Obama gave classified information on aliens

[RX792P]

No, not those from Mexico and elsewhere...those from Alpha Centauri.

TRUMP KNOWS!

"Well, he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that,"

"I don't know if they're real or not," he said. "I can tell you he gave classified information. He's not supposed to be doing that. He made a big mistake. He took it out of classified information."

What, Area 51 not holding aliens and not having a mega underground installation with alien technology is classified?

Thank God Trump is willing to save Obama

"I may get him out of trouble by declassifying."

[rooster]

Faak. Next thing ya know he will be admitting we did not land on the moon...and that Omar attacked herself...

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[RX792P]

Originally Posted by rooster

Faak. Next thing ya know he will be admitting we did not land on the moon...and that Omar attacked herself...

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You know, they tried to get Steven Spielberg to do the faked moon landing...but he insisted on shooting on location...


It's all good...Trump just discovered he can use this as another distraction...

"Based on the tremendous interest shown, I will be directing the Secretary of War, and other relevant Departments and Agencies, to begin the process of identifying and releasing Government files related to alien and extraterrestrial life, unidentified aerial phenomena (UAP), and unidentified flying objects (UFOs), and any and all other information connected to these highly complex, but extremely interesting and important, matters," Trump wrote on Truth Social. "GOD BLESS AMERICA!"

[Precious_b]

One of my favourite Brent Spiner roles.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by rooster

Faak. Next thing ya know he will be admitting we did not land on the moon...and that Omar attacked herself...

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But will he admit hi bladed himself in the ear?

[Jacuzzme]

I think it’s a safe assumption that there’s life all over the universe, the chance that earth is the only planet in an estimated 7x10^25 to have developed life is so small that it’s, for all intents and purposes, nonexistent.

Obonga and Trump are both full of shit on this one because, if you believe in Einstein’s calculations, the distances are just too far for one civilization to communicate with, or even become aware of another in any meaningful way. If humans were able to board our current fastest spacecraft (they can’t and won’t) which only achieves about .005% of light speed, It’d take 80,000 years just to reach the nearest star.

These physics don’t apply to just us. They’re hard and fast and don’t change for an alien species. These distances are just too great, so much so that our human brains can’t even comprehend them. We evolved to understand how far a few, or few hundred, miles is, not light years or astronomical units. It’s these distances that will prevent us from ever contacting alien life, which is most likely plentiful.

[rooster]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I think it’s a safe assumption that there’s life all over the universe...

Enrico Fermi would both agree and disagree with what you say.

The "Fermi Paradox" is showing its age in some ways. But I have become very interested in two ideas recently:

The first is an older one: as evidenced by our current trajectory, any advanced civilization will likely kill itself after a few thousand years, more or less. Long before we can discover them or they will discover us.

The second...which I find absolutely fascinating...has to do with the theories around "multiverses."

There are theories that contain estimates that there are somewhere on the order of 10^61 alternate universes out there, each with its own unique conditions, rules, physical properties, etc. And that this is the only one with all of them that lined up in just such a way as to produce us. Us and no one else. No one.

To support that idea, I would point out that there are many "unique" situations that led to our existence.

Here are two that are really important and easy to understand:

One is that it is VERY unusual for a planet the size of Earth to have a moon that is the size of our moon. VERY unusual. And the tidal effects of the moon alone, on both sea and land, are major driving forces in the way life has evolved on this planet.

The second is the location of Jupiter. Also very unusual. Many extra-solar systems that we have discovered contain Jovia-sized planets. They seem to be very common. What is NOT common with ours is its location.

In most of these other systems, these huge planets orbit much closer to their stars. Our Jupiter most likely started out there. But then it "migrated" to its current position, out beyond Mars. And the result of that is that it serves as a massive "vacuum cleaner"...a "shield" that gobbles up many of the comets and other inward-bound objects and prevents them from colliding with us. The result has been a massive decrease in the frequency of planetary extinction-level events caused by these objects. We are living in unusually quiet times, in those terms.

I love this shit.

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[rooster]

Originally Posted by Jacuzzme

I think it’s a safe assumption that there’s life all over the universe....

One of the other factors that you are not considering is an idea that was rubbed in my face by a physicist many years ago. I was making the same argument...that the distances are too vast, the time-scales too huge.

He looked at me and said "you are only thinking in 4 dimensions" and literally walked away.

I don't have enough of a background in cosmology and advanced mathematics to be able to even talk about that (which is probably why he walked away, before I bothered him for an explanation that I would likely not understand). But it sure got me thinking.

You and I only understand Newton's universe, when it comes down to it. Einstein's, Planck's, Pauli's, Bohr's...not so much.

And as they say: the universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it is stranger than we CAN imagine."

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