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Old 07-03-2017, 02:41 PM   #166
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No they don't, ....
Only a handful who surface after each atrocity in this country.

If ALL MUSLIMS in this country were OPPOSED TO TERRORISM, in ACTIONS NOT JUST WORDS, then for starters San Bernardino would not have happened....and neither would have the Florida massacre.

And backing up ... neither would have 911.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:06 PM   #167
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David Koresh was fucking 10 year olds, he was a cult leader and a pediophileYour an idiot , 2996 people died on 9/11, not 9,000. There have been more right wing nut attacks then attacks by muslims.
You're lying again, you lib-retarded jackass. FACT: nearly 9,000 people were killed or injured by those hijackers on 9-11, and the fiscal cost -- measured in the hundreds of billions -- was incalculable. And your statement that most such attacks were by people on the right side of the political spectrum is also a lie. The Ft Hood shooter, the D.C. Sniper, the San Bernadino couple, the Tsarnaev brothers, etc., etc., etc., were all Muslims. And it remains that it was Slick Willie the Perjuring Sexual Predator who sent federal agents to the Branch Davidian compound. Koresh did not initiate a "terrorist attack" as you originally claimed.




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By your own standard, The amount of casualties is most important so we are now back to Saudi, aren't we now.
FYI, M T Brain Socket, the main Saudi (the mastermind and financier) in question was living in exile in Afghanistan ... in case you overlooked that little factoid, moron.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:08 PM   #168
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To paraphrase your other post, please show me all of these anti-Muslim right wing nut attacks that are killing more people than died on 9/11 + Orlando + San Bernardino + Fort Hood, etc. You should have something that documents this, no?
Maybe you don't actually know what the word "paraphrase" means.

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anti-Muslim right wing nut attacks that are killing more people than died on 9/11 + Orlando + San Bernardino + Fort Hood,
You see if you had the mind of even a 3rd grader you would know that the comparative number of attacks and the victims per attack are not the same thing.
So here is what I suggest. The next time you want to make a straw man argument run it by one of the guys here that you are always trying to impress.
While I may disagree with Mr MojoRisin quite a bit. He is intelligent. Maybe he will feel sorry for you and give some advice.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:21 PM   #169
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Oh really little chance to take. Then why are the cities of Detroit and Dearborn having numerous reports of Muslims restricting the flow and committing assaults of non Muslims through the streets in and around their neighborhoods? These are just two cities there's others. Muslims are also being reported to be occupying areas of little population and are training with weapons and self defense tactics. The bottom line is we don't need any group Muslim or otherwise behaving in this manner in the United States. The odds of you or any American being killed by a Muslim might be higher than you think since it appears they are out there training to do it.

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Please post links to any websites supporting your statements.

I found the following quickly.

Regarding Muslims in Dearborn. Looks to me to be a model city, unless you can post something to the contrary:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-...b_9328288.html

Regarding Muslims in Detroit:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...dan/102689430/

I could find nothing to support your statement about Muslims restricting flow and committing assaults of non-Muslims or of areas where Muslims are training with weapons and self defense tactics. At least from a reliable source.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:26 PM   #170
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Maybe you don't actually know what the word "paraphrase" means.

You see if you had the mind of even a 3rd grader you would know that the comparative number of attacks and the victims per attack are not the same thing.
Go fuck yourself, MT Jockstrap. Even a 3rd grader knows to paraphrase does not mean to quote verbatim. Do you have a point to make? No, you don't. Otherwise you would have found some data to support the stupid libtard myth that anti-muslim hate crimes are a serious problem in this country, let alone a problem on a par with the real and irrefutable threats we face from muslim terrorism.
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Old 07-03-2017, 03:31 PM   #171
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You deliberately left out my words "in the name of Christianity". Assuming you are a Christian, then any co-religionist who advocates and commits mass murder in the name of Christianity is indeed claiming to reflect your values. So yes, you would - or at least should - be horrified if that happened.
I did not deliberately leave out your word "in the name of Christianity". I would be horrified by the act, but not by the implication that because I am Christian, which I am, I would have to be offended by their statement. In my earlier post, I said I would not be "ashamed" or "apologetic" for their actions and I still would not be. I'm going to be ashamed because some idiots killed others "in the name of Christianity"? I'm going to apologize to others because some idiots killed others "in the name of Christianity"? I don't think so. Christians are not taught to kill. In fact, in my church we are taught to love others, no matter what their religion is or their sexual preference is.
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Old 07-03-2017, 05:09 PM   #172
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Please post links to any websites supporting your statements.

