoods are not the sole domaine of the Republicans side.. not by a long shot.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I believe that these questions can cut both ways.

It may be that some on the right will never call out Republicans whenever(if ever) they misrepresent the facts. Yet this seems to also be true for the progressive liberals, and in a much deeper way. It is only a year and a month since Joe Biden was president, but we all seem to have forgotten about his first, and only four years as President.

There are now tell-all books by people who were right there with him, that assert that Biden was nearly a vegetable in office. Journalists nd WH insiders alike say that others were in charge. Not quite a "smoking gun' , but there is the smoldering rubbish of the autopen.

And at the time, everyone on the left were glad to front these lies to the public and work vigorously to squelch and one who said otherwise.

No, self delusion and the telling of outright falsehoods are not the sole domaine of the Republicans side.. not by a long shot.

True...but Trump is particularly very good and loud at telling outright falsehoods...and continues to repeat them even after they've been clearly rebutted.

Prime example 100% percent discounts

[RX792P]

Even better example
Stephen Miller

"A would be assassin tried to murder federal law enforcement and the official Democrat account sides with the terrorist"

"An assassin tried to murder federal agents and this is your response?"

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I believe that these questions can cut both ways.

It may be that some on the right will never call out Republicans whenever(if ever) they misrepresent the facts. Yet this seems to also be true for the progressive liberals, and in a much deeper way. It is only a year and a month since Joe Biden was president, but we all seem to have forgotten about his first, and only four years as President.

There are now tell-all books by people who were right there with him, that assert that Biden was nearly a vegetable in office. Journalists nd WH insiders alike say that others were in charge. Not quite a "smoking gun' , but there is the smoldering rubbish of the autopen.

And at the time, everyone on the left were glad to front these lies to the public and work vigorously to squelch and one who said otherwise.

No, self delusion and the telling of outright falsehoods are not the sole domaine of the Republicans side.. not by a long shot.

So you admit that Trump and his administration lie all the time and people like you don’t admit that’s occurring?

Simple question for you, easy peazy, does Trump often lie? Do members of his administration often lie?

Here’s another one, were they lying when they claimed Perreti approached ICE/CBP agents and attacked them?

See it’s easy, you can be the icon of honesty.

[ICU 812]

I make no such assertion.

History has begun to shine light on the chimera of the Biden presidency. the harder it is looked at the thinner the illusion of a man inchargew of his faculties or his administrative office becomes.

The mendacity of those who supported reported on the Biden Wite house will also be looked at in the coming years.

In a like manner, the efficacy and forthrightness of President Trump's two presidencies will be deeply examined by political historians and that will be contrasted with those who have had the office before him.

It may be called grandstanding when President Trump holds a signing session in public, but no one really knows what former President Biden signed. it is often opined that he himself didn't;t know.

[Turner2099]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I make no such assertion.

History has begun to shine light on the chimera of the Biden presidency. the harder it is looked at the thinner the illusion of a man inchargew of his faculties or his administrative office becomes.

The mendacity of those who supported reported on the Biden Wite house will also be looked at in the coming years.

In a like manner, the efficacy and forthrightness of President Trump's two presidencies will be deeply examined by political historians and that will be contrasted with those who have had the office before him.

It may be called grandstanding when President Trump holds a signing session in public, but no one really knows what former President Biden signed. it is often opined that he himself didn't;t know.

Regarding Trump's mendacity, just read the article in Wikipedia called "False or misleading statements by Donald Trump". It starts by pointing out that The Washington Post "documented 30,573 false or misleading claims during his first presidential term" and goes from there. The article goes back to the 70s and has plenty of references to back up the claims made. I think it's pretty clear that no President has lied as much as Trump and although he may have redefined lying in US politics, it will be hard for any future President to surpass Trump's falsehoods. At least I hope so.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/False_...y_Donald_Trump

Political historians have already voiced their opinion about Trump's first term. In 2024, a survey of 154 political scientists and historians ranked Donald Trump last (45th) among U.S. presidents. Another 2022 Siena College poll placed him in the bottom three. Prior to Trump, Presidents James Buchanan (for failing to prevent the Civil War) and Andrew Johnson (for failing to manage Reconstruction) were frequently cited as the worst in history

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor..._United_States

Trump certainly signed quite a number of executive orders. Do you really think he knew exactly what he was signing? He certainly didn't write them and I don't think he conceived them. He was handed a 900 page playbook before he even took office. It's estimated that 40% to 45% of evaluated executive orders align with Project 2025, something Trump said he didn't know anything about.

I will give him credit for his tariffs, though. Even Reagan said tariffs were bad, so I don't see anyone from the Heritage Foundation recommending these regressive taxes.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I make no such assertion.

History has begun to shine light on the chimera of the Biden presidency. the harder it is looked at the thinner the illusion of a man inchargew of his faculties or his administrative office becomes.

The mendacity of those who supported reported on the Biden Wite house will also be looked at in the coming years.

In a like manner, the efficacy and forthrightness of President Trump's two presidencies will be deeply examined by political historians and that will be contrasted with those who have had the office before him.

