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Old 01-31-2014, 02:48 PM   #16
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I applaud you

would that we all boycott health insurance, obamacare or otherwise

the unwieldy, ungainly, wasteful and obscenely distrustful healthcare system built haphazardly and outside the winnowing mold of normal market forces is something to detest.. health insurance begets the bloat of all the ills in a system ostensibly meant for relief

if the entire nation boycotted health insurance for a year...or longer..that surely would wake them up
Exactly the reason a single-payer system should be put in place.
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Old 01-31-2014, 03:38 PM   #17
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Exactly the reason a single-payer system should be put in place.
The Single Payer System could possibly work. I think eventually our Healthcare system will come to that. However the only way it could really work and be beneficial overall is for a premium to be paid yearly in full or through a short payment plan. No deductible or copayment there after for healthcare services. deductibles and copayments are getting ridiculous. If a Single Payer system could be managed fairly and humanely through the Government it could gain support, but that's a big "If". Government would have to instill a great deal of confidence in people first.


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Old 01-31-2014, 03:44 PM   #18
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Exactly the reason a single-payer system should be put in place.
So "we" cook up a sorry ass plan to provide private insurance on the government tit, fuck with the private insurance companies by bribing them with supplements and cramming regs down their throats, create an unworkable mess of a website to jerk people around trying to sign up to avoid a MANDATORY PENALTY TAX, cause others to lose their coverage when they were told they wouldn't, and then ....

when all that shit hits the fan .... use the mess to show we need socialized medicine.

Oh wait: You call it a "single-payer" system ... I forgot.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:17 PM   #19
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Call it whatever you like, LLIdiot. The bill was passed without the public option, which was a key element of a national health insurance program. Obama and the Ds did not want to cut it out.

Now you're crying for the poor private insurance companies who got regulations crammed down their throats (they were so responsible beforehand, after all).

Well BOO FRICKETY HOO.

It wasn't a perfect plan to begin with but made far less perfect by the obstructionist RepubliCAN'Ts. Now that people are signing up, millions more are covered than before and it's actually working, the squealing from the frustrated right gets even louder.

You silly fucks can't actually explain why you're against everything, just that you're against everything.

Sounds perfectly sane.
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:53 PM   #20
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IBJunior, what the fuck are you talking about? I guess neocons are supposed to hate and deny others a chance at success. You're a fucking idiot.
You know exactly what the fuck I am talking about, you phony liberal retard. You push an ill-conceived clusterfuck of a plan on every American in the name of EMPATHY and COMPASSION for the uninsured. Then when it blows up and millions of Americans find themselves screwed, your deep wells of compassion and empathy suddenly run dry.

You even GLOAT at their misfortune and rub it in their faces by bragging "Hey look at me - I'm not devastated like you are!"

You want to know who the real HATER is? Try looking in the mirror, asshole! The people in the video are honest, hard-working Western Pennsylvania folks so it's easy to see why a phony, dishonest libtard layabout like you would hate them.

Gimme some more o' dat Obamacare and fuck the rest of the country, right Assup?
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Old 01-31-2014, 04:58 PM   #21
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You silly fucks can't actually explain why you're against everything, just that you're against everything.
I am against health insurance because it is not transparent; no one can ever tell me what something is going to cost in advance, not because they don't know what they are going to do, but because they don't know how some untrained bill examiner is going to read a code.

I am against health insurance because those codes relate to different costs depending on what insurance a person has. In effect, cost is based on status, not on actual resources used.

I am against health insurance...and this relates to the industry...because big pharma sends cunts out to give doctors donuts as incentive to promote their drugs. Big pharma spends money on marketing to tell me to ask my doctor for a drug. I go to see the doc to find out what drugs I need, although I usually refuse them.

I could go on with personal detailed shit but mostly I am against health insurance because it gets between the patient and the care.

Single payer is a socialized system and there are some dangers in that. Joseph McCarthy is long gone and it is time to stop shutting down ideas due to that one word.
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Ben Carson Warns: ‘Socialized Medicine" is the worst thing since slavery...


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