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Old Today, 12:24 PM   #136
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... See? ... The Strait is OPEN. ... Success for America!
Iran rolled over. ... Good thing to have a cease-fire and
framework for a good agreement. ... Safer for the whole world. ..

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Old Today, 02:19 PM   #137
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i'll believe it 100% when the first oil tanker actually transits the Strait without a destroyer escort..

i think there is less than unanimity in Iran on the matter..

i'll take the over 10 days if any maggies wanna bet the under for 1g..
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Old Today, 03:01 PM   #138
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The war is over. Trump and Heggy may claim we’ll start back bombing but in reality, it won’t happen. ...
We should know in under a week. AmmIrite?

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Old Today, 03:45 PM   #139
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Which of the below set of conditions were agreed to, herein?

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Trump: Iran ‘Agreed to Everything’ Including Reopening the Strait of Hormuz and Not Enriching Uranium
Nick Gilbertson17 Apr 2026

President Donald Trump said Friday that Iran “agreed to everything” in negotiations with the United States following a news-packed morning that included the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz.

Trump made the comments to NewsNation’s Kellie Meyer, who called the president after he announced the reopening of the Strait of Hormuz, declaring that the United States will retrieve enriched uranium from sites bombed in Operation Midnight Hammer last June.

Trump said, “Yes,” when Meyer asked if Iran agreed to stop enriching uranium.

“They agreed to everything,” he told her.

When Meyer asked him if he was surprised, he said, “I’m not surprised by anything,” and soon ended the call.

During negotiations last week in Islamabad, the Iranian regime refused to agree with the U.S. delegation of Vice President JD Vance, Special Envoy Steve Witkoff, and Jared Kushner on six key redlines.

A U.S. official told Breitbart News these redlines included allowing for the retrieval of highly enriched uranium, dismantling all major nuclear enrichment facilities; ending all uranium enrichment; accepting a broader peace, security, and de-escalation framework that includes regional allies; fully opening the Strait of Hormuz, charging no tolls for passage; and ending funding for terrorist proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis.

Vance left after giving a final offer, which he was hopeful that the Iranians, after reflection, would find in the best interest of both parties, the official said.

“We leave here with a very simple proposal, a method of understanding that is our final and best offer. We’ll see if the Iranians accept it,” Vance said before departing.

Trump, who implemented a U.S. naval blockade of the Strait of Hormuz, underscored the Strait of Hormuz agreement in a Truth Social post.

“THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ IS COMPLETELY OPEN AND READY FOR BUSINESS AND FULL PASSAGE, BUT THE NAVAL BLOCKADE WILL REMAIN IN FULL FORCE AND EFFECT AS IT PERTAINS TO IRAN, ONLY, UNTIL SUCH TIME AS OUR TRANSACTION WITH IRAN IS 100% COMPLETE,” he wrote...
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...Here is the US’s ‘red line’ list according to Semafor:
  • End all uranium enrichment
  • Dismantle all major nuclear enrichment facilities
  • Retrieve highly enriched uranium
  • Accept a broader peace, security and de-escalation framework that includes regional allies
  • End funding for terrorist proxies Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis
  • – Fully open the Strait of Hormuz, charging no tolls for
passage...
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  • A full and permanent end to all “hostilities” (read: no more accountability for attacking U.S. interests or choking global oil supplies)
  • Immediate lifting of all crippling U.S. economic sanctions
  • Establishment of a new “security framework” in the region that would neuter America’s allies and legitimize Iran’s terror proxies
  • Ironclad guarantees for “safe passage” through the Strait of Hormuz — under Iranian terms, of course
  • Massive Western-funded reconstruction commitments to repair the damage from their own provocations
  • No restrictions whatsoever on Iran’s nuclear weapons program
  • An end to any curbs on its ballistic missile development
  • U.S. withdrawal of forces from key areas of the Persian Gulf
  • Reparations payments for “damages” caused by Trump’s targeted strikes
  • Formal recognition of Iran’s “legitimate” influence across the Middle East (including its Hezbollah, Houthis, and Hamas terror networks)
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^^the sad truth is you can't take anything Trump says at face value..

the way it looks to me is the party desperate to end the war is actually Trump, not Iran. when JD comes back empty handed from his 2nd trip to Pakistan, the only person/party who will look silly will be DJT. why else has Iran said nothing when Trump brags that Iran now agrees to all the U.S 's terms? it's obvious that statement is patently false..

but credit is due to Trump for getting Iran to even claim the Strait is open, even if it's still not safe for oil tankers to transit freely. (if it was, they'd already be doing it..)
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^^the sad truth is...the way it looks to me is the...
...Artemis II isn't the only thing that is/was headed to the moon.
So are the EU and US markets, except for OIL and the VIX. Oil is heading towards $80 a barrel ATM.

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...why else has Iran said nothing when Trump brags that Iran now agrees to all the U.S 's terms? it's obvious that statement is patently false...
Oh, is it really?!?
Of course, I wouldn't trust the Iran regime if they said I could have their 72 virgins either...
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Old Today, 06:30 PM   #143
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^^we'll know soon enough if Iran accepted all of Trump's demands..

he'll be lucky to even half of that, imo..
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We’re gonna just call it done and move on. Just need the strait reopened, a few unenforceable promises from Iran to Never Ever seek a nuke and it’s all water under the bridge.

I guess they can be trusted to not cheat now or to not fund their terrorist proxies any longer.

Oh, and we’re freeing up another 20 Billion to give them.

To limit uranium enrichment was/is enforceable. Have something similar to the JPCOA where Iran can not enrich Uranium past 3.67% U-235. You can have monitoring 24/7 in real time plus inspections by IAEA, to make sure they are not using thousands of centrifuges to spin Uranium. They have the know how to enrich Uranium. That was proven when Trump ended the JCPOA agreement in 2018. They enriched the Uranium up to 60% U-235 and had enough for about 8-10 rockets. If verification is not in place you could have the same scenario in another 10 - 15 years.
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