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		|  03-16-2011, 11:52 PM | #1 |  
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			I recently have been asked by three seperate clients for time off the clock. I simply don't understand why anyone who participates in the hobby would think that's ok. I have heard from other providers that this happens often. 
When does a hobbyist think it's ok to ask a provider out on an uncompensated date?
  
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		|  03-17-2011, 04:41 AM | #2 |  
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			Different strokes for different folks. 
 I have found that some ladies do take a strictly business like approach in the P4P arena while others have accepted an invite for a bite to eat after a session or have said - this would of course be ladies that someone sees often -  "this ones on me" for an event like a birthday.
 
 The key is it is up to the lady to accept or decline going out to eat and certainly up to her to offer a session for a discount or for free. No harm in a gent asking if a session finishes and it is dinner time if she would like to have dinner ..... as long as A. the gent can accept a polite no and move on and B. the gent does not start taking it for granted.
 
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		|  03-17-2011, 05:52 AM | #3 |  
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					Originally Posted by discreetgent  Different strokes for different folks. 
 I have found that some ladies do take a strictly business like approach in the P4P arena while others have accepted an invite for a bite to eat after a session or have said - this would of course be ladies that someone sees often -  "this ones on me" for an event like a birthday.
 
 The key is it is up to the lady to accept or decline going out to eat and certainly up to her to offer a session for a discount or for free. No harm in a gent asking if a session finishes and it is dinner time if she would like to have dinner ..... as long as A. the gent can accept a polite no and move on and B. the gent does not start taking it for granted.
 
 My 2 cents.
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Make it 4 cents. Almost all the ladies I've seen have shared "off-the-clock" time with me - coffee, drinks, lunch, dinner, etc. - mostly because we like each other and enjoy the company. Makes the BCD experience way better!! Can't tell you when I've ask a lady to lunch or dinner and was quoted a rate. The answer was either yes or no....ladies' choice....I don't think the invitation is meant to be insulting.
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		|  03-17-2011, 08:13 AM | #4 |  
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			One lady invited me to have coffee with her.  I assumed it was on the clock.
 @AL - Were they clear about "off the clock" or were hey asking about a "clock free" date?  Some ladies do offer that.
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		|  03-17-2011, 08:17 AM | #5 |  
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			I have very few people I will see "off the clock". We'll go out to dinner, go to the movies, to the park or play xbox LOL. I ONLY do this if I enjoy being around him. It's not something that I do with everyone. For everyone else, there is a small fee for social outings. That's just how it is.
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		|  03-17-2011, 10:36 AM | #6 |  
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	Yea but you should keep that to yourself or you might give the impression to some poor chap(s) that you do not like him/themQuote: 
	
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					Originally Posted by Naomi4u  I have very few people I will see "off the clock". We'll go out to dinner, go to the movies, to the park or play xbox LOL. I ONLY do this if I enjoy being around him. It's not something that I do with everyone. For everyone else, there is a small fee for social outings. That's just how it is. |  !   
[quote=Alex Lieberman;1121787]I recently have been asked by three seperate clients for time off the clock. I simply don't understand why anyone who participates in the hobby would think that's ok. I have heard from other providers that this happens often.
  
When does a hobbyist think it's ok to ask a provider out on an uncompensated date?
  
And how do other providers deal with this?
 
 
 
 
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It is just a marketing tool that some ladies have used to lower their rates without actually say that they are lowering their rates. |  
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		|  03-17-2011, 10:45 AM | #7 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  Yea but you should keep that to yourself or you might give the impression to some poor chap(s) that you do not like him/them!  |  
Oh please. They can think what they want. Better to be honest right?
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		|  03-17-2011, 10:47 AM | #8 |  
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				 You gotta at least act like ya like'em! 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Naomi4u  Oh please. They can think what they want. Better to be honest right? |  
Let's go have a drink and talk about this....I'll buy the first 'round!   |  
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		|  03-17-2011, 10:51 AM | #9 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  Let's go have a drink and talk about this....I'll buy the first 'round!  |    
I'm sure your dear friend Wayward will have plenty to share  
with you soon. We're meeting up for drinks "off the clock" during my visit. 
I like him   . See how that works?
 
Just to be clear, seeing someone "off the clock" doesn't involve bcd activities.
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		|  03-17-2011, 10:55 AM | #10 |  
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			I offer a Clock Free option.  It is popular amongst a certain, discriminating cross-section of gentlemen.  I actually prefer it for two reasons.  One, in a perfect world there is a certain amount I want to make per day, and my Clock Free option fee is that amount.  And two, I like to get to know someone.  I find that my friends that want the Clock Free option send me a lovely introduction email.  We exchange a few thoughtful emails before we actually meet the first time.   They have also read my website.  They show up at my hideaway with a nice little white wine or we drink some bubbly I have chilled.  We nibble on fruit.  Each other.  It’s fun.  A good time is had by all.  I have never felt cheated out of my time; and since, for the most part, they are returning friends, I don’t think they felt cheated either.  
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		|  03-17-2011, 11:34 AM | #11 |  
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					Originally Posted by Naomi4u  I have very few people I will see "off the clock". We'll go out to dinner, go to the movies, to the park or play xbox LOL. I ONLY do this if I enjoy being around him. It's not something that I do with everyone. For everyone else, there is a small fee for social outings. That's just how it is. |  
...AND everything is known to all up front....right?!? AND there are no surprises....right?!?
  
We'll have to talk more about this....right?!?
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		|  03-17-2011, 11:38 AM | #12 |  
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					Originally Posted by Ed Highlight  ...AND everything is known to all up front....right?!? AND there are no surprises....right?!?
 We'll have to talk more about this....right?!?
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		|  03-17-2011, 12:12 PM | #13 |  
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					Originally Posted by WTF  Let's go have a drink and talk about this....I'll buy the first 'round!  |  
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I'm sure your dear friend Wayward will have plenty to share  
with you soon. We're meeting up for drinks "off the clock" during my visit. 
I like him   . See how that works?
 
Just to be clear, seeing someone "off the clock" doesn't involve bcd activities. |  
Wait just a minute then how are you going to make up for that terrible bbbj?
 
Back on topic:
 
If you have to ask then the answer is no. Of course each diamond (stolen from RK) gets to choose how she spends her time. That some of the 'women we love' are kind and generous in this regard is a wonderful thing, but it should never be expected.
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		|  03-17-2011, 12:20 PM | #14 |  
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					Originally Posted by Wayward  Wait just a minute then how are you going to make up for that terrible bbbj? |   It's ok I set myself up for that one.
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		|  03-17-2011, 12:32 PM | #15 |  
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				 You ever had a bad day at the beach, the slopes? 
 
			
			
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					Originally Posted by Wayward   terrible bbbj?
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There is no such thing....
  
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