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Old 04-07-2026, 11:23 AM   #31
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...Why do I have to ask these questions on an anonymous internet forum rather than getting answers from the actual government?
Other threads may help in the seeing the solution...
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Old 04-07-2026, 11:34 AM   #32
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I could say the same thing. The republicans are blinded by faith in their cult leader.

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posts seem to be a long way from "this guy talking about....you"
The OP is about “Defeatism”. In the opinion piece in the OP post the author argues that opposing the Trump administration is equal to being a defeatist.

This thread is just another thinly veiled argument that TDS is affecting large swaths of the public.

I would argue the opposite view point. The word “Idolatry” comes to mind. The absolute faith in the current administration and its cult leader without regard to reason, logic, or common sense.

If you want the American people to support your policies then you must convince them of their efficacy. I don’t see a lot of effort to do that. Unless you want to count Kristi Noem’s 220 million dollar advertising campaign.
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This thread is just another thinly veiled argument that TDS is affecting large swaths of the public.

I would argue the opposite view point. The word “Idolatry” comes to mind. The absolute faith in the current administration and its cult leader without regard to reason, logic, or common sense.
Hey txdot, if you admit not all Trump voters belong to a cult, I will concede not all trump critics have TDS.
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Hey txdot, if you admit not all Trump voters belong to a cult, I will concede not all trump critics have TDS.
I completely agree. These are stereotypes on both sides that are inflated by both social media and the mainstream media.
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Old 04-08-2026, 03:36 PM   #36
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ya, just no..

Iran under Obama: 3.67% enrichment..

Iran under Trump: 60% enrichment..

the facts speak for themselves.
And who was it who originally allowed a terrorist state to start enrichment again? Here's a clue, it was Obama. The facts indeed speak for themselves. And they don't back you up.
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And who was it who originally allowed a terrorist state to start enrichment again? Here's a clue, it was Obama. The facts indeed speak for themselves. And they don't back you up.
You’ll have to explain the logic behind this claim. How exactly did Obama “allow” a sovereign country to start enriching uranium?

Especially while dealing with the 2008 mortgage meltdown, two unfunded wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the rise of ISIS, the capture of Bin Laden, the Arab Spring, an intransigent congress under Paul Ryan, a civil war in Syria and the invasion of Crimea by Russia.

I could go on but the Iranian nuclear deal kept the region stabilized and uranium enrichment down until Trump blew up the deal during his first term.

Oh and lest I forget massive deportation along our borders.
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...the Iranian nuclear deal kept the region stabilized and uranium enrichment down until Trump blew up the deal during his first term.
The JCPOA was signed in 2015 and took effect in Jan. 2016 which was Obama's last year in office. In the years prior to the deal, Iran enriched a minimum of 200 kg of uranium to 20%.

You must be joking when you say the JCPOA "kept the region stabilized". It did precisely the opposite. Here is a comment I made 7 years ago:


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Odumbo's big "achievement", the P5+1 nuclear deal, was struck in April 2015.

In July 2015, Putin met secretly with the leader of the Iranian Quds, Qasem Suleimani, in violation of a UN travel ban.

In Sept. 2015, Russia launched its military intervention to help prop up Bashir Assad in Syria, deploying weapons and advisory units alongside Iranian and Hezbollah militias already fighting on Assad's behalf.

Odumbo was in no position to object. After all, Putin had gone along with the nuclear deal, which odumbo so eagerly sought. That rewarded Iran's bad behavior and made it look ok for people to get in bed with the world's leading state sponsor of terror. Putin also claimed he was sending Russian planes and advisers into Syria to fight ISIS, a clever lie that made it even harder for Western governments to protest. In the end, Putin got to show everyone how Russia can be relied upon to stand by its allies, unlike the US (which pulled the rug out from under Egypt's Mubarak during the Arab Spring uprising).

Bottom line - Odumbo and Kerry were badly and embarrassingly outplayed. Far from being an achievement, the nuclear deal emboldened and flashed a green light for the Russians and Iranians to expand their influence aggressively throughout the Middle East.

Ever wonder how long is the historical list of terrorist attacks spawned by Iran? Check out the link below.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iran_a...ored_terrorism
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The JCPOA was signed in 2015 and took effect in Jan. 2016 which was Obama's last year in office. In the years prior to the deal, Iran enriched a minimum of 200 kg of uranium to 20%.

You must be joking when you say the JCPOA "kept the region stabilized". It did precisely the opposite. Here is a comment I made 7 years ago:
I stick by my original statement. Negotiations with Iran kept the region stabilized while the US and its partners dealt with other issues like the Syrian Civil war and ISIL / ISIS militants. The original agreement was signed in 2013 and finalized in 2015.

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Formal negotiations began with the adoption of the Joint Plan of Action, an interim agreement signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in November 2013. Iran and the P5+1 countries engaged in negotiations for the following 20 months and, in April 2015, agreed on a framework, which later led to JCPOA, along with a Roadmap Agreement between Iran and the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).

