Respect ...

[AmishGangster]

Originally Posted by DDarkness

if we could be more civil it will go along way to helping more people enjoy the board!

DD

That is nothing more than your unsubstantiated opinion. It may allow "different" people to enjoy but you certainly have zero proof that it would cause "more" people to enjoy it.

In fact I speculate that LESS people would enjoy it because the post count would drop substantially, the info would drop, then the review counts drop, then the ads drop, then Upset becomes Vermont. I speculate that the people who truly WANT that type of forum have already sought it out elsewhere.

I'll riddle you this...tell me if you can truly deny it with a straight face:

What is the #1 reason uncivil posters check in? To see what uncivility was posted. To enjoy and laugh at it.

What is the number #1 reason the people who hate uncivil posters check in? To see what uncivility was posted. To whine and complain about it.

[FlyboyNY]

So points were awarded during this dialogue? Hmmmm. Smells like a setup. Kind of like the ongoing discussion I have with the policemen around here. We all know that handing out tickets has little to do with making the roads safer but the main goal is to take our money of which they need so desperately. When I say this to any police officer they get pissed off. So I say "if your main goal is to keep people from rolling through the intersection or going over the speed limit. Why do you hide? Just park in plain sight and I guarantee people will slow down or come to a complete stop." So for a Mod to start a controversial thread then give points (whether he did or his partners) seems to be like the cop behind the bushes. Remember also that bringing drama to the board is a marketing strategy for some.
"If I let you stay and fuck me will you respect me in the morning?"

[Guest072323]

Ya know that XY BBFS thread kind of died without XY around.....

So let me respectfully thank derkness for creating this new playground for us.....

[dearhunter]

Civil point of order: It appears the osd is demanding some kind of supreme directive between parties. Modtards do not have the authority to legislate local civility with arbitrary supreme directives. A supreme directive comes from higher up the food chain.......I know of what I speak (I have one issued to me from St. C).

[pyramider]

Always respect the taint because the taint is the key to happiness and enlightenment.

[Wakeup]

That prick deerhunter threw you under the bus...

[Doove]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

I don't quite know how moderators fall into the trap of thinking that "negativity" and disrespect" hurt the board, or drive people off from posting.

Seems like it's always the same people who get defensive whenever this topic comes up.

Interesting, that.

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

That prick deerhunter threw you under the bus...

that's entertainment
so what

[dearhunter]

Would it be disrespectful to note that it was a short bus?

[Guest072323]

Originally Posted by Doove

Yup, once the Queen Bee shows up, here comes the rest of the hive.

Originally Posted by dearhunter

Civil point of order: It appears the osd is demanding some kind of supreme directive between parties. Modtards do not have the authority to legislate local civility with arbitrary supreme directives. A supreme directive comes from higher up the food chain.......I know of what I speak (I have one issued to me from St. C).

Originally Posted by pyramider

Always respect the taint because the taint is the key to happiness and enlightenment.

Originally Posted by Wakeuр

That prick deerhunter threw you under the bus...

'bout time the rest of the crew showed up.
According to Dove you are late....
Respectfully speaking of course... can't get off topic....
I already got a deuce from Armor for saying krill once....


Carp.... edit add:
I go back to find the original Dove comment and five people jump in between.....

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by dearhunter

Would it be disrespectful to note that it was a short bus?

na, you know I'm nuts

[dearhunter]

Originally Posted by offshoredrilling

na, you know I'm nuts

This can be a learning moment for DD and all of the respectful Upset NY crowd.......

Wakeup made a simple comment that everyone could see. But, not everyone interpreted it the same way.

osd took it to mean that I (deerhunter play on dearhunter) threw osd under the bus.

Someone else could have construed it to mean that I was throwing a fellow modtard under the bus (revealing modtardville shit......kinda)

I knew that Wakeup was blaming that asshole pussy deerhunter for my supreme directive vacation.

My point in this is that you cannot corral what retards will take from comments on a SHMB. If you don't like what is in a threAD, don't participate in the threAD.

If you are really good at this game, you will know who the "short bus" comment was for........ijs

[offshoredrilling]

Originally Posted by dearhunter

This can be a learning moment for DD and all of the respectful Upset NY crowd.......

Wakeup made a simple comment that everyone could see. But, not everyone interpreted it the same way.

osd took it to mean that I (deerhunter play on dearhunter) threw osd under the bus.

Someone else could have construed it to mean that I was throwing a fellow modtard under the bus (revealing modtardville shit......kinda)

I knew that Wakeup was blaming that asshole pussy deerhunter for my supreme directive vacation.