I found the following quickly.

Regarding Muslims in Dearborn. Looks to me to be a model city, unless you can post something to the contrary:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brian-...b_9328288.html

Regarding Muslims in Detroit:

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...dan/102689430/

I could find nothing to support your statement about Muslims restricting flow and committing assaults of non-Muslims or of areas where Muslims are training with weapons and self defense tactics. At least from a reliable source.
Go back to post #165 where I posted three videos. Dearborn and Detroit Mich. have become primarily Muslim cities now. While you are carrying the torch for these people they don't give a shit about you or any other non-Muslim American for that matter. Go to one of these cities and walk around in their business district where store fronts are all done up in Arabic. You don't have to talk to anyone just walk around with a King James Bible in your hand and see how long it takes before you get your ass jumped. I am willing to bet it won't be long. I don't know why you're trying to buck my stance on these things. Iam just putting out the facts. Muslims have made it quite clear they aren't interested in America and Americans or American Christian values. They are coming here with only one goal in mind and that is to instill their values on us.

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Old 07-03-2017, 06:03 PM   #173
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Go back to post #165 where I posted three videos. Dearborn and Detroit Mich. have become primarily Muslim cities now. While you are carrying the torch for these people they don't give a shit about you or any other non-Muslim American for that matter. Go to one of these cities and walk around in their business district where store fronts are all done up in Arabic. You don't have to talk to anyone just walk around with a King James Bible in your hand and see how long it takes before you get your ass jumped. I am willing to bet it won't be long. I don't know why you're trying to buck my stance on these things. Iam just putting out the facts. Muslims have made it quite clear they aren't interested in America and Americans or American Christian values. They are coming here with only one goal in mind and that is to instill their values on us.

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No. you are giving us your OPINION with little facts to back that opinion up. You assume I'll get my ass jumped if I, a Christian, is on the street in Dearborn? Muslims have made it quite clear they aren't interested in America and Americans? Totally unproven OPINION. Did you read the link I gave on Dearborn? It is from February of 2017.

Your first link is from 2011 put out by an organization called "United West". Here is what I could find out about United West. Tom Trento, the founder, is an obvious bigot. For whatever reasons he has it in for Muslims.

http://www.islamophobia.org/islamoph...ited-west.html

The 2nd link is from 2012 and put out by an organization called "HolyLandCrusaders".I could find absolutely nothing on such an organization. I watched all 11 minutes and did not hear "Sharia Law" mentioned at all. I saw very little that warranted any legal action. Security putting hands on others, yes. Assaulting others, no. I assume when police arrived no arrests were made.

The 3rd link is total nonsense. So what if Dearborn has almost 50% Muslim population? Does that make it worse? The link I supplied on Dearborn points out how the Muslims in the city have helped improve it.

I am not "carrying the torch" for anyone. I treat people as I would want them to treat me. If you want to worry about the Muslim presence in this country you are free to do so. If you want to hate all Muslims in this country you are free to do so.
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Old 07-03-2017, 06:31 PM   #174
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No. you are giving us your OPINION with little facts to back that opinion up. You assume I'll get my ass jumped if I, a Christian, is on the street in Dearborn? Muslims have made it quite clear they aren't interested in America and Americans? Totally unproven OPINION. Did you read the link I gave on Dearborn? It is from February of 2017.

Your first link is from 2011 put out by an organization called "United West". Here is what I could find out about United West. Tom Trento, the founder, is an obvious bigot. For whatever reasons he has it in for Muslims.

http://www.islamophobia.org/islamoph...ited-west.html

The 2nd link is from 2012 and put out by an organization called "HolyLandCrusaders".I could find absolutely nothing on such an organization. I watched all 11 minutes and did not hear "Sharia Law" mentioned at all. I saw very little that warranted any legal action. Security putting hands on others, yes. Assaulting others, no. I assume when police arrived no arrests were made.

The 3rd link is total nonsense. So what if Dearborn has almost 50% Muslim population? Does that make it worse? The link I supplied on Dearborn points out how the Muslims in the city have helped improve it.

I am not "carrying the torch" for anyone. I treat people as I would want them to treat me. If you want to worry about the Muslim presence in this country you are free to do so. If you want to hate all Muslims in this country you are free to do so.
Muslims have done a great job of improving Dearborn for Muslims and for Muslims only. It shouldn't be that way. Dearborn and Detroit are both bankrupt cities. Muslims will surely invest their money and prosper for themselves. It's a time consuming endeavor but it will happen and other broken down cities will follow suit. Take off the rose colored glasses you may gain a better perspective. By the way your articles are one sided and very exaggerated.

