True Rate Of US Unemployment In August 2025 Is 24.7%...While The Phony Govt Rate Is 4.3%

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Imma say it up front first: Wozers! I'm totally aware of the things that happen at 250 BP. Good luck and keep heeding your doctor's advise, i.e. wise counsel.

Originally Posted by Ripmany

There all are because have a few doctors fake physical and now there not going to report the fraud. I have a CDL I have blood pressure in 250 range yeat no doctor will pass me because when I get into an accident I know to blame the doctor for plea.

What I get from this is: he does not want to risk getting his Doctor(s) in legal trouble if he happened to drive a big-rig (which he technically still has a license to do) and had a BP related episode and ended up causing grievous harm to others.

That's rather considerate and even noble - IMMHO.

Everyone should hit the Like button on this to show him some respect!!

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

How many long haul truck drivers are foreign citizens without valid work documents?

How many US citizens could be filling those jobs?

Probably quite a lot.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

I'm sure the officially published number is suspect for a variety of reasons, but doubt it is as high (~25%) as they claim.

Then there was that whole adding of either 80,000 or was it 800,000 jobs after the covid, when the President AutoPen regime "allowed" people to go back to work. I think those job gains went Poof!

As you may recall, Trump fired the Bureau of Labor Statistics chief for cooking the books recently. This was mainly for them claiming ~1Million jobs were added just ahead of the 2024 election and then Poof!, gone just after it.

Then there were a lot of terminations from the DOGE episode, in recent history, and now more coming during the Schmucker shutdown. A whole bunch more.

There is the whole: How do you account for jobs related to illegal aliens occupying? Is it a job loss if they are deported back to their home country?

What about job exchanges? To wit: If you deport an illegal alien and a recently terminated employee takes that job, how does it count? According to Rep. Becca Balint (D) Vermont, there is still a need for the job: “if we don’t have avenues for people to come here legally to work or to build a home here… we’re not gonna have anyone around to wipe our a**es because we don’t have enough people”


Here's a more sticky issue, just out:
Does each count as one or is it two job losses?!? Seeing whereas many of these "double" workers were likely cause by the covid remote work, where they already scratched in previous adjustment?

So yea, I suspect the "published" unemployment rate is suspect, yet not sure how to correctly calculate it in such a dynamic jobs environment. Come to think of it, maybe it's actually higher than 25%.

Close to 25% unemployment is more than likely more realistic than the official government numbers. Trump just recently fired his Labor Statistics chief because he didn't like the way the books were being cooked.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by royamcr

Wonder if this includes millions of gig workers like uber drivers that are burning up their cars for peanuts.

What it probably doesn't include is the millions of illegals Biden/Harris let in America to take your job and are still unemployed waiting in the wing to take your job.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by sand247

Under $25K earnings counted as "unemployed" is kinda wild. 10%+ of the labor force is 16-22 year olds.....the kind with part time jobs. The white paper didn't exlcude them, simply stated that they weren't looking for full time. At the end of the day you can make stats stand on their head and bark if you place enough restrictions on them.

They also lost me at an even breakdown among races, 28% for black/hispanic, 24% for white. Those numbers simply don't add up for the populatin breakdowns and known economic issues.

In short, it's bunk. Might as well sream HIV rates are 90% among sexually active people (when exlcluding hetero, white, female, high income....etc...etc)

The under $25K thing is kinda odd but Shadow Stats uses the old method the government used to calculate unemployment before the government changed the way they count unemployment to make the figures look better. Actually Shadow Stats calculates unemployment using 3 models if you read it on their website.

[CPT Savajo]

Originally Posted by VitaMan

Strange statistics. I will go with the government figure.

Your choice but I don't trust the Trump Administration to report accurate numbers. I trust John Williams Shadow Stats on unemployment. Trump couldn't even release the Epstein List. Trump couldn't even run a casino with a mathematical edge over the gamblers. And inflation is at 2%? We all know that's not true.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

...
Why no interest in how many have been killed or mangled by the recklessness of these bootleg drivers?

Yes. Let's expand on this "interest."
A loose inquiry with the googly states:

"Statistics do not differentiate between American and non-American big rig drivers, so it's impossible to give a separate death count for each. However, large truck crashes caused 4,354 deaths in the U.S. in 2023, with the majority of fatalities being occupants of other vehicles, pedestrians, bicyclists, or motorcyclists.
"

Out of that 4k+ number, show us all the links you can find of non-citizens causing these deaths.

