Is This Guy Talking About YOU??

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

...Why do I have to ask these questions on an anonymous internet forum rather than getting answers from the actual government?

Other threads may help in the seeing the solution...

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Blinded by the light

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Other threads may help in the seeing the solution...

I could say the same thing. The republicans are blinded by faith in their cult leader.

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

posts seem to be a long way from "this guy talking about....you"

The OP is about “Defeatism”. In the opinion piece in the OP post the author argues that opposing the Trump administration is equal to being a defeatist.

This thread is just another thinly veiled argument that TDS is affecting large swaths of the public.

I would argue the opposite view point. The word “Idolatry” comes to mind. The absolute faith in the current administration and its cult leader without regard to reason, logic, or common sense.

If you want the American people to support your policies then you must convince them of their efficacy. I don’t see a lot of effort to do that. Unless you want to count Kristi Noem’s 220 million dollar advertising campaign.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

This thread is just another thinly veiled argument that TDS is affecting large swaths of the public.

I would argue the opposite view point. The word “Idolatry” comes to mind. The absolute faith in the current administration and its cult leader without regard to reason, logic, or common sense.

Hey txdot, if you admit not all Trump voters belong to a cult, I will concede not all trump critics have TDS.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by lustylad

Hey txdot, if you admit not all Trump voters belong to a cult, I will concede not all trump critics have TDS.

I completely agree. These are stereotypes on both sides that are inflated by both social media and the mainstream media.

[Lantern2814]

Originally Posted by pxmcc

ya, just no..

Iran under Obama: 3.67% enrichment..

Iran under Trump: 60% enrichment..

the facts speak for themselves.

And who was it who originally allowed a terrorist state to start enrichment again? Here's a clue, it was Obama. The facts indeed speak for themselves. And they don't back you up.

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by Lantern2814

And who was it who originally allowed a terrorist state to start enrichment again? Here's a clue, it was Obama. The facts indeed speak for themselves. And they don't back you up.

You’ll have to explain the logic behind this claim. How exactly did Obama “allow” a sovereign country to start enriching uranium?

Especially while dealing with the 2008 mortgage meltdown, two unfunded wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the rise of ISIS, the capture of Bin Laden, the Arab Spring, an intransigent congress under Paul Ryan, a civil war in Syria and the invasion of Crimea by Russia.

I could go on but the Iranian nuclear deal kept the region stabilized and uranium enrichment down until Trump blew up the deal during his first term.

Oh and lest I forget massive deportation along our borders.

[lustylad]

Originally Posted by txdot-guy

...the Iranian nuclear deal kept the region stabilized and uranium enrichment down until Trump blew up the deal during his first term.

The JCPOA was signed in 2015 and took effect in Jan. 2016 which was Obama's last year in office. In the years prior to the deal, Iran enriched a minimum of 200 kg of uranium to 20%.

You must be joking when you say the JCPOA "kept the region stabilized". It did precisely the opposite. Here is a comment I made 7 years ago:

Originally Posted by lustylad

Odumbo's big "achievement", the P5+1 nuclear deal, was struck in April 2015.

In July 2015, Putin met secretly with the leader of the Iranian Quds, Qasem Suleimani, in violation of a UN travel ban.

In Sept. 2015, Russia launched its military intervention to help prop up Bashir Assad in Syria, deploying weapons and advisory units alongside Iranian and Hezbollah militias already fighting on Assad's behalf.

Odumbo was in no position to object. After all, Putin had gone along with the nuclear deal, which odumbo so eagerly sought. That rewarded Iran's bad behavior and made it look ok for people to get in bed with the world's leading state sponsor of terror. Putin also claimed he was sending Russian planes and advisers into Syria to fight ISIS, a clever lie that made it even harder for Western governments to protest. In the end, Putin got to show everyone how Russia can be relied upon to stand by its allies, unlike the US (which pulled the rug out from under Egypt's Mubarak during the Arab Spring uprising).

Bottom line - Odumbo and Kerry were badly and embarrassingly outplayed. Far from being an achievement, the nuclear deal emboldened and flashed a green light for the Russians and Iranians to expand their influence aggressively throughout the Middle East.

Ever wonder how long is the historical list of terrorist attacks spawned by Iran? Check out the link below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism

[txdot-guy]

Originally Posted by lustylad

The JCPOA was signed in 2015 and took effect in Jan. 2016 which was Obama's last year in office. In the years prior to the deal, Iran enriched a minimum of 200 kg of uranium to 20%.

You must be joking when you say the JCPOA "kept the region stabilized". It did precisely the opposite. Here is a comment I made 7 years ago:

I stick by my original statement. Negotiations with Iran kept the region stabilized while the US and its partners dealt with other issues like the Syrian Civil war and ISIL / ISIS militants. The original agreement was signed in 2013 and finalized in 2015.

From the wiki pages.
Formal negotiations began with the adoption of the Joint Plan of Action, an interim agreement signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in November 2013. Iran and the P5+1 countries engaged in negotiations for the following 20 months and, in April 2015, agreed on a framework, which later led to JCPOA, along with a Roadmap Agreement between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

On 24 November 2013, the Joint Plan of Action (برنامه اقدام مشترک), also known as the Geneva interim agreement (Persian: توافق هستهای ژنو), was a pact signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in Geneva, Switzerland. It consists of a short-term freeze of portions of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for decreased economic sanctions on Iran, as the countries work towards a long-term agreement. It represented the first formal agreement between the United States and Iran in 34 years. Implementation of the agreement began 20 January 2014.

The Joint Plan of Action and the negotiations under it which followed eventually led to an April 2015 framework agreement and then a July 2015 final agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.