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Old 03-07-2026, 08:52 PM   #136
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Trump is deranged, that is for sure. Time to put him out to the pasture.
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Could you imagine Trump playing the part of FDR in 1940.

The lend lease act would never have happened. Bringing the country together to confront the axis powers after the attack on Pearl Harbor. Could you imagine a Trump fireside chat?

Some in this thread see fit to call democrats cowards and appeasers. Maybe we just recognize the Massive failings of our commander in chief.

A dumber more divisive and corrupt individual would be really difficult to find. Is it any wonder that his actions are the cause for deep dread to anyone with the brains to recognize the flaws in his administration.

Polling numbers certainly show that he doesn’t have the confidence of the electorate in this matter. Insults to our character certainly won’t bring the country together. Trump would be better off trying to convince the public of the righteousness of his actions. Some how I doubt he will or is capable of doing so.
Actually I can. Reading history, FDR would be considered very trumpian.
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Could you imagine Obama playing the part of FDR in 1941.
FTFY. Remember this famous cartoon? Thanks for reminding me of it!


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Is Iran on the Brink of Another Revolution?

The regime faces a crisis like never before, historian Ali M. Ansari explains, and the nation has an 120-year tradition of fighting to establish the rule of law.


By Elliot Kaufman
March 6, 2026 3:59 pm ET


Everywhere you look, there’s another expert to tell you what won’t happen—what can’t happen—in Iran. Regime change is impossible. Never mind the mass protests of January; the regime has the guns and is willing to use them. Never mind the airstrikes on leaders and thugs; you can’t topple a regime from the air. Trust the political science.

Ali M. Ansari has a different view. “I’m a firm believer in what Hannah Arendt says: Revolutions are impossible before they happen and inevitable after they happen.” Prof. Ansari, 58, is a historian at Scotland’s University of St. Andrews, where he directs the Institute for Iranian Studies. His 2024 book, “Iran,” is the best primer available on the nation’s modern history. He worries that social scientists and international-relations types “have become so wedded to their templates that they can’t see” what has happened inside Iran.

“The vast majority of people are struggling. The political system is hated. The economic system isn’t delivering,” he says in a video interview. Salaries “no longer meet the basic needs of life. There’s an environmental crisis—they’ve drained the water table. And now, they have an international crisis.” That’s putting it mildly.

“Every crisis you can think of, the Islamic Republic is facing,” Mr. Ansari says. “People tell me, ‘Oh, but it’s strong and stable.’ Well, it can’t be that strong and stable because people are rebelling every few years, and on a scale the regime deems existential.” Regime supporters, whom Mr. Ansari pegs at 10% to 20% of the population, “are convinced they are going to defeat the U.S. in this war.” He pauses: “They are not going to do it.”

The professor stresses humility. We don’t know if the regime will fall. But he doesn’t buy the claim that the protest movement was crushed for good in January—and not only because the U.S. and Israel are creating a new opening.

“The regime carried out such a mass slaughter that it actually proved counterproductive,” he says. “If they had suppressed it with, say, ‘only’ the 3,117 dead that they claim, it might have succeeded.” But having killed “10,000, 15,000, 20,000 of your own in the random manner that they did—and shooting people in hospital beds—it creates an anger that is difficult to suppress.” Students had resumed protesting before the airstrikes began on Feb. 28.

The analogy to China’s 1989 Tiananmen Square massacre fails for a variety of reasons. For one, Beijing had something to offer its people: “ ‘Yes, we’ve politically suppressed you, but we’ve bought you off with economic success, and we’re now going to be a superpower.’ In Iran, what are they offering? All the regime can say to Iranians is, ‘You are going to have a great time in heaven when you get there.’

Besides, we already heard, after Iran’s brutal repression of protests in 2019 and again in 2022, “that the protest movement had decided going out on the streets isn’t worth it, because ‘all we do is get shot,’ ” he says. “Then suddenly, this burst on the scene in January,” more rebellious than ever. Pulling back the lens reveals the “accelerated means of protests—mounting, mounting, mounting”—a “persistent and recurring tendency to protest and try to fight for their liberty.”

This is one legacy of the 1906 Constitutional Revolution, which won for Iran a “liberal constitution in the Anglo-American tradition” and established the ideal, if not the practice, of the rule of law. While the 1979 Islamic Revolution steals the spotlight, 1906 has “had a much more profound impact on political ideas and activism,” Mr. Ansari argues in his 2024 book. This tradition remains a live alternative. Iran is no nation-building project but a real nation with a modern state that the ayatollahs inherited from the shahs.