My point in this is that you cannot corral what retards will take from comments on a SHMB. If you don't like what is in a threAD, don't participate in the threAD.

[J.J. Walker]

Abitmor is these thoughts all on topic? Good lawd I can't get thru it, awful

Originally Posted by greenpeace2014

Hi DD,

A BIG THANK YOU!

As some have noted, many of us prefer not to participate because the board seems to be monopolized by a few animals, JJ Walker among them, always ready with an insulting an mindless comment, including one in response to your own thoughtful request. The moderators should take a strong stand, reprimanding gratuitous garbage, and possibly banning such scoundrels for a time to make a point.

Another issue: banning words such as "hiookers". Wholly unacceptable. Sex workers are immeasurably valuable and since ancient times have been viewed as SACRED. Sacred for reasons to many to adequately convey, but in all societies, from the Assyrians, to India to Japan, SANCTITY was key to the profession of the courtesan.

I can refer to the the Buddhist scriptures, e.g. the Bodhisattva of the Chained Bones, and to innumerable other instances of the "sacred courtesan" in the Buddhist universe, as well as in its parallel streams. For example, the concept of the Nilakantha Shiva, "the Blue-Throated Lord of All That IS" is a trope, describing the voluntary swallowing of poison that was a necessary product of the churning of the 'world ocean' that none else could possibly withstand. Long story short, it fell to the Supreme Sovereign of All That IS to grasp that poison and drink it down, turning the throat blue, an allegory of course, of the nature of society.

If all these ladies did not absorb all our negativities, needs, pain, and hungers UPON themselves, imagine the darkness that would then be thrust upon the world? Hence, they are seen and worshipped as the Blue-throated Shiva. I have been warned by mods, and vilified by the mighty illumined minds here as to why I am a hyprocrite, fool and better gone. I welcome censure by such. However, reality and truth cannot be altered at the behest of a few benighted souls, and I am delighted that DD has finally come out strongly against the tide of garbage flowing out of ECCIE. If some can be BANNED, some more should be as well. Perhaps permanently. I should be happy to be among the latter group, provided some of the very worst also be included.

Ideas have consequences, and so does what we say and think. Animals have limited powers of speech, thought and volition, and hence their culpability is limited as well. Our responsibilities and culpability are without limit. There is no getting around this fact with rudeness and oafish, filthy comeback, that merely emphasize how debased the writer is.

Most of these ladies are doing a punishing job under very high pressure, for very little ultimate material reward. One might say that what they do is an act of pure charity, in most cases, because what they lose in terms of personal well-being is enormously more than what is gained in monetary terms which is negligible [except for a very thin creamy layer]. This can be proven with recourse to stark economics, without getting enmeshed in futile debate.

This is all the more reason to treat our ladies with utmost respect, recognizing their activities as a form of voluntary or involuntary self-sacrifice. Were someone to probe deeply into the nature of cause and effect, there would be even more stupendous elements to be discovered. I am not being supercilious but say this with extreme humility. It is fashionable to dismiss whatever is not understood by attacking it. This is actually demonstrating one's weakness, this mindless aggression, so continuously visible on ECCIE, like a pack of caged mad rats. Perhaps this only applies to 5 or 6 members who have taken over and have practically destroyed the utility of this board with their vileness and idiocy.

This sort of behavior is not noticed on TER, and nor was it found on the erstwhile SEX Guide USA. Presumably, decent human beings inhabit/inhabited those boards too, including the CNY forums, as I can personally attest. So why the psychopathic filth being tolerated to this extent here?

[JohnnyCap]

Originally Posted by DDarkness

JC, Thank you for the analysis! I would be interested in how you did the actual break down though, but my position is NOT that one word is at the crux of civility or respectful dialogues! The issue really is the number of posts and I think that if you use the word 'Whore' as a benchmark that you may be right but I think you will find that if we expand that to include general disrespect, name calling, threats to out, etc. Upstate is much more negative!

As far as the actual breakdown, it was just a five minute exercise allowing me to take a shot at bankers and generally illustrate that your last statement in the quote above is not able to be proven or disproven. I suppose if you have some grant funds, considerable, I could do an in-depth study, but in the end there would still be the subjectivity I mentioned, where a properly whispered "filthy whore" can come across more respectful than a seemingly benign "you done good."

Think about it, do the ladies really want respect? A little, but if you don't at least every so often toss 'em around like a rag doll, or at least challenge them, they ain't going to respect you. I first heard Adam Carolla say it: "Women respect not being respected." And men aren't all that different. Everybody has a line though.