Is the customer (client) always right?

[Sir Lancehernot]

We've all heard the adage that the customer is always right. I think we'd all agree that that can be qualified with, "within reason."

I'm curious as to what "within reason" might mean to different people in the P4P area, and when a provider might legitimately object to either a request, or to an activity initiated without prior permission or discussion. After all, providers have things they like to do, and things they don't like to, or simply won't, do, too.

Some are pretty obvious, and generally fall into the category of activities that the provider believes poses a risk to her health, safety or reputation: e.g., BBFS, CIM, Greek, TUMA, the glazed-donut look, restraints.

But what about other things, things that she may not particularly enjoy, but that pose no significant risk -- things that a client can't find opportunities for in the "real" world, so he's hoping to find in a P4P partner.

What if I want to slap her butt while doing her doggie, but she doesn't like being slapped? Ditto hair pulling. How about pulling her head toward me in the middle of a blowjob, something she might object to if her uvula is less than six inches from her lips? Or suppose I want her to grab her ankles while her torso rests on a sofa arm while she's giving me head, or I want her to lie down on the bed, face up, head hanging off the side, and fuck her mouth? Slapping her face with my dick? I could probably think of a lot more, but you get the idea.

So, as a client, what requests should you have a right to expect a provider to honor, and what requests should she be able to refuse? And, for things she doesn't particularly care for, should she allow her displeasure to show, to let the client know she's not terribly thrilled about it?

I suppose this could be addressed with a pre-coital conversation, but it does seem a bit awkward to have such a discussion, wherein you'd agree to do A, B, and C, but not X, Y, and Z.

[oldmarine]

IMO a provider has a right to refuse any request. If she does not want/like to do something then it is her right to refuse and the refusal should be honored. P4P does not entitle a client to anything he wants.

If a provider does not like something but agrees to do it anyway then she should at least pretend to enjoy it. It is a business and showing disgust or displeasure should be avoided.

That should offend almost everyone, lol.

[lisa.lisa0302]

Why would you try to force things the provider doesn't do. Period. I wouldn't suggest holding her head down, if she doesn't like it, she may just bite the hell out of you.

I don't mind some slapping on my ass, but not too hard. I don't see where the customer is right to continue slapping to hard. Especially if leave marks.

I think some of the gents expectations are so high, you guys may have a list walking in and sadly not of us are into the same thing. And you feel like you didn't get the best service.

I always say treat them right and you never know what pleasant surprises she has in store for you next time.

[bigmarv]

Originally Posted by Sir Lancehernot

So, as a client, what requests should you have a right to expect a provider to honor, and what requests should she be able to refuse? And, for things she doesn't particularly care for, should she allow her displeasure to show, to let the client know she's not terribly thrilled about it?

My personal opinion is to always honor the boundries of the provider. If she has a website, I'd suggest a potential client to read it thoroughly as to what services she provides. Treat the ladies with respect and they may offer you more on your next visit.

[txcwby6]

No means no. It's her body and if a Hobbyist finds it difficult to respect the limits she...imposes... demands...requests, whatever then he needs to find one (Provider) that doesn't have any limits, restrictions, dignity or desire to live.

[Sudzny]

YEah, this isn't burger king we're talking about, you don't always get to have it your way. "The customer is always right" may apply in the retail environment, but this is one service area where it does not carry over. I don't know about everyone, btu I personally find it much less enjoyable if the provider is obviously not enjoying herself with somethign I do. This is also part of the reason I like to pre-book my appointments and get to know the provider a bit either via IM or e-mail to understand what she is into and make sure we are compatible.

[Guest100513-2]

While I don't like to hear "Hell no you are not sticking that up my ass", I respect any boundaries a lady may have. It just isn't any fun forcing a woman to do things she doesn't like.

If you don't like the menu, go somewhere else, there is quite a selection here in Dallas. At least until they are all lured away to Houston.

[shizzle10]

Check the provider's menu beforehand

[Fiero]

There are plenty of ways to find out what a lady is comfortable with before you go so that you have a reasonable sense of things. I don't have the right to expect anything...and IMO she can refuse anything. Period. Thinking she was doing something that was repulsive or painful (in a bad way...lol) to her is really something I would hate to be a part of.

[hotlips_houlihan]

I always make sure the client knows what my boundaries are before we begin. That way there is no miscommunication, no "oops I didn't know" and no interruption in the fun. It also gives him a chance to exit stage left should he feel he cannot/will not or does not wish to stay within said boundaries. You would be amazed at the number of clients who feel that since he is paying, he should be able to do as he pleases. Needless to say, those are the ones I do not get along with lol.

So no, the customer is not always right-not even in retail

Meg

[DukeCooper]

Originally Posted by hotlips_houlihan

the number of clients who feel that since he is paying, he should be able to do as he pleases.

Those people just have a totally wrong view of how things work.

[OldGrump]

I think what two consenting adults do in privacy is their own business. The key word is CONSENTING. Clear up your desires before making an appointment.

[Dharma]

If you go to a quiky lube car place where they advertise oil changes and brakes, how stupid are you to get pissed when they won't also do an alignment on your car? If that's not a service they provide, don't force them to "manage". Just get your brakes done and go someplace else.

I am occasionally asked to make exceptions. If a client wants services that I don't provide, I don't get mad or pissy, I'm happy to refer him to someone else. There's more than one way to keep a client happy.

For the providers who are afraid that if they say "no" they'll lose the client, don't be. I have had clients who wanted services I don't provide. I'm always polite and just let them know then I refer them to someone else. They might not come back but they'll remember my professionalism and the effort I went through to make them happy. It's almost always gotten me referrals and my business has never suffered because of it.

[pyramider]

Whoever coined the term "the customer is always right" never worked with the general public. The customer is not always right, but is always the customer.

If a provider does not want to engage in any activity then no means no. No ifs, ands, of buts . . .

[Bestman200600]

Each woman is different. You have to respect their limits and treat them well if you want to have the best time.