Textbooks say the Islamic Revolution started in January 1978, with an article in Ettelaat newspaper that insulted Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini. It sparked protests, “but I can tell you,” Mr. Ansari says, “nobody noticed at the time that the revolution had started.” He remembers going to the cinema in Tehran as a 10-year-old in April 1978 to see “The Spy Who Loved Me,” the James Bond film, dubbed in Persian. “This, in the middle of a revolution? I don’t think so,” he says.

Mr. Ansari—the son of an Iranian ambassador and a distant cousin of Farah Pahlavi, the shah’s widow—was sent off to boarding school in the U.K. in June 1978, “which was fairly good timing.” He returned to Iran to do academic fieldwork in the 1990s and wrote his thesis on the political myths constructed by the Pahlavi dynasty (1925-79) to legitimize its rule.

Mr. Ansari worked hard in subsequent years to encourage Iran and the West to have a more constructive relationship. But the Islamic Republic has spurned the Anglo-American ideals of 1906 and even the French ideals that informed the 1979 revolution. Instead of anchoring a modern republic in Iran’s Shiite tradition, as the revolutionaries had promised, “the supreme leader became a sort of religious monarch,” Mr. Ansari says. Parliament was rendered “an empty shell.”

When I raise the media speculation that Iran could now devolve into a security state run by the Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps, Mr. Ansari can’t hold back: “It already is!” And this isn’t the early IRGC, with its “brotherhood in arms and no ranks,” he says. “It became a business conglomerate and a political force gradually”—and then suddenly. Under President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad (2005-13), auditing bodies were dismantled and many state assets transferred to the IRGC. By one assessment, $800 billion in revenue went missing.

“A lot of them in the IRGC made a lot of money,” Mr. Ansari says, “and they don’t want to lose it all.” That’s now a stronger motivation to fight than old revolutionary fervor: “I don’t think the IRGC is some sort of homogenous, unified, ideologically coherent unit of hundreds of thousands of men.” (That figure includes the basij paramilitary.)

The core group may be driven “by a sort of Shia millenarianism, devoted to Khamenei as a cult,” Mr. Ansari says, “but it’s not an organization that doesn’t fray at the edges and have a variety of views on the periphery and different groups within.” If the U.S. and Israel grind down the regime, throwing into question its ability to repress the people, he expects some IRGC factions to split off.

Others will fight on as a matter of personal survival. Defectors have been promised amnesty, but the Revolutionary Guards know Iranians will have difficulty forgiving them. “The last shah lost his nerve,” Mr. Ansari says, “but many of his supporters also had places to go. They escaped to the U.S. and Europe. Where are these guys going to go?”

Americans’ temptation to reach an agreement with the regime works in the ayatollahs’ favor. “You can make any number of deals with the Islamic Republic of Iran,” Mr. Ansari says. “They will all be interim. Nothing will last.” Consider the nuclear talks that preceded the war. Mere weeks after “probably the most appalling slaughter of Iranians by their government in 200 years,” Mr. Ansari says, “we get into negotiations, and suddenly, we’re all talking about centrifuges and the Iranians have stolen the narrative.” That polarized the U.S. discussion along partisan lines, ensuring that almost all Democrats would oppose the eventual war.

The West typically errs in “fighting on terrain chosen by the regime,” Mr. Ansari says. President Obama began by accepting that Iran’s problems were ultimately America’s fault. Then, when Iranian protests broke out in 2009 over a stolen election, Mr. Obama “served notice, to all who could hear, that a nuclear settlement... trumped the rights of individual Iranians,” Mr. Ansari writes in his 2024 book. The deal’s salesmen claimed that resolving the clash with the U.S. would set Iran on a path to political liberalization. “The reality was that Iran’s approach to its international relations would be dictated by domestic politics, which were hardening by the day.”

The U.S. military option, supposedly “on the table” as a threat to Iran’s regime, instead became a weapon against American opponents of a nuclear deal. The agreement was “reasonable” on its face, Mr. Ansari says, “but people treated it as if it were some sort of holy grail.” It ended up restraining America, not Iran. In Syria, “the Russians and Iranians piled in and half a million Syrians died in that war.” Mr. Obama didn’t intervene for fear of upsetting Iran and scuttling the nuclear deal. “The agreement was meant to tie Iran’s hands,” he says, “not tie your own hands.”

