Is Burnout Permanent or Temporary?

[cinderbella]

I am getting burned out worrying about not getting caught. LE in Texas stinging women who they have no right to bust logically. Women who are independent and otherwise law abiding citizens who don't have a pimp or a drug habit. NO I have not been in any trouble with anyone, but I want to keep it that way and I lose alot of sleep over it. By preying on easy targets (providers) they have quite a racket going with men getting rich off the arrests of independent providers who are trying to pay their bills and support their families. Between the bond, the car impound, the lawyers and church going scam artists otherwise known as tax accountants there is a whole business revolving around stings and preying upon providers.

I also don't like feeling like a piece of meat. Some guys don't want me since they may think I am too old, and I turn away guys who are too young for me. Most of the time I have received lots of rave reviews but right now I feel out of touch with almost everyone and I have no idea how to keep up the momentum.

[pyramider]

Burk should just join a convent.

[Deva Divine]

Originally Posted by cinderbella

By preying on easy targets (providers) they have quite a racket going with men getting rich off the arrests of independent providers who are trying to pay their bills and support their families. Between the bond, the car impound, the lawyers and church going scam artists otherwise known as tax accountants there is a whole business revolving around stings and preying upon providers.

I also don't like feeling like a piece of meat.

And women are made easy targets by reviews. Why do the review writers on these forums have to incriminate themselves and the women they spend time with, by revealing the intimate details that are nobody's business? Why can't men just say "I highly recommend so and so, but not what's her name!" and leave it at that?

I keep wondering why the cops don't arrest the men who are posting how much they paid for a BBBJ, instead of targeting the ladies they see, who would all be more than perfectly happy to sell simple companionship, and let the sex unfold naturally as they get to know someone gradually.

This is a ridiculously synthetic business. Simulating sexual hunger. And the unfortunate alternative is dire poverty and starvation. A friend of mind decided to quit. She just decided she would rather die than be degraded any further. I went by to see her a couple months later and she had lost about 45 pounds. She was thin as a twig. She had no food in her house.

Any man over 40 with minuscule compassion and sensitivity is going to feel frustrated and dissatisfied by a sexual connection that is devoid of genuine affection. One such man was so hurt by his divorce that he swore he would never marry again. He saw escorts for years. He reached the point where he
couldn't get it up to have sex with them any more, and came to me for advice.

I told him that he had depleted his own passion juice so drastically by having sex without involving his heart, that sucking a little bit from women wasn't enough to fuel his desire. You have to generate it from within to retain your power. And you generate it from within by developing intimacy skills.

It is sad, disheartening, and disturbing that so many married people are lacking in their abilities to connect intimately in a way that leads to passionate fulfillment. And even worse that their deficit has given birth to a hungry beast of a business like this, that openly provides the police with probable cause to investigate the women involved, who are the least capable of doing anything other than what they are doing.

I beat the drums of repetition....

Why don't the police arrest the men who are posting how much they paid for a BBBJTCAS from so and so, instead of putting so and so on the list of women that need to be arrested????

Having sex with men who post reviews is tantamount to having sex with a snitch who turns you in to the cops. Is this system is a reflection of how desperate women are for money? Are there women who enjoy being hounded by the cops, getting arrested, having to move, change their phone, and appreciate being put at risk, and want it that way? Are there women with Pancho Villa personality types who love dodging the bullets of law men? Are there any women in this business who would rather have men simply say "I thoroughly enjoyed having dinner with Lovely Linda Lady Best, and I highly recommend spending time with her, it is money well spent!"?

[Deva Divine]

Originally Posted by secret.dreamer

Quit

Then what? Kill your kids so they won't starve to death? Shoot yourself so you won't go to jail for murder?

I went to school and got a university degree. The best job offer I've had since graduation was for $8.50 per hour.

[pyramider]

Cinder,

You cannot be everything to everyone. Too old/too young ... too big/too skinny ... too tall/too short ... too light/too dark ... boobs too big/boobs too small ... no kissing/too much kissing ... I thinck you see the pattern developing. Providers always have to deal with the fucktards that just need a hole. But some fucktards actually enjoy the company of the ladies. Hopefully, these fucktards let the ladies know they are appreciated. Stay true to yourself.

[pyramider]

Originally Posted by Deva Divine

Then what? Kill your kids so they won't starve to death? Shoot yourself so you won't go to jail for murder?
.

DD,

I thinck the message got lost. The hobby is not for everyone. No harm/no foul. Some people are too well adjusted to last in the hobby.

[burkalini]

Sorry gang I didn't mean for everyone to go all meaning of life and shit. I had a bad day but it's over. I even had a shitty session today( review to follow) to break my string of good luck on Vegas providers and am still positive. My hardon reminded me that it's just too fun to get serious about. Now pyramider if the convent had hot ladies willing to BBBJ I might join but until that happens I got to pass. lol

[cinderbella]

Hi, I just had to comment once more since this topic is so relevant. Thanks for all the replies, very helpful.

