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Old 10-12-2011, 03:36 PM   #91
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Old 10-14-2011, 01:48 PM   #92
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Here is a transcript of a recent segment on John King's CNN program; in it, Obama acknowledges knowing about Fast and Furious before Holder !

If true, somebody is lying.......or so incompetantent that they need to resign/fire immediately.



CNN's John King plays Holder's testimony to Congress on MAY 3, 2011, where he said he had only just recently heard about the Fast & Furious gunrunning program. "I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks," Attorney General Eric Holder said.

Then CNN compares Holder's testimony to what President Obama said in MARCH to CNN Espanol about the operation. "I heard on the news about this story that -- Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn't apprehend those who had sent it." Transcript of the segment that aired on "John King USA" below:
KING: Well, Congressman Cummings, let's get to one of the questions here. Let's first listen to the attorney general. He came before this committee back in May. Here's what he said.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

ISSA: When did you first know about the program officially I believe called Fast and Furious? To the best of your knowledge, what date?

ERIC HOLDER, U.S. ATTORNEY GENERAL: I'm not sure of the exact date, but I probably heard about Fast and Furious for the first time over the last few weeks.

(END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: He says over the last few weeks.

That is on May 3, 2011. Listen to this interview the president of the United States, not the attorney general, the president of the United States, had with CNN Espanol back in March.

(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)

BARACK OBAMA, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES: There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that -- Fast and Furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico, and ATF knew about it, but didn't apprehend those who had sent it.

Eric Holder has -- the attorney general has been very clear that he knew nothing about this. We had assigned an I.G., inspector general, to investigate it. (END VIDEO CLIP)

KING: It begs the question, how did the president know about this in March, and how did the president know the attorney general knew nothing about this in march, when the attorney general says in May he just learned about it a couple weeks ago?

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/vid...d_he_knew.html
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:30 PM   #93
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Way too much man-hugging going on here fellas; get back to your corners and come out fighting.
That is your major problem here. You act like you caught your mother, your sister, your girl friend, your wife, and your daughter all sucking Obama's cock, at the same time, for the tenth time.

You care nothing for the truth. As long as it is negative and anti-Obama, you will post it. No "oops" no nothing when you are completly wrong.

Get over your obsession.

Before Obama, your "crew" asked me, WTF, and Doove.
They were put off by the extreme ugliness of your gang of girls and declined to do them.

I thought they were nasty too but I'll fuck anything.

So I did........twice.
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Old 10-14-2011, 02:35 PM   #94
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That is your major problem here. You act like you caught your mother, your sister, your girl friend, your wife, and your daughter all sucking Obama's cock, at the same time, for the tenth time.

You care nothing for the truth. As long as it is negative and anti-Obama, you will post it. No "oops" no nothing when you are completly wrong.

Get over your obsession.

Before Obama, your "crew" asked me, WTF, and Doove.
They were put off by the extreme ugliness of your gang of girls and declined to do them.

I thought they were nasty too but I'll fuck anything.

So I did........twice.
While excessive in example, the basic concept holds true. My apologies to any of the listed females that actually exist for implying that anyone other than you is to blame for your own psychosis.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:22 PM   #95
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WTF are you rattling about.................have you started your weekend binge early?

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That is your major problem here. You act like you caught your mother, your sister, your girl friend, your wife, and your daughter all sucking Obama's cock, at the same time, for the tenth time.

You care nothing for the truth. As long as it is negative and anti-Obama, you will post it. No "oops" no nothing when you are completly wrong.

Get over your obsession.

Before Obama, your "crew" asked me, WTF, and Doove.
They were put off by the extreme ugliness of your gang of girls and declined to do them.

I thought they were nasty too but I'll fuck anything.

So I did........twice.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:23 PM   #96
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More craziness................
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While excessive in example, the basic concept holds true. My apologies to any of the listed females that actually exist for implying that anyone other than you is to blame for your own psychosis.
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Old 10-14-2011, 03:47 PM   #97
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Here is a transcript of a recent segment on John King's CNN program; in it, Obama acknowledges knowing about Fast and Furious before Holder !

If true, somebody is lying.......or so incompetantent that they need to resign/fire immediately.
"Somebodies" are lying AND incompetent.