When President Trump quit the Obama deal in 2018, Mr. Ansari recalls, “we in the West were all saying, ‘Oh my God, isn’t Trump a son of a bitch?’ But most Iranians didn’t care. They hadn’t seen any benefit from the deal.” The regime dithered rather than take steps necessary for U.S. economic engagement.

For Iranians, the real story was 2009, when hope for domestic political reform died. “But of course we miss that in the West,” Mr. Ansari says. “We’re so fixated on what we think we’re doing about security and nuclear—which has its place—that we don’t understand what’s going on inside the country.

For the same reason, some in the West are now “bewildered that young Iranians will cheer because the Americans have started bombing them,” he says. “What they want is a better life. A normal life. They want to be able to travel to America or study there.”

This gets at the main problem Mr. Ansari sees with Western analysis: “We fail to give the Iranians agency in what they do.” When Iran’s economy is in shambles, the reflex is to blame U.S. sanctions. “That doesn’t explain why the Iranians have mismanaged their water. It doesn’t tell you why, well before the real sanctions arrived in 2011-12, they were never able to get any foreign direct investment into the country. Now, why is that?” he asks. “It’s internal. It’s the corruption, the kleptocracy, the short-termism, the opaqueness, the lack of accountability, the uncertainty.” Sanctions didn’t make life easier, he says, but they didn’t befall Iran. They were a consequence of the regime’s behavior.

Today’s war is another example. “We are here in many ways because the Iranians have been chanting ‘Death to America’ for 47 years. I used to say, ‘I don’t think this is helpful.’ ” Western interlocutors and intermediaries would respond that the regime didn’t really mean it. “Well, if they don’t mean it, then don’t say it. Stop. But they never would,” he says. “To be honest, I think they got away with things for so long that they got used to it.”

They didn’t count on a president who would break from standard operating procedure, whom they couldn’t stall until the next U.S. election. Mr. Ansari says Iran had every chance to avert war. But it lost Europe by siding with Russia in Ukraine, and it refused to make a plausible offer when Mr. Trump returned to office. “The longer they waited, the worse it got. They could’ve gotten a deal six months ago. But when ships are waiting outside, the asking price goes up.”

The regime insisted throughout on a “right to enrich uranium”—which “would have more credibility if they respected any other rights as well,” Mr. Ansari cracks. “We often think of the Iranians as very strategic thinkers, playing the long game. No, no. It’s different. They’re ditherers,” he says. “We ascribe to them too much competence. I do not consider what’s happening now to be the result of great strategic thinking.” He points to a “dogmatic ideology and a grievance culture, whereby they’ve taken a hit for their nuclear program and can’t back down.” In his assessment, by sheer stubbornness, the regime “basically decided to declare war on the U.S.”

The failure to see that, and so much else, can be attributed to the prevailing “Washington-centered analysis,” Mr. Ansari says. “We always see Iran as almost marginal to the problem, which is Washington.” If only Mr. Trump hadn’t done this or that, the commentators rage. But if there is now an opening for regime change, it is because U.S. policymakers for once were able to turn from the mirror and see what the Iranian people know well: The problem is in Iran.

Mr. Kaufman is a member of the Journal’s editorial board and a co-author of “In the War Room: The Inside Story of Israel’s Fight Against Hamas and the Iranian Axis,” forthcoming in September.


https://www.wsj.com/opinion/is-iran-...tion-463f7be3?
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So who pushed this? Netanyahu or the fat fucking fascist felon?

Shirley it isn’t about oil. We just stole all we need from Venezuelaaa.

Wonder what the vote was in Congress.
The melange one was played, AGAIN.
Another reason why we are the laughing stock of the world.
Except now, the world takes a different eye to us because of what a petulant child has done.

I have made note in the past about the failing mental faculties donny has and who he would truly be dangerous if he started to finger the Biscuit. Reminding me of a senile, off the rails Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone.


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It’s a quagmire with no combat forces (that we know of) on the ground, 12 hours after it started? Are you aware of that word’s definition?
So, you are stating that he is declaring war?

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I look forward to… what I predict will be….your unquestioning opposition to this, no matter what happens….
To declaring this war?

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Yes, Trump just started a war with no endgame. And Americans will be killed in a stupid and avoidable military action, which Trump is already bragging about. Trump just put us back into the snake pit…..

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world...ei-washington-

elg……
We've always sucked at the end game.

But for this current cluster fuck to be unleashed on those in the region....the guy is either a meglomaniac or he has finally went full on tapioca in the head.

Doesn't matter which. Maggies will be just like what some of them call the bombed Iranian leaders, leading us and possibly the world over the brink of destruction.

