Don Lemon Arrested

[ICU 812]

I am hearing that federal law has says that if one has knowledge of a federal crime about to be committed or a criminal in progress . . .and does not inform the authorities . . . .that inaction is also a federal crime called "misprision of a felony" .

And yes, the First Amendment does apply directly to the government as in " . . .Congress shall make no law . . .". However, there is federal statute law regarding disrupting or impeding religious activities in or out of a place of worship.

It is likely that Lemon will be charged with something like that. IMoreover, i sounds as though some of the n on-protester church goers were prevented from leaving or moving about freely by the protesters. This could be construed as kidnapping, a serious feral crime.

All this could be far more serious than those folks thought it would be.

[txdot-guy]

Lemon is charged with is charged with conspiracy to deprive rights and interfering by force with someone’s First Amendment rights. I would be highly surprised if they could both prove both intent and conspiracy.

Intent goes out the window when you consider his actions on the recordings. He’s acting as a journalist.

Conspiracy is even harder to prove. That’s why the charges were dismissed in the first place.

This is a total political hatchet job being used to intimidate the press.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

Lemon is charged with is charged with conspiracy to deprive rights and interfering by force with someone’s First Amendment rights. I would be highly surprised if they could both prove both intent and conspiracy.

Intent goes out the window when you consider his actions on the recordings. He’s acting as a journalist.

Conspiracy is even harder to prove. That’s why the charges were dismissed in the first place.

This is a total political hatchet job being used to intimidate the press.

Lemon isn't the "press" anymore. he got fired by CNN. so what news agency is he reporting for now?


the "Don Lemon News"?? i can go to a protest and call myself a journalist. doesn't really make me one.


your first amendment argument got blown up ... by the law.


at best Lemon was a "non-journalist" observer to a crime. at worst he knew perfectly well it was a crime and did not report it (a crime) which makes him an accessory to a crime.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Lemon isn't the "press" anymore. he got fired by CNN. so what news agency is he reporting for now?

the "Don Lemon News"?? i can go to a protest and call myself a journalist. doesn't really make me one.

your first amendment argument got blown up ... by the law.

at best Lemon was a "non-journalist" observer to a crime. at worst he knew perfectly well it was a crime and did not report it (a crime) which makes him an accessory to a crime.

In the Internet age almost anyone can be a journalist.

I would surmise it has more to do with the qualifications, experience and the recent activity of said individual that defines a journalist.

I do know however that posting on eccie makes neither of us lawyers.

[ICU 812]

Lemon's supposed status as a journalist may not come into play.

The issue of free speech may not either.

As I pointed out above: There are federal statutes that Lemon and the others involved with this event can be charged with that do not rely on the First Amendment.

It is my view that the civil rights of the church goers were violated. However, violations of civil law could be the least of their legal problems.

There could be violations of federal criminal law, as well as civil rights.

[CPT Savajo]

Don Lemon getting arrested was the only way he would ever be on CNN again.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

I am hearing that federal law has says that if one has knowledge of a federal crime about to be committed or a criminal in progress . . .and does not inform the authorities . . . .that inaction is also a federal crime called "misprision of a felony" .

And yes, the First Amendment does apply directly to the government as in " . . .Congress shall make no law . . .". However, there is federal statute law regarding disrupting or impeding religious activities in or out of a place of worship.

It is likely that Lemon will be charged with something like that. IMoreover, i sounds as though some of the n on-protester church goers were prevented from leaving or moving about freely by the protesters. This could be construed as kidnapping, a serious feral crime.

All this could be far more serious than those folks thought it would be.

"misprision of a felony" is irrelevant at this point, as no charges of Misprision of a felony (18 U.S.C. § 4) have been filed.
A grand jury in Minnesota indicted Lemon and others, including independent journalist Georgia Fort, under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances law, known as the FACE Act, and another law commonly known as the Conspiracy Against Rights law.


That said...
Misprision of a felony (18 U.S.C. § 4) is a federal crime involving the active concealment of a known felony without participation in it, and failure to report it to authorities. It requires affirmative acts of concealment—not just silence—and carries penalties of up to three years in prison.
Simply knowing about a crime and not reporting it is generally not enough to constitute misprision; an active, affirmative step to hide the crime is necessary.

For your reading pleasure and enlightenment, the indictment
https://d3i6fh83elv35t.cloudfront.ne...25-LMP-DLM.pdf

[jan-w]

I think Don Lemon got what he wanted all along...Publicity. Who was talking about Don Lemon before this happened?

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

Lemon isn't the "press" anymore. he got fired by CNN. so what news agency is he reporting for now?


the "Don Lemon News"?? i can go to a protest and call myself a journalist. doesn't really make me one.


your first amendment argument got blown up ... by the law.


at best Lemon was a "non-journalist" observer to a crime. at worst he knew perfectly well it was a crime and did not report it (a crime) which makes him an accessory to a crime.

If a guy without a network can claim he has a network, Why can't a guy without news program call himself the news?

I mean the googly states as:

"Definition of press

The term press, in its most common legal and modern usage, refers to the collective body of organizations and individuals engaged in gathering, reporting, and disseminating news and public information to a wide audience.
"

I have not followed anything on the guy since. Don't even know him except by maggie name dropping.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Yeah. Actions have consequences.

As i've always stated: You can be arrested for anything under the sun. Making it stick in a court of law is another story.

Idk why he was arrested. Maybe he'll be laughing like Comey did when his day in court came and went.

Not really. Police have to establish Probable Cause of a crime being committed or about to be committed. Although cases do get thrown out of court Police Departments don't want to blatantly make false arrests.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

Yeah. Actions have consequences.

As i've always stated: You can be arrested for anything under the sun. Making it stick in a court of law is another story.

Idk why he was arrested. Maybe he'll be laughing like Comey did when his day in court came and went.

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Not really. Police have to establish Probable Cause of a crime being committed or about to be committed. Although cases do get thrown out of court Police Departments don't want to blatantly make false arrests.

I ain't about to go against the words of Sol Wachtler. Especially since he has an established record for knowlege of the Law. I'd venture he knows more about the field than you and most everyone here.

[jcv521]

I am just hoping that more “has been hacks” do not do a copycat just to get their names mentioned again!

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by jcv521

I am just hoping that more “has been hacks” do not do a copycat just to get their names mentioned again!

If you mean protesters should avoid protesting in churches? Then I agree with you.

If you mean journalists filming protests and interviewing people, i.e. reporting, then I hope they continue.

[ICU 812]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

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If you mean journalists filming protests and interviewing people, i.e. reporting, then I hope they continue.

If it can be shown that Lemon was only behaving like a neutral Journalist, he will be found innocent of all charges. That is s it should be.

However, It is my feeling that he was more involved than that. . . .we will just have to wait and see how the legal system works through it all.

[Yssup Rider]

Yet he never should have been charged or otherwise fucked with by Trump’s thugs in the first place.