On 24 November 2013, the Joint Plan of Action (برنامه اقدام مشترک), also known as the Geneva interim agreement (Persian: توافق هستهای ژنو), was a pact signed between Iran and the P5+1 countries in Geneva, Switzerland. It consists of a short-term freeze of portions of Iran's nuclear program in exchange for decreased economic sanctions on Iran, as the countries work towards a long-term agreement. It represented the first formal agreement between the United States and Iran in 34 years. Implementation of the agreement began 20 January 2014.

The Joint Plan of Action and the negotiations under it which followed eventually led to an April 2015 framework agreement and then a July 2015 final agreement, the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action.
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Imagine if the person in charge was the candidate that you had voted for... You would ask similar and listen to several minutes of Word Salad, slathered in Gobbledy-Gook, the sign language interpreter would have resigned with PTSD, you would have lost 3-4 IQ points and you would still have no clue what heck-fire the answer was.
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Don't know.

Have to listen to him to answer that.

Seeing I haven't read this thread, is there a show of hands here?
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Lest we forget...

Here's Democrat Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer back in 2015 explaining why he opposed the JCPOA negotiated by Obama:



I have spent the last three weeks.... carefully studying the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, reading and re-reading the agreement and its annexes, questioning dozens of proponents and opponents, and seeking answers to questions that go beyond the text of the agreement but will have real consequences that must be considered...

... there are serious weaknesses in the agreement. First, inspections are not “anywhere, anytime”; the 24-day delay before we can inspect is troubling. While inspectors would likely be able to detect radioactive isotopes at a site after 24 days, that delay would enable Iran to escape detection of any illicit building and improving of possible military dimensions (PMD) – the tools that go into building a bomb but don’t emit radioactivity.

Furthermore, even when we detect radioactivity at a site where Iran is illicitly advancing its bomb-making capability, the 24-day delay would hinder our ability to determine precisely what was being done at that site.

Even more troubling is the fact that the U.S. cannot demand inspections unilaterally. By requiring the majority of the 8-member Joint Commission, and assuming that China, Russia, and Iran will not cooperate, inspections would require the votes of all three European members of the P5+1 as well as the EU representative. It is reasonable to fear that, once the Europeans become entangled in lucrative economic relations with Iran, they may well be inclined not to rock the boat by voting to allow inspections...

Second, we must evaluate how this deal would restrict Iran’s nuclear development after ten years.

Supporters argue that after ten years, a future President would be in no weaker a position than we are today to prevent Iran from racing to the bomb. That argument discounts the current sanctions regime. After fifteen years of relief from sanctions, Iran would be stronger financially and better able to advance a robust nuclear program. Even more importantly, the agreement would allow Iran, after ten to fifteen years, to be a nuclear threshold state with the blessing of the world community. Iran would have a green light to be as close, if not closer to possessing a nuclear weapon than it is today. And the ability to thwart Iran if it is intent on becoming a nuclear power would have less moral and economic force.

If Iran’s true intent is to get a nuclear weapon, under this agreement, it must simply exercise patience. After ten years, it can be very close to achieving that goal, and, unlike its current unsanctioned pursuit of a nuclear weapon, Iran’s nuclear program will be codified in an agreement signed by the United States and other nations. To me, after ten years, if Iran is the same nation as it is today, we will be worse off with this agreement than without it.

In addition, we must consider the non-nuclear elements of the agreement. This aspect of the deal gives me the most pause. For years, Iran has used military force and terrorism to expand its influence in the Middle East, actively supporting military or terrorist actions in Israel, Syria, Lebanon, Yemen, Iraq, and Gaza. That is why the U.S. has labeled Iran as one of only three nations in the world who are “state sponsors of terrorism.” Under this agreement, Iran would receive at least $50 billion dollars in the near future and would undoubtedly use some of that money to redouble its efforts to create even more trouble in the Middle East, and, perhaps, beyond...

... the hardliners can use the freed-up funds to build an ICBM on their own as soon as sanctions are lifted (and then augment their ICBM capabilities in 8 years after the ban on importing ballistic weaponry is lifted), threatening the United States. Restrictions should have been put in place limiting how Iran could use its new resources...

... When it comes to the non-nuclear aspects of the deal, I think there is a strong case that we are better off without an agreement than with one.

... if one feels that Iranian leaders will not moderate and their unstated but very real goal is to get relief from the onerous sanctions, while still retaining their nuclear ambitions and their ability to increase belligerent activities in the Middle East and elsewhere, then one should conclude that it would be better not to approve this agreement.

To me, the very real risk that Iran will not moderate and will, instead, use the agreement to pursue its nefarious goals is too great.

Therefore, I will vote to disapprove the agreement, not because I believe war is a viable or desirable option, nor to challenge the path of diplomacy. It is because I believe Iran will not change, and under this agreement it will be able to achieve its dual goals of eliminating sanctions while ultimately retaining its nuclear and non-nuclear power...

For all of these reasons, I believe the vote to disapprove is the right one.

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