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Yesterday, 11:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
If Trump is guilty and there is evidence in the Epstein files, why did Biden and Kamala not release them?
It’s not a hard question. But you won’t answer bc you’ve painted yourself into a corner. Again.
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Prove to us there isn't a list.
There's surely a flight log.- investigatory files, ...charges
..... and there's also eye-witness testimony from the girls who were at island. They are the ones who should be listened to since it's they who are making the accusations; you know the ones that put Epstein and his girlfriend in jail.
....so when you say there isn't a list, maybe you should say- there isn't likely a complete list, but the fact that those two were ever charged and in jail proves that INDEED, there is a list of one or more people who were involved with the actions and charges. To believe elsewise- it's truly astonishing that REDHATS are so gullible. There are public name lists of over 150 ppl who went to the island, including celebs and joe Shmoes.
THe lists have been created by researching civil court records, flight logs and attorneys who represent the victims, and the banks who arranged payoffs such as Deutche bank and others. To be clear- not all who are on those lists are likely guilty of the same crimes as Epstein, but the facts are clear. He didnt' get arrested for NOTHING, and plead guilty to his crimes. AND further - DJT's name DOES show up on several documents also. Also the " LIST" may not be of Epstein's creation but of the investigators who detailed the coming and going, and also the testimony that was provided when charge Maxwell and Epstein.
Trump telling Bondi- 'to release pertinent and reliable information' is completely up to Bondi on how to proceed and with allegiance to Dumb-Dumb, then she's not gonna release anything. But the truth has a nasty habit of coming out regardless.
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Yesterday, 11:45 AM
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#137
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Join Date: Nov 4, 2014
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
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Originally Posted by eyecu2
Prove to us there isn't a list.
There's surely a flight log.- investigatory files, ...charges
..... and there's also eye-witness testimony from the girls who were at island. They are the ones who should be listened to since it's they who are making the accusations; you know the ones that put Epstein and his girlfriend in jail.
....so when you say there isn't a list, maybe you should say- there isn't likely a complete list, but the fact that those two were ever charged and in jail proves that INDEED, there is a list of one or more people who were involved with the actions and charges. To believe elsewise- it's truly astonishing that REDHATS are so gullible. There are public name lists of over 150 ppl who went to the island, including celebs and joe Shmoes.
THe lists have been created by researching civil court records, flight logs and attorneys who represent the victims, and the banks who arranged payoffs such as Deutche bank and others. To be clear- not all who are on those lists are likely guilty of the same crimes as Epstein, but the facts are clear. He didnt' get arrested for NOTHING, and plead guilty to his crimes. AND further - DJT's name DOES show up on several documents also. Also the " LIST" may not be of Epstein's creation but of the investigators who detailed the coming and going, and also the testimony that was provided when charge Maxwell and Epstein.
Trump telling Bondi- 'to release pertinent and reliable information' is completely up to Bondi on how to proceed and with allegiance to Dumb-Dumb, then she's not gonna release anything. But the truth has a nasty habit of coming out regardless.
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Nope. I don’t know what there is and isn’t. And neither do you other than what was previously released.
What I do know is if 47 was in the files in a negative and guilty manner, it would have been 1 million % released by Biden/Kamala prior to the 2024 election.
Give me one logical reason why Biden/Kamala would not have thrown Trump under the bus? You can’t.
Lose your TDS for just 1 minute. You’ve bought into a fantasy that you want to be true.
You know I’m right.
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Yesterday, 12:37 PM
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#138
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Could it be possible that BOTH sides are right? Biden and Trump didn’t want to release the files because both have something to hide? Either personally or for party/friendship loyalty.
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Yesterday, 12:39 PM
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#139
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The Man (He/Him/His)
Join Date: May 7, 2019
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Originally Posted by Charley3
Could it be possible that BOTH sides are right? Biden and Trump didn’t want to release the files because both have something to hide? Either personally or for party/friendship loyalty.
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It certainly seems possible. We're there any limitations on what could be shared and when, tied to any of the criminal proceedings?
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Today, 10:55 AM
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#140
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trump just reopened the "Hillary's emails" case. Lol! He's 1000% on the Epstein list in a negative manner.
