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		|  08-18-2025, 04:27 PM | #16 |  
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			No it’s a promise that will never be fulfilled by Putin, if he said he would agree to it at all.  Putin also wants land he doesn’t occupy as a part of the deal. And he wants Ukraine to give up land they occupy or that’s in dispute.
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		|  08-18-2025, 06:12 PM | #17 |  
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“PLEASE LET PUTIN WIN”
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		|  08-18-2025, 09:18 PM | #18 |  
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					Originally Posted by 1blackman1  You realize the other European leaders and the head of NATO showed up because they need to educate Trump and deprogram him from his meeting with Putin where he came out spouting Russian propaganda. They know Trump let Putin steamroll him after Putin’s short press speech. |  
... Do YOU realise that those Foreign leaders you mention 
Do Not see it your way?
 
Ye Christ! ... Whining and Complainin' - ever hour, 
The whine is bitter and the grapes are sour! ...    
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		|  08-19-2025, 12:08 AM | #19 |  
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			Zelensky may be more powerful than Trump. He can get all those mentioned to show up at a meeting within 24 hours.
 Trump ?  He is relegated to whining on Truth Social...which he owns.
 
 To compare, there was a pro wrestler named Vern Gagne who never lost a match. He owned the company too.
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		|  08-19-2025, 12:22 AM | #20 |  
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					Originally Posted by VitaMan  Zelensky may be more powerful than Trump. He can get all those mentioned to show up at a meeting within 24 hours.
 Trump ?  He is relegated to whining on Truth Social...which he owns.
 
 To compare, there was a pro wrestler named Vern Gagne who never lost a match. He owned the company too.
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Zelensky is a pipsqueak and has no leverage over anyone. not Putin and certainly not Trump. Trump is this clown's only hope to remain alive. 
 
and Gagne did not go undefeated as a wrestler regardless of forming the AWA
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		|  08-19-2025, 04:08 AM | #21 |  
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					Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid  Zelensky is a pipsqueak and has no leverage over anyone. not Putin and certainly not Trump. Trump is this clown's only hope to remain alive.  |  
Trump loves the uneducated.  You’re living proof.
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		|  08-19-2025, 07:20 AM | #22 |  
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					Originally Posted by Salty Again  ... Do YOU realise that those Foreign leaders you mention 
Do Not see it your way?
 
Ye Christ! ... Whining and Complainin' - ever hour, 
The whine is bitter and the grapes are sour! ...    
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I’m sure you didn’t watch anything that was actually said. I guess it’s more reading Revolver for you. They went in and said exactly the opposite of what you think. Your ignorance about this is astounding yet unsurprising considering where you get your information. Maybe you’d be well served to actually watch the meeting and listen to what they European leaders said and the implication thereof rather than read pro Trump and Putin propaganda websites and rags. I’ll even be happy to translate for you since it’s clear English isn’t your first language.
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		|  08-19-2025, 08:06 AM | #23 |  
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			What I heard was World Leaders praising President Trump’s leadership on the World Stage.
 In actual interviews, not what the Liberal Main Stream Media tells you they said.
 
 All of these World Leaders have realized that much of the Main Stream Media is permeated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Regardless of the successes, the are programmed to defy it.
 
 They despise the man to the extent that they would rather see failure than admit he knows exactly what he is doing.
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		|  08-19-2025, 08:41 AM | #24 |  
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			Jacky, the "liberal media" didn't only write to share the information with the public, it was on fucking camera for all to see and hear! Specifically, when dumb dumb was patting himself on the back saying that he ended 6 wars without a ceasefire (Trump knows Putin isn't agreeing to that) and didn't think one was necessary, then the European dignitaries at the table had to explain to the geezer dipshit in Chief that a ceasefire was necessary to immediately stop the killing while still negotiating with Putin.
 Of course they are going to praise Trump, Jacky. Do you think they don't have TV in Europe? Every single one of them saw what happened to Zelensky for not kissing the ring back in February. Everybody knows that you praise children when they behave well, even if that child is 79 years old.
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		|  08-19-2025, 08:53 AM | #25 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jacky S  What I heard was World Leaders praising President Trump’s leadership on the World Stage.
 In actual interviews, not what the Liberal Main Stream Media tells you they said.
 
 All of these World Leaders have realized that much of the Main Stream Media is permeated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Regardless of the successes, the are programmed to defy it.
 
 They despise the man to the extent that they would rather see failure than admit he knows exactly what he is doing.
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Wrong again Jacko, sure they said nice things about him because that’s how you get him to listen to the other stuff you need him to understand. Ceasefire has Lucas pointed out, they had to educate him on the necessity of ceasefires in order to attain a peace agreement. They also went on to explain how security guarantees actually work in practice which it was clear Trump failed to understand. If you actually listened to what they said vs what Fox tells you, you’d see that they gave him praise to soften him up then said what he teally needed to know since he clearly is in over his head. 
 
Trump doesn’t know what he’s doing. The idiot actually said on a hot kic “Putin wants to make a peace deal FOR ME”. Sure that’s it Dummy Trump. If Trump had the slightest clue what he was doing, he’d have told Putin that he's willing to hurt China (India's trade with the US is insignificant in the big scheme of things) even it hurts the US a bit to sink the Russian economy and stop the war. IF Putin took him serious a ceasefire and some peace could be attained. As it is, Putin won their little parlay and got all the things he wanted and bought an unlimited amount of time to continue his killing of Ukrainians to take a few more miles of territory without any repercussions from "there will be YUGE consequences if we don't get a ceasefire" Trump. 
 
This has nothing to do with Trump hate. This is seeing the facts for what they are, which you can't.
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		|  08-19-2025, 09:21 AM | #26 |  
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					Originally Posted by Jacky S  What I heard was World Leaders praising President Trump’s leadership on the World Stage.
 In actual interviews, not what the Liberal Main Stream Media tells you they said.
 
 All of these World Leaders have realized that much of the Main Stream Media is permeated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. Regardless of the successes, the are programmed to defy it.
 
 They despise the man to the extent that they would rather see failure than admit he knows exactly what he is doing.
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You didn't notice that Putin told Trump he won the 2020 election, and he would not have started the Ukraine conflict if Trump were President ?
 
butter, butter Trump 
He absolutely loves it 
He can add some of that butter to the orange tan bottle
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		|  08-19-2025, 05:04 PM | #27 |  
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					Originally Posted by VitaMan  You didn't notice that Putin told Trump he won the 2020 election, and he would not have started the Ukraine conflict if Trump were President ?
 
 butter, butter Trump
 He absolutely loves it
 He can add some of that butter to the orange tan bottle
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Quite possible that he was gaslighting Trump. It also could be true. 
 
Under the last 4 president's terms, which one did Putin not try to seize territory? Trump's.
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		|  08-19-2025, 05:52 PM | #28 |  
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			Are you kidding ?   What is happening right now ?
 
 And not just trying to seize territory.  Putin is trying to make it a required part to stop the conflict.
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		|  08-19-2025, 06:35 PM | #29 |  
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			Liberals gone wild.
 This Forum is a Microcosm of what is wrong with the left leaning liberal establishment in this Country.
 
 The simple fact is, they don’t get it.
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		|  08-19-2025, 06:36 PM | #30 |  
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			Liberals gone wild.
 This Forum is a Microcosm of what is wrong with the left leaning liberal establishment in this Country.
 
 The simple fact is, they don’t get it.
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