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You can bet it's Israel 100%.
Of course it was them. They have their hands out for our $$$$ and the maggies don't care. They have an opportunity for someone else to die instead of them and they went with it. And donny is so stupid they were able to manipulate him to do their bidding.

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I'd agree, but regardless we're stuck now. I don't really see an easy outcome of this like the clueless in charge think will happen - lobe some missiles, maybe a few sorties with the bombers and then the population overthrows a deeply entrenched government.

Let's say it happens, then what?? Does he think they'll have an election and install someone who loves Israel and America? Sure, I believe that's just around the corner in Iran...right after North Korea becomes a democracy. Or just another authoritarian leader who will plot revenge? Which is more likely?

Pull back and leave the current admin in place? I'm sure they won't go after Israel, or our bases and troops in the area and cause American casualties. Oh wait, they've done that before.


Two criminals doing anything to keep their own asses out of jail, and could care less about the lives of their soldiers that it will cost.
Yup. Two leaders trying to distract the people from the illegal shit they are caught up in and don't care what they do or who dies to throw the voters off the trail.

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You realize that casualties can be taken in other ways than a bayonet charge, no? There’s these things called bombs that blow up and hurt people. They can even be strapped onto these other things called planes and missiles that fly through the air, blowing up people and property that’s far, far away.
You realize that casualties can be taken in other ways than a bayonet charge, no? There’s these things called maggie mindset and hurt people. They can even be strapped onto these other things called lies that fly through the airwaves, blowing up people idea of reality and has affects that’s far, far away.

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This whole scenario right now is Bible Prophecy coming to fruition. Russia will eventually get involved to aid Iran. It's basically the onset of WW3. As things progress there will be vast blood and destruction.
From what i've heard (but not bothered to substantiate) they are letting the Iranians know about our military assets in the area currently. And if another poster here is correct, that might be why Iran is letting Russian maritime vessels have passage.

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Pretty much, Trump just started World War III. This will go down in history as American aggression led by Trump.

Our standing in the world has been demolished by Trump, and he now has us in a quagmire that will last decades.

elg…..
And the Ultimate Big Election Lie of not starting wars or nation building blasted to hell.

But maggies don't care. As their minions on this site have stated, they care not for the facts or truth.

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Are you always this premature? The battle plan looks sound. Command and control.

I remember how hot damn the democrats were after 9\11. I didn't think it would last and it didnt. Within six months the democrats were against any military action and if you believed them, they always had been.

So, I leave this question to the feckless left...what would you have done? Allow Iran to get nukes, to bully everyone in the area, to provide material aid for more terrorism?
How is it sound? donny claimed we totally annihilated their means of making a nuke. Sumptin' ain't right, Willis.

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Actually the person to blame is Jimmy Carter. He dealt with Arafat and raised his profile from murderous terrorist to diplomat. He cut off aid to the Shah and he forced the Shah to allow Khomeini to leave Paris for Iran. The rest is bloody history brought to you by the godfather of modern terrorism, James Earl Carter Jr.

Trump is just cleaning up another democrat mess.
So what if he cut off aid to the Shah? That guy had a jillion $$$$ stashed away. He didn't have to let Khomeini in. I heard that his fellow dictator in Iraq offered to bop off Khomeini but he turned him down.

Carter did not force regime change. Hell, he was nice enough to host the Shah here in the good ol' US of A.

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Khamenei = Dead

Great work by President Trump, Secretary Hegseth and the rest of our armed forces.
So, you saying this is regime change?

We know maggies don't care about broke election promises. So don't be afraid to answer the question.

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It’s a win already. Iran’s leadership has been eviscerated and citizens are in the streets doing the electric boogaloo.
They have been doing the bit in the streets without us. You heard them, right? Getting mowed down showing their displeasure with the leadership.

Iranians did not ask us to initiate regime change. *BUT* they would like are support when *THEY* do it. They don't work on our time table.

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Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians and protestors have already been slaughtered....with their families having to pay for the bullets that killed them.
The affirmitive (?) action supporter avatar does not seem to know that.

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Until someone puts up a workable alternative, the postings are only blabbering and armchair quarterbacks.
Exactly. Not one person in the WH and down can give a straight answer, and hence lie, about what the reasoning of what they are doing.

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And...subsequent video evidence it came from a malfunctioning Iranian missile that went up and came down on top of that school.
Seems multiple sources have discounted what you say and show it was not random by any stretch of the imagination. And seeing that the USA was handling the south side of Iraq, i'm waiting for the administration to take responsibility for this "mistake".