I like when BHO says "I heard about it ON THE NEWS" - how isolated from your underlings are you? You sure you didn't read in on the HuffPo? See it on MSNBC? Or was it on the radio during the your morning drive time to the course? Do your people only notify you for drone strikes and fund raising events?
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Old 11-08-2011, 02:54 PM   #98
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As for the Topic, you know that sooner or later the anti-gun nuts would have used this episode to promote their agenda, with The President's, and his lap dog Holders blessing. So while this was not the primary motive in this boondoggle, it would have certainly been the major secondary.
Sen. Feinstein: Lax gun control is real ‘problem’ with Fast and Furious

Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that lax gun control laws, not Obama administration malfeasance within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), was the real problem uncovered by Operation Fast and Furious.

Feinstein added, “but we have very lax laws when it comes to guns and I think, to some extent, this influences BATF as to whether they have political support or not,” Feinstein said. “But, I think these numbers are shocking — and when you know the number of deaths these guns have caused, used by cartels against victims, it’s literally up in the tens of thousands.”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/01/sen-feinstein-lax-gun-control-is-real-problem-with-fast-and-furious/

Assistant AG Breuer's Testimony Addresses Weak Gun Laws
November 01, 2011 5:03 pm ET — Chris Brown

From Breuer's testimony:

BREUER: From my understanding, 94,000 weapons have been recovered in the last 5 years in Mexico. Those are just the ones recovered, Senator [Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)], not the ones that are in Mexico, and of the 94,000 weapons that have been recovered in Mexico, 64,000 of those are traced to the United States. We have to do something to prevent criminals from getting those guns, Senator.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201111010011
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Old 11-08-2011, 03:09 PM   #99
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It’s the famous liberal two-step: First screw something up, then claim that it’s screwed up because there’s not enough government oversight, and then step in and really screw it up in the name of “reform.-Ann Coulter

HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! She sure knows liberals! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA! HA!
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:29 PM   #100
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Sen. Feinstein: Lax gun control is real ‘problem’ with Fast and Furious

Democratic California Sen. Dianne Feinstein told a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that lax gun control laws, not Obama administration malfeasance within the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATF), was the real problem uncovered by Operation Fast and Furious.

Feinstein added, “but we have very lax laws when it comes to guns and I think, to some extent, this influences BATF as to whether they have political support or not,” Feinstein said. “But, I think these numbers are shocking — and when you know the number of deaths these guns have caused, used by cartels against victims, it’s literally up in the tens of thousands.”

http://dailycaller.com/2011/11/01/sen-feinstein-lax-gun-control-is-real-problem-with-fast-and-furious/

Assistant AG Breuer's Testimony Addresses Weak Gun Laws
November 01, 2011 5:03 pm ET — Chris Brown

From Breuer's testimony:

BREUER: From my understanding, 94,000 weapons have been recovered in the last 5 years in Mexico. Those are just the ones recovered, Senator [Dianne Feinstein (D-CA)], not the ones that are in Mexico, and of the 94,000 weapons that have been recovered in Mexico, 64,000 of those are traced to the United States. We have to do something to prevent criminals from getting those guns, Senator.

http://politicalcorrection.org/blog/201111010011
didn't they inflate those numbers up quite abit?

I think I read somewhere it was stated only 4,000 actually came from the U.S.?
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:31 PM   #101
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btw, I wouldn't mind seeing the dismantling of ATF and have its functions transferred to FBI & FDA.
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Old 11-08-2011, 06:53 PM   #102
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didn't they inflate those numbers up quite abit?

I think I read somewhere it was stated only 4,000 actually came from the U.S.?
Yes. Hillary postulated a similar lie two years ago and was corrected.

ATF Deputy Assistant Director Bill McMahon provided Congress the correct figures several months ago. Of the 100,000 firearms recovered in Mexico, only 18,000 were traced to the United States. Of those, only 7,900 were traced to licensed U.S. firearms dealers.


http://www.chron.com/news/nation-wor...ms-1729026.php

But the left doesn't want you to hear the truth: it's a propaganda technique perfected by Hitler. The expression Große Lüge, “Big Lie”, was coined by Adolf Hitler, when he dictated his 1925 book Mein Kampf. He maintained that “people will believe a big lie sooner than a little one; and if you repeat it frequently enough people will sooner or later believe it.”
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