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Today, 11:00 AM
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#141
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Originally Posted by tommy156
trump just reopened the "Hillary's emails" case. Lol! He's 1000% on the Epstein list in a negative manner.
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Yeah totally.
Potato head Joe and border czar Kamala decided not to release the files with Trump in them because they didn’t want to win the election.
Makes perfect sense based on lib logic.
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Today, 11:02 AM
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#142
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So, all trump has to do is release the files to prove he's not in them, right? Right?! What the fuck kinda logic is that? If he's innocent, he'd release everything to exonerate himself right now.
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Today, 11:22 AM
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#143
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Or he could do this.
"President Trump has told us to release all credible evidence…" he wrote. "Therefore, at the direction of Attorney General Bondi, I have communicated with counsel for Ms. Maxwell to determine whether she would be willing to speak with prosecutors from the Department."
“The new outreach to Maxwell marks the first time, according to Blanche, that any administration has approached her legal team with an inquiry into potential cooperation.”
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Today, 11:36 AM
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#144
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The Man (He/Him/His)
Join Date: May 7, 2019
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The fix is in, boys
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Today, 11:58 AM
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#145
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The Epstein list is never coming out and it has nothing to do with the names on the client list. No president, republican or democrat is willing to reveal that the whole thing was an Israeli intelligence operation. The public would not allow the US to continue a favorable relationships with the company that sanctioned the trafficking of American children.
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Today, 12:19 PM
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#146
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Originally Posted by Green_Mountain
Or he could do this.
"President Trump has told us to release all credible evidence…" he wrote. "Therefore, at the direction of Attorney General Bondi, I have communicated with counsel for Ms. Maxwell to determine whether she would be willing to speak with prosecutors from the Department."
“The new outreach to Maxwell marks the first time, according to Blanche, that any administration has approached her legal team with an inquiry into potential cooperation.”
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Release it all or STFU.
trump doesn't get to decide which evidence is "credible" and which is not. Besides, ALL evidence, by its very nature, is credible. Otherwise, it wouldn't be considered evidence.
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Today, 01:03 PM
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Mr. Prove it says he's exempt from proving anything . Ho hum. Not surprised. Also- "prove that there is anything damning in there about 47", but don't include the photos, the personal letters to JE from DJT and the hand drawn note, with "may everyday be a wonderful secret", ....surely you know that TRUMP knows of Epsteins follies. And if you knew and did nothing, you are as complicit as those who did the deeds. Which is EXACTLY the fallout that Trump and likely MANY MANY other's are afraid of.
They may not have be participator, or facilitator, but they surely were spectators; and thus by knowing about it, are also complicit about it.
Same way you RedHats are saying that if you knew Joe B. was out of it, and didn't do / or say something, your conspired to facilitate not reporting.
You see, when there is a Prove me wrong, empirical evidence only, you've already passed up on the circumstantial portion which is EXACTLY how Epstein got caught. They didn't find a blue dress with splooge on it.
Finally you asked about logical or credible reason; it is all circumstantial and only moronic RED HAT leaders condemn people and blast their opponents with both labels and assertions of 100% certainty. Maybe Joe and company didn't think they could ethically call that about Donald due to his litigious nature, or they didn't have all the facts then.
Maybe they decided to not make the entire campaign be about negative smears only- I don't see Joe B. ever doing that kind of thing, but surely Trump would- even on a Sunday after church. Maybe, the juice wasn't worth the squeeze to Joe or Kammy. Maybe they thought it would sound hypocritical with Hunter's laptop, or with the tax issues etc. None of which makes DJT any less implicated or knowledgeable of what happened on that island. What is certain- is that Trump and Epstein ran in similar circles and circumstances- and Trump knew of his pension for (foribidden topic).
That alone tells you enough to know that DJT who knew of these activities - no matter how long ago,- did NOTHING to refer him to the proper authorities.
If you saw the crimes happening and didn't report it, you could be liable for charges, depending on your relationship to the victim, but certainly no-one is saying it's not a violation of ETHICS. But since when didn't DJT violate ethics on any and EVErY Scale.
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