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amusing the fake angst over this non illegal war which isn't a war. amusing.



bahahahahaa
So, what is the clear cut reasoning for starting this and what is the end game objective?

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Yes I am serious and you are the one who is not familiar with Iran history under the Shah


How old are you?

Were you not born yet or were you born already but too young to know about it or remember?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWrcP6ruJ6k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWrcP6ruJ6k
Under any dictatorship, if you keep the people happy....

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None of you had problems when Obama did this or even that cocksucker Bush and his equally shitty father, using the same pricks like Cheney and Rumsfeld and the biggest baby killer of them all, Colin Powell the cocksucker
Can you provide a link when Obama and Bush bombed Iran.

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The only reasonable post in this entire thread. If Trump was smart he would head to capitol hill and see about getting congress onboard. But he certainly won’t and he will neuter his own party in congress.
Yupper. He has all branches of the government under his thumb.

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No, never been there.
It was a great place. The people are the most hospitable in the world.


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I am a child of the Viet Nam era. I am a parent of a son who fought at Fallujah. I am wary of this stuff.

Yet, the leadership of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard and the Ayatollah there all say that their ultimate goal is the destruction of the West including AIsrel, Europe and the USA . . .throught he use of nuclear weapons.

They have been adamant about this and persistent in peering the development of nuclear warheads and intercontinental ballistic missiles tout them on.

Years of negotiations and agreements have not dissuaded them from this path of d=anilation. This is not a discussion of border boundaries. This is not a discussion of fishing rights in the South China Sea. this is not a negotiation of import duties.

This has been and is a matter of the continued existence of the civilized Western world.

At this time, more talk won't keep the Iranians from developing an atomic bomb. that other nations have nuclear weapons is orrelavent, me-too-ism. The Indians and Pakistanis have nbeen nuclear capable for decades but both know that nuclear war is not productive. The Iranian Mullahs actually want to end the world and don't care if they go with it.
But we just bombed the beejeebers out of their nuclear program and donny said it was successful.

And my respect to your son and what he has seen and done for this country.

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I argue that it begins....

When a Fascist who said "no new wars!" starts yet another one in one of the most unstable places on the planet.

When the Fascist cannot consistently articulate any clear reasons for starting it, nor clear objectives to end it.

When 10's of millions of his worshippers support this, no questions asked.

When some supporters pose weird, simplistic "questions" to illustrate poorly thought out rationale.

And when the dog...uses the angry neighbor's gun...

To shoot himself to escape this mindless idiocy.

.
Roo, you know maggies don't care about the lies Fearless Leader spouts. They just act as sheeple.

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Just more insults and whining from the lefties here. It's all they have since they don't understand anything pertaining to reality. Nor do they have any proof of their ridiculous claims. Your support for terrorists is noted. Continue to embarrass yourselves and make yourselves look worse than we ever could.
So, clear it up to the libbies. What was the reason, objective, and end game to what the reprobate in chief did?

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I think he was played by Bibi, though I don't disagree with you.
That seems to be the most solid fact given here.

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The quagmire continues…….now they are spinning the fact that they have no endgame for this idiotic war.

“As the Middle East tumbles into uncertainty, it’s unclear what the administration’s endgame is, who Iran’s next successor could be or even when the war might end….”


https://www.politico.com/news/magazi...table-00812016

elg…
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So, let’s recap.

Spending money on Ukraine is a waste of taxpayer money but spending a billion dollars a day attacking Iran is a spend worthy investment.

Does anyone else think this is a total waste of taxpayer money besides me.
Seeing donny said the nuke program was obliterated recently, yes. It is a waste of $$$$. Let Israel handle it with the $$$$ we give them.

Russia moving with expansionist ideas it got from China, that is a threat. *EXCEPT* the fat orange fuck in office wants to do the same thing.

The guy is truly what maggies claimed joey was, totally gone in the coconut. Except seeing joey at JJ funeral, he was ahelluvalot sharper than donny is on his best day.

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There’s really any doubt that today’s Dem party would be marching in the streets with Hands off Hitler and Hirohito signs?
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thoughts on bombing Iranian fuel depots? does that get us deeper into a quagmire? does it help us achieve any strategic objectives, or in any sense, avoid a quagmire?

i'm not sure that makes any sense. this exacts a penalty on Iranian civilians who may have zero involvement with the regime. can you imagine trying to breathe if you happen to live close to one of these fuel storage sites that are now raging infernos?

is this really necessary?
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