Another person killed by ICE in Minn

[1blackman1]

Waiting for excuses from the Trumpers to justify this killing in

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[CG2014]

He had a gun with 2 magazines and he approached the ICE officers with the gun visible on him in open carry.


When the ICE officers try to apprehend another person, he jumped between them and tried to intervene and prevent the arrest.

[RX792P]

Originally Posted by CG2014

He had a gun with 2 magazines and he approached the ICE officers with the gun visible on him in open carry.


When the ICE officers try to apprehend another person, he jumped between them and tried to intervene and prevent the arrest.

Please provide a link to video or other evidence showing this 'gun visible in open carry'

Did Alex Pretti brandish or even put his hand on that gun during the encounter?
BTW, current info says Alex was licensed for carry.

nitpick...the photo of the gun provided by authorities shows a racked open gun (i.e. no magazine inserted) and 1 magazine...where's the other magazine.


https://x.com/DropSiteNews/status/20...alex-pretti%2F
https://x.com/TheJFreakinC/status/20...-killed-was%2F

https://x.com/BrandonStraka/status/2...-killed-was%2F
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LkHNay6R0Os

[jayjaychrome]

Originally Posted by CG2014

He had a gun with 2 magazines and he approached the ICE officers with the gun visible on him in open carry.


When the ICE officers try to apprehend another person, he jumped between them and tried to intervene and prevent the arrest.

Was he illegally armed or was he legally practicing his second amendment rights?

Are you saying that a citizen intervening in an arrest justifies their death? Even if it were Biden's federal agents killing a right wing protester for being armed while intervening in what they felt was an illegal arrest? One has to wonder

[VitaMan]

You can protest.


But you can't intervene with law enforcement activities, and not expect a bad outcome. That is breaking the law. And these are fluid and usually split second activities.

[offshoredrilling]

another dump fuck that asked ta die "BOO-HOO"

[eccieuser9500]

Do . . . lives matter?

"Never open the door to a lesser evil, for other and greater ones invariably slink in after it."

[RX792P]

From a non professional but trained observer, looks like Alex's gun was taken from him and being carried away before the first of 10 shots were fired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis...are&utm_term=1

[Mplay]

Stop interfering with law enforcement that are removing people who are here illegally. They are going home to their families dumbshit nurse isn’t.

[Tiny]

Trump should fire Kristi Noem and get ICE the hell out of Minnesota, if for no other reason than this will hurt Republicans in the midterms. Not to mention it's the right thing to do. A woman who will look for any old excuse to kill her dog shouldn't be put in charge of federal agents who are going up against protestors.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by RX792P

From a non professional but trained observer, looks like Alex's gun was taken from him and being carried away before the first of 10 shots were fired.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Minneapolis...are&utm_term=1

But only about a second before if this CNN analysis is correct

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FR-fz57PEU

[eccieuser9500]

Originally Posted by Tiny

Trump should fire Kristi Noem and get ICE the hell out of Minnesota, if for no other reason than this will hurt Republicans in the midterms. Not to mention it's the right thing to do. A woman who will look for any old excuse to kill her dog shouldn't be put in charge of federal agents who are going up against protestors.

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[ICU 812]

There is a trendy acronym floating around lately . . .FAFO I think it is.

If you interrupt law enforcement while they are enforcing the law, then you yourself become part of their official problem. In that case, all the legal rules of engagement come interplay.

FAFO indeed.

[CPT Savajo]

Had the social justice warrior been working on his bedside manner "Stat" this would have never happened. One less useful idiot that the Democrats have. He fucked around and found out. Democrats must thank Google/Youtube for running ICE hiring ads for months on their platform when they thought Big Tech was on their side??? Ponder that.

[yeahsurewhatev]

Originally Posted by ICU 812

There is a trendy acronym floating around lately . . .FAFO I think it is.

If you interrupt law enforcement while they are enforcing the law, then you yourself become part of their official problem. In that case, all the legal rules of engagement come interplay.

FAFO indeed.

WTF are the legal rules of engagement. Disarm, then execute?