What happened to the hobby?

[victoryformation]

Originally Posted by BLM69

The hobby is not meant to be a long term gig for any woman, new fresh faces come into the rotation and the old ones fade away, the ones that stick around don't have much success compared to the new faces and have to fight harder to get a first visit. Then hope to get them to re-visit again. These high value Men $$$ want the best they can afford

100%!
Especially when you say: "These high value Men $$$ want the best".
U got dat right!
Discerning mongers after they've been indulged in "White Glove", K-Girl GFE ... develop an attitude!
And, a sense of (GFE) expectation!
They develop a sense of (GFE) entitlement!
(They are not willing to compromise!)

[Wile E Coyote]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

100%!
Especially when you say: "These high value Men $$$ want the best".
U got dat right!
Discerning mongers after they've been indulged in "White Glove", K-Girl GFE ... develop an attitude!
And, a sense of (GFE) expectation!
They develop a sense of (GFE) entitlement!
(They are not willing to compromise!)

While it is true that it is your money and you spend it on who you wish, be careful on your expectations. I have let mine known and not only have a few providers troll my posts and have relentlessly for years, but even other guys do the same as well.

All hobbyists want the most they can get for the money while all handlers/providers try to get as much money as they can and do as little as possible for it. Getting the rare providers who value client relations so the clients keep coming back to see them over the quick buck with the upsells and GPS donations are gold.

The value of seeing providers, especially the mentally checked out mannequins BCD for top dollar, is extremely low. As has been said, it may be better to whack off to free porn on the internet most of the time and save that money. Yes, there is a sense of entitlement from most providers as they feel they are doing you a favor of relieving you of your money, but the fact of the matter is, the hobbyist holds all the cards and deciding which ones to play shows everyone who you are.

So with the crime of a felony guys get labeled with when they get caught for solicitation, the bad BCD and even worse TCB skills of todays providers and getting raked over the coals for reporting intel, it is no wonder lots of guys are staying silent on their experiences or just keeping their money, leaving the boards for what they are becoming lurkers as most of the members and the ones that do make posts get thrown personal insults their way just for making posts of their opinion on a supposed opinionated board, if they are not all the way there now.

I have been blessed with having a handful or so of providers who do what they say and they show top customer service.

[TexTushHog]

At the risk of oversimplification 1) WALDT; and 2) prices are set by markets, not people.

Markets work best when there is perfect information. Before the internet, there were few markets where information was more imperfect than the hobby. If you found a hotel phone book with notes in the es out section left by a previous guest, you were in high cotton. The internet and review boards greatly increased the amount and quality of information.

Now, we know more, and there are those who seek to find inefficiencies in the market and exploit them to their advantage. Sometimes that leads to hiccups in the market.

[TrailBlazer]

Originally Posted by victoryformation

100%!
Especially when you say: "These high value Men $$$ want the best".
U got dat right!
Discerning mongers after they've been indulged in "White Glove", K-Girl GFE ... develop an attitude!
And, a sense of (GFE) expectation!
They develop a sense of (GFE) entitlement!
(They are not willing to compromise!)

Why are you here in Dallas posting & reposting about K-Girls in NJ? We’re a long way from NJ and most of us probably never want to go to that state.

[seventonine]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

…. crime of a felony … the bad BCD and even worse TCB skills … getting raked over the coals for reporting intel [or one’s own opinion if it differs from a WK]… becoming lurkers … make posts get thrown personal insults ….

^^ +1
Not to mention that some here have a significant amount to lose if RW info is compromised by a BSC provider or member.

[Bestman200600]

Biden inflation increased hobby prices 50%. The covid shutdown caused a number of ladies to get out of the hobby. I hobby half as much today as i did pre pandemic. Those providers that offer their regulars a better deal get the most dates. Mileage for the dollar. In the last 6 months 2 of my providers have proposed to me so I must be doing something right.

[onlyAMPs4menow]

Originally Posted by countrygirl0401

onlyAMPs4menow in my opinion is incorrect. Your talking about ASPD days from decades ago? As a companion my point of view is it might be your coin but the deciding factor is we choose to see you or not. As far as why we even do this everyone has their own reasons and how they operate and until you walk in their shoes how can you judge their reasoning or what they do. All of us have a story behind the hobby. You do realize we as companions keep the hobby separate from our personal lives and just cause you have seen us doesn't mean you know everything about us.

