Our company is dropping our group health plan

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Actually, you really don't know what I believe. But you are at the center of the uncontrollably skyrocketing health care costs over the past 30-40 years. I work pretty much in the same industry you do. But I am trying to make sure that gangsters like you get their legs cut out from under themselves and the people of the US aren't slaves to robber barons.

I believe Nixon, Reagan and Dole advocated for the same thing.

the rest of these drooling dipshits can rail all they want against Obama but you know that shit shit goes WAAAYYYY back. and it ain't about Oblackula.

Absent an educated response, I'll have no choice than to assume you're a hospital accountant who can't get pussy from the female nurses and therefore is an ECCIE member.

The only way you will ever win your crusade is if it is made illegal to profit in the healthcare industry. I can tell you that you are way off if you think a hospital admin or accountant controls what profits are made in the health care industry. For the most part they are simpletons working week to week to get through life and just following orders. You need to look at the private firms whose business model is buying up failed non-profit hospitals that have lost their major charitable donors, and the current management does not possess the skill or knowledge to actually turn a profit.

Good luck on your quest, I don't mind informing you, because I don't think you can stop it. The health care industry has done the absolute best that anyone could have ever imagined at keeping their industry secretive and non-transparent. Hell, Obama farts and the entire world hears about it within minutes, yet no has a clue how the health care industry actually works after almost a century. Besides, it does look like the dems will be in for a while and I'll probably be moving on to CO and WA enjoying much greener pastures and profits now that Obama has given the green light..

[IIFFOFRDB]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Oblackula.

what the fuck does that even mean, Toggaf Rider?

[Yssup Rider]

Just can't figure it out, can you SJ?

[Yssup Rider]

Great. I think it was the voters who gave CO and WA the green light, not Obama.

That said, I'm on no quest, as you put it. Just bringing forth subjects which you conveniently avoid or ignore in your pontificating. Private enterprise is what built this nation. But, like public safety and education, I believe access to health care is a right, not an profit center.

Balance the discussion and put the issue before those who largely caused it.

Same guys with golf courses in their back yards.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Great. I think it was the voters who gave CO and WA the green light, not Obama.

Nope, the voters only made it legal from state prosecution. Obama just announced that they will not prosecute on a federal level as well for any state that has adopted such laws. Which, it is the only reason I voted for him in '08 and why I have eased my negativity towards him. He hasn't gone the whole way, but I will give him kudos for his recent policy changes.

[Yssup Rider]

wasn't Obama.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

wasn't Obama.

Are you siding with the repubs on this one? Better be careful, it will be a major on Hillary's platform in '16, and I'd hate to see the dems kick you to the curb for not supporting her. It's never Obama when he does something a lib disagrees with or may get them in trouble, it's some rogue attorney general making an official Obama administration policy that he didn't know about. Okay, if you say so.

[Yssup Rider]

what does that mean, bubba?

More Fox News neocon double talk.

I'm saying President Obama issue any executive order, letter or opinion saying the government was to look the other way.

Agree or disagree with the legalization of pot (I agree) my point is that Obama didn't "green light" it.

so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Cheech.

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

what does that mean, bubba?

More Fox News neocon double talk.

I'm saying President Obama issue any executive order, letter or opinion saying the government was to look the other way.

Agree or disagree with the legalization of pot (I agree) my point is that Obama didn't "green light" it.

so stick that in your pipe and smoke it, Cheech.

Just bing "holder gives green light" and click on the first link, you will then be informed. And of course Fox News is not reporting on it, it goes against the repub ideology. Now, MSNBC is all over it on a daily basis.

[nk_cm2005]

My Health Insurance cost is going down 34% with the NYS exchange. I am very happy!

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by nk_cm2005

My Health Insurance cost is going down 34% with the NYS exchange. I am very happy!

Sweet! Be sure and thank all the less populated states with lower costs of health care that are now subsidizing your insurance premiums

[Yssup Rider]

Like Oklahoma?

[nwarounder]

Originally Posted by Yssup Rider

Like Oklahoma?

Yes, the cost of health care is cheaper in Oklahoma than in NY.

[Doove]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

Sweet! Be sure and thank all the less populated states with lower costs of health care that are now subsidizing your insurance premiums

Soon as they start thanking New York for subsidizing their very existence for the last 200+ years.

[Yssup Rider]

Originally Posted by nwarounder

Yes, the cost of health care is cheaper in Oklahoma than in NY.

Why do you suppose that is?