Eccie has been a wonderful teaching tool but a double edge sword for me. I started out a couple of years ago placing a simple ad with no picture on craigslist under theraputic massage. I was so naive I actually thought I was going to get chronically ill people, perhaps some chemo patients and people who I was used to working with in all my years in the healthcare field. Instead, I got a bunch of calls from men which shocked me a bit because I had been out of the dating field for a very long time. Of course, I fantasized about doing sensual massage but I was under the impression that was something Asian women did. (yes I know so naive).

I then read the book, Sex Secrets of an Escort and it all made sense. I applied the author's infinite wisdom to my own life and adopted her wonderful attitude and let go of all my shame and guilt. I embraced my clients and took pride in my ability to connect and trust. I learned to touch with care and meaning. I learned that a persons physical appearance had nothing to do with character. I fell in love with massage and all the wonderful people it put in my orbit. To this day, whenever someone has an orgasm in my presence I smile and laugh with glee. It is about the most personable thing we can witness.

Ironically, I had not yet heard of eccie. I read the first Amanda Brooks book and emailed her for advice. Her sage wisdom brought me around to eccie. I decided to join after learning about the risks I was taking legally. I joked later to my boyfriend that I felt like the Lucille Ball of eccie, not fitting in to the vibe and not feeling very accepted or that I had much in common with anyone on eccie sometimes. Like a fish out of water. Of course, I have met some wonderful people on eccie- both providers and clients. But I am "old fashioned" and I can't stand using sexuality as a means for attention, I find by and large I connect with clients when I advertise massage only with a simple head shot. Amanda Brooks does advise that a provider advertise in the manner that she feels the most comfortable portraying and not try to be a personality that she really is not. I found that I prefer to start out with a massage and see where it leads individually without preconception of anything. Not always an approach that eccie clients are wanting to go with.

[alex_reece]

Interesting thread. I've only started this hobby a couple of months ago. Haven't seen many women, but until recently, my experiences has been Ok, to decent, to pretty good. Once you guys find that one or two ladies that does the trick, do you think it best to just keep them as your "go to's" for a while until you are ready to move on then?

[burkalini]

You need a new one very now and then but always keep your go to's. They will keep your attitude up about the hobby

[jfred]

Originally Posted by burkalini

You need a new one very now and then but always keep your go to's. They will keep your attitude up about the hobby

Yes, it is an interesting thread. You're obviously well-known here (not to mention well-published) and a very active hobbyist. You're also candid to share your depressed libido condition with others (or you're an exhibitionist and jack off as you read this stuff. Who knows?).

There are several posters I'd like to interact with, but I'll keep it simple.

If you're in the hobby I agree that it is best to know some women who make it work, at least pretty well...well enough not to trouble your sensitive soul with their personal sorrows (which may be deep). Even better is if they know how to share just enough of theirs to balance what you share about your own woes. But never more and never the really heavy shit.

Crazy young women can be wonderful sex partners. But they are crazy. And after you watch one or two, always bound for disaster, go thru self-destruct... I actually don't know if that's a problem for you or not. I found it enough to kill my lust for them. (Mostly.) There's a big dose of heart-ache in this world.

But here's the other thing, and it's big: sometimes sex (no matter how often or how skillfully performed, or with what variations and regardless of mutual devotion and even monogamy) is just not enough in the big picture. Life is short and you're gonna die. Right?

Here's the ugly-cousin corollary to that: commercial sex (with perhaps the exception of the "OMG! Phase" early on) is inferior to sex with a passionate lover who wants you. So don't be surprised if you wake up some mornings feeling dull.

I'd also like to expand on what the guy who said "Quit" said. You should consider it. If the thought makes you sweaty you should should absolutely do it, as a challenge to yourself if you have to.

It sounds all Zen, but I'd recommend embracing the pain (or malaise or whatever) and seeing where it leads you. What's it like when you feel that way and what are your thoughts? You write (1000's of fucking posts!) so keep a dairy or write essays to yourself. Even if you stay a sport-fucker for another year or two, you'll have a record to come back to and compare to, and see where you've come.

Sex is a very effective medication for pain of various sorts. I stopped psychoactive drugs recently after 25 years (I think. And I'm talking about Rx stuff, like Zoloft, all legal) because after using something so long and depending on it to take the edge off...WFT? "How would I be without it and might there be benefits I've forgotten about?" becomes the question. Maybe I'm better with an edge but don't know it, right?

Don't necessarily be in a hurry to "feel better" or "get the feeling back" or even "get your attitude up about the hobby.". Don't waste the bad shit that comes along in your head. Think (and feel) outside the box when the opportunity presents itself. Sweet Ladies of the Night will be there no matter how long it takes you. And if you never return they will survive.