It may be called grandstanding when President Trump holds a signing session in public, but no one really knows what former President Biden signed. it is often opined that he himself didn't;t know.

So you remain one of the liars as well. Just as I thought. I asked very straightforward and simple questions about Trump and his officials. You failed to answer and spent time going on about something else. I’ll be less rude that what words cross my mind and say “if you’re incapable of answering the question posed you should just remain quiet”. I didn’t ask you anything about Biden. I asked you about Trump and his administration. I’ll just put you in the liar category.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

It may be called grandstanding when President Trump holds a signing session in public, but no one really knows what former President Biden signed. it is often opined that he himself didn't;t know.

To get back to at least part of the topic...

As of January 23, 2026, President Donald Trump (R) had signed 231 executive orders, 57 memoranda, and 121 proclamations in his second presidential term.
I'd opine Trump didn't know what some of those were and some were signed with autopen (Trump himself admitted he's used autopen)

[Precious_b]

Some of donnys lies:

Not support a federal abortion ban
None

Give green cards to people on student visas who graduate from U.S. colleges
None

Adopt a four-year plan to phase out Chinese imports
None

Create deregulated "freedom cities” on federal land
None

Leave Social Security and Medicare unchanged
None

End veteran homelessness
None

Provide $10,000 per child tax-free to homeschoolers
None

Incentivize abolishing teacher tenure for grades K-12
None

Seek the death penalty for child rapists and child traffickers
None

Impose the death penalty for selling drugs
None

Increase liability protections for police officers
None

Mandate that any child identity changes have parental consent
None

Cut the federal budget every year
None

Ban federal workers from taking jobs at companies they regulated
None

Sign a bill revisiting Section 230 for tech platforms
None

Create a victims' compensation fund of "migrant crime" from seized gang assets
None
None | January 19, 2025

[RX792P]

May or may not be related to Trump's veracity...

Germany’s federal criminal police office on Wednesday carried out a raid on the country’s largest bank, Deutsche Bank, reportedly on money-laundering allegations tied to Russian magnate Roman Abramovich.

Deutsche Bank confirmed it was a target of a raid and said it is fully cooperating with authorities.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/de...?mod=home_lead
The allegations relate to transactions with entities linked to the Russian billionaire between 2013 and 2018, people familiar with the matter said. The investigation is particularly focused on three companies, one of the people said.





That would be the same Deutsche Bank that loaned a cumulative total of around $2.5 billion to Trump projects over the past two decades, and the bank continued writing him nine-figure checks even after he defaulted on a $640 million obligation and sued the bank, blaming it for his failure to pay back the debt.

Not the first time Deutsche Bank's relationships with Russia (and Trump) have been scrutinized.

The bank was “laundering money for wealthy Russians and people connected to Putin and the Kremlin in a variety of ways for almost the exact time period that they were doing business with Donald Trump,” Enrich said. “And all of that money through Deutsche Bank was being channeled through the same exact legal entity in the U.S. that was handling the Donald Trump relationship in the U.S. And so there are a lot of coincidences here.”

[biomed1]

To The Original Topic . . .

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

So you remain one of the liars as well. Just as I thought. I asked very straightforward and simple questions about Trump and his officials. You failed to answer and spent time going on about something else. I’ll be less rude that what words cross my mind and say “if you’re incapable of answering the question posed you should just remain quiet”. I didn’t ask you anything about Biden. I asked you about Trump and his administration. I’ll just put you in the liar category.

Yeah, that is all good stuff. No quarrel with what you hav said there.

What I was trying to express though is that often things look somewhat different from the perspective of several to many decades later on. In the immediate present we tend to be narrowly focused on what has just taken place. What I am saying is that political science scholars and historians in fifty years will not have been involved with the politics s of the present day and recent past during their own lifetime. Because of that they will take a wider look at that which is now.

In doing so, they will contrast and impair the actions of presidents and parties in a much broader context than just President Trump's two administrations. That President Obama came before Mr. Trump and that President Biden came between will be in their focus.

However any of us view these recent presidents today , analyst, scholars and historians of the future will have a less involved and more objective place to look at it all from.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by biomed1

To The Original Topic . . .

Why Are Republicans OK With Trump Administration Blatantly Lying About EVERYTHING

My opinion
“Repeat a lie often enough and it becomes the truth”,

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

Yeah, that is all good stuff. No quarrel with what you hav said there.

What I was trying to express though is that often things look somewhat different from the perspective of several to many decades later on. In the immediate present we tend to be narrowly focused on what has just taken place. What I am saying is that political science scholars and historians in fifty years will not have been involved with the politics s of the present day and recent past during their own lifetime. Because of that they will take a wider look at that which is now.

In doing so, they will contrast and impair the actions of presidents and parties in a much broader context than just President Trump's two administrations. That President Obama came before Mr. Trump and that President Biden came between will be in their focus.

However any of us view these recent presidents today , analyst, scholars and historians of the future will have a less involved and more objective place to look at it all from.

Again, continuing the lies that were pointed out earlier. And an inability to answer the simple questions that were put to you regarding the outright untruthful statements made by republicans. You could be a man, well at least an honest person, just answer the questions rather than obfuscating.