With those stats, ima sure you can extrapolate what interest should be made.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...Out of that 4k+ number, show us all the links you can find of non-citizens causing these deaths...

Do your own leg work. Non-citizens should not be here illegally. Start there instead.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Do your own leg work. Non-citizens should not be here illegally. Start there instead.

LOL! You can dish it out but can't take it.

Typical maggie playbook item.

Keep the hate rolling now.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...Out of that 4k+ number, show us all the links you can find of non-citizens causing these deaths.

With those stats, ima sure you can extrapolate what interest should be made.

Well... if'n you must:

ICE Partnership with Oklahoma Highway Patrol Leads to 120 Illegal Alien Arrests, Including 91 Driving Big Rigs with CDLs
by Cassandra MacDonald Oct. 14, 2025

U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) teamed up with the Oklahoma Highway Patrol (OHP) for a three-day operation that resulted in the arrest of 120 illegal aliens...

...Ninety-one were operating commercial motor vehicles with Commercial Driver’s Licenses (CDLs). These individuals hailed from countries including India (39), China (12), Uzbekistan (13), and others such as Russia, Georgia, and Türkiye. Many were overstays, had pending asylum claims, or had entered illegally. Shockingly, their CDLs were issued primarily by blue states: California (44), New York (14), Pennsylvania (12), and Illinois (11), with a few issued by other states, such as New Jersey and Florida...

And now the math portion of the segment, as requested. So that 91, equates to 30 per day. Which would only be for the Western portion of Oklahoma, which as you should know, is a sliver of the State, geographically.

Regardless, let's call it half of the state, so 60 per day, thus yielding ~22,00 per year.
How many killed people? Dunno.

But let's pull that up to another 49 half-States.
So 30*50*2 illegal CDL drivers = 1,095,00 apprehensions per anum nationally.

So let's try 10 percent are deadly = 109,500 dead

So let's try 1 percent are deadly = 10,950 dead

But is that really the question to ask? Let's try this one:
Your entire family is going through the woods to GrandMa's house for Christmas dinner and gets killed by one, single, solitary, illegal CDL driver.
So how's ya feeling 'bout dat?!?
Gonna go with : Ghee, what are the odds?!?

If'n ya want, you can look up "Austin illegal CDL killed"
Ahhhh... it was a mere 5 people and dozens injured.

If'n ya want, you can look up "Florida illegal CDL killed"
Ahhhh... it was a mere 3 people and a few injured.

Here's an idea: Give all of those families a call and be sure to point out it was only because of a single, solitary, illegal alien with a bogus CDL license. Be sure to give them your home address and phone number so they can express their gratitude for your call appropriately.

[Precious_b]

Originally Posted by Why_Yes_I_Do

Smoke....
Mirrors...
Summation:
"How many killed people? Dunno."

Still waiting for what is asked for.

But thank you kind sir that you don't know such and just get herded with the maggie sheeple.

If one is going to incite riot reactions with deaths caused by a group of people, *dunno* ain't gonna get them off the couch.

Maggie playbook scare tactics, as those on this site love, does get to the lowest operating brainstem supporters.

[Why_Yes_I_Do]

Originally Posted by Precious_b

...If one is going to incite riot reactions with deaths caused by a group of people, *dunno* ain't gonna get them off the couch...

Congrats! Did you actually catch a glimpse of yourself in a mirror Count Dracula? Doubt it...

Lemme see if'n I got this right:
You are saying we are enforcing the law,
by rounding up people who are violating it,
simply by being here illegally,
with several committing other crimes
(some of which are so egregious that we can't even discuss them on these here fora),
and that is causing/forcing/compelling ya'll to riot,
as a reaction,
with a shadow funded army, aka Antifa/Pantifa,
which you claim does not exist,
and it's all the fault of the people that are enforcing the laws,
but certainly not the fault of the people literally "using" the interlopers for low end jobs,
such as what the Rep from Vermont needs,
because that azz ain't gonna wipe itself ya know,
which all means, nearly slave labor,
and of course you want us to foot the bill for them via our tax $,
because it impacts calculating the employment rate.
Sound about right?
My unprofessional advice:
Seek help right away.
If nothing else, stick to the OP topic at hand.