One thing that hasn't changed since the days of ASPD is there are some hookers here who are so wrapped up in hooking and this board they think what they say matters to the customer.

I don't have to walk in anyone's shoes. I pay them for my pleasure. That's how this works.

The person I see most isn't a spinner, nor is she under 40. She's ultra cool and about the best fuck I have had in the hobby. I respect her and enjoy our time.

That's why I am here. Not to be told what I think is incorrect.

You should run Cracker Barrel. They been busy telling us what we like isn't correct also. How'd that work out for them?

[Wile E Coyote]

Nobody is wrong in what they think about the hobby or its subjects. No one needs to tell other what to think, or at least give an outward opinion to fit in and not be insulted. On this site, it is clear that the frequent posters do not want to hear other opinions, even if they feel the same way on an opinion, then it matters who posted it. What they really want to see is their opinion coming from the keyboard strokes of others, aka some sort of twisted validation from others.

[victoryformation]

Originally Posted by Wile E Coyote

While it is true that it is your money and you spend it on who you wish, be careful on your expectations. I have let mine known and not only have a few providers troll my posts and have relentlessly for years, but even other guys do the same as well.

All hobbyists want the most they can get for the money while all handlers/providers try to get as much money as they can and do as little as possible for it. Getting the rare providers who value client relations so the clients keep coming back to see them over the quick buck with the upsells and GPS donations are gold.

The value of seeing providers, especially the mentally checked out mannequins BCD for top dollar, is extremely low. As has been said, it may be better to whack off to free porn on the internet most of the time and save that money. Yes, there is a sense of entitlement from most providers as they feel they are doing you a favor of relieving you of your money, but the fact of the matter is, the hobbyist holds all the cards and deciding which ones to play shows everyone who you are.

So with the crime of a felony guys get labeled with when they get caught for solicitation, the bad BCD and even worse TCB skills of todays providers and getting raked over the coals for reporting intel, it is no wonder lots of guys are staying silent on their experiences or just keeping their money, leaving the boards for what they are becoming lurkers as most of the members and the ones that do make posts get thrown personal insults their way just for making posts of their opinion on a supposed opinionated board, if they are not all the way there now.

I have been blessed with having a handful or so of providers who do what they say and they show top customer service.

I have a confession to make: I've been to the GFE/ATF Mountaintop, I struck the GFE Motherlode; I'm hopelessly spoiled; I have a sense of entitlement; I do not suffer fools; I demand (expect) excellence on all levels!
(I don't SPEND my $$$ on a provider ... I INVEST my $$$ in a provider!)
If I deem a provider, not, to be @ the top of her (GFE) game ... I ain't goin' back!

[victoryformation]

Originally Posted by TrailBlazer

Why are you here in Dallas posting & reposting about K-Girls in NJ? We’re a long way from NJ and most of us probably never want to go to that state.

I stumbled upon this site and noticed upon reading various reviews... that there is an inordinate amount of mongers on this board who have disappointing experiences!
(NCNS, robbed at gunpoint, old MP providers, fear of getting busted, lured to a homeless encampment!)
To me, these mongering experiences are unfathomable!
WTF?
(There,is, a better way!)
If a monger employs street-smarts and learns how to connect the dots ... he can sufficiently up his game and hookup with providers who are true professionals @ the top of their game!
(NCNS, getting robbed at gunpoint, subpar MP grannies ... will be few and far between... virtually nonexistent!)
By so doing ... he will be taking his mongering game ... to the next level!
My rhapsodizing about K-Girls ... is an effort to point my brothers in the right direction!
(Post is about to timeout ... more to follow!)

[LadyAnastasia]

The hobby has changed in many ways but mutual kindness and basic etiquette has fallen way off the mark.

I do appreciate the available now button although I do not find it to be beneficial.

I have spoken with many guys about the flaws of this discussion board we all know what it is and we don't really need to discuss it.

[Arcane]

It's all SESTA/FOSTA. Younger women don't want to risk it. Not that they're staying abreast about the severity of laws changing...