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Muslims have done a great job of improving Dearborn for Muslims and for Muslims only. It shouldn't be that way. Dearborn and Detroit are both bankrupt cities. Muslims will surely invest their money and prosper for themselves. It's a time consuming endeavor but it will happen and other broken down cities will follow suit. Take off the rose colored glasses you may gain a better perspective. By the way your articles are one sided and very exaggerated.

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Mebbe " speedy " has taken the place of their usual goat herds and likes being taught " greek " by those muzzies up there ???? Mebbe he'll change his name to T.E. Speedy and write about all of those " pillars " that HE'S had, like T.E. Lawrence ( Lawrence of Arabia ) got when the Turks caught him !
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Mebbe " speedy " has taken the place of their usual goat herds and likes being taught " greek " by those muzzies up there ???? Mebbe he'll change his name to T.E. Speedy and write about all of those " pillars " that HE'S had, like T.E. Lawrence ( Lawrence of Arabia ) got when the Turks caught him !
What people don't seem to realize especially liberals, is immigration is just a word to gain acceptance. What's really going on is infiltration. Muslims coming here from countries that support terrorism don't give a shit about Americans or America. They aren't coming here for a better life that's just an excuse. They are coming here to establish their culture and religion. As more and more cities and states fall victim of bankruptcy Muslims will seize the opportunity to establish themselves in those cities and states. It's not about Muslims living in harmony with Americans but rather Americans living in harmony with Muslims.

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Muslims have done a great job of improving Dearborn for Muslims and for Muslims only. It shouldn't be that way. Dearborn and Detroit are both bankrupt cities. Muslims will surely invest their money and prosper for themselves. It's a time consuming endeavor but it will happen and other broken down cities will follow suit. Take off the rose colored glasses you may gain a better perspective. By the way your articles are one sided and very exaggerated.

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Last I knew investing money and making money on that investment is called CAPITALISM!! When I invest money, I do it for MYSELF. If Muslims or any other group want to move into "broken down cities" like Detroit and Dearborn and benefit from it and have the city benefit from their presence, I am all for it.

Of course the articles I cited are considered one sided by you because they don't support your OPINION. Every article I've read on the subject states that the Muslim community is about the only positive in Dearborn. You obviously did NOT read the article I posted very well because it points out the positive impact that the Muslim community has had on the school district which benefits ALL residents, not just Muslims.

http://www.wxyz.com/muslim-american/...ican-community

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/t...-michigan.html

Unfortunately Islamophobia is alive and well in this country as responses in this thread indicate. Here are some FACTS that might enlighten you just a bit -- if you read it. I really don't care about your views as long as you understand that you are a bigot.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/mus...ion/index.html
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Mebbe " speedy " has taken the place of their usual goat herds and likes being taught " greek " by those muzzies up there ???? Mebbe he'll change his name to T.E. Speedy and write about all of those " pillars " that HE'S had, like T.E. Lawrence ( Lawrence of Arabia ) got when the Turks caught him !
Someday, hopefully but doubtful, you will actually post something that is actually beneficial to a thread and does not include any references to some type of sexual perversion. Lustylad and I exchanged some IMs and he couldn't understand why I thought your posts were by far the worst on this forum. Maybe this post by you will help him understand a little better.
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Last I knew investing money and making money on that investment is called CAPITALISM!! When I invest money, I do it for MYSELF. If Muslims or any other group want to move into "broken down cities" like Detroit and Dearborn and benefit from it and have the city benefit from their presence, I am all for it.

Of course the articles I cited are considered one sided by you because they don't support your OPINION. Every article I've read on the subject states that the Muslim community is about the only positive in Dearborn. You obviously did NOT read the article I posted very well because it points out the positive impact that the Muslim community has had on the school district which benefits ALL residents, not just Muslims.

http://www.wxyz.com/muslim-american/...ican-community

https://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/15/t...-michigan.html

Unfortunately Islamophobia is alive and well in this country as responses in this thread indicate. Here are some FACTS that might enlighten you just a bit -- if you read it. I really don't care about your views as long as you understand that you are a bigot.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/08/us/mus...ion/index.html
Well there you're wrong as usual. I am all for progress. I am just not going to support groups that come here and infringe upon American culture. Oh I definitely agree with some of the notable facts about Muslims. For one they are definitely better educated than most Americans that's why they can come here and be more successful than most Americans. They know how to tweek the system better than we can. I doubt any American could go to an Islamic country and be as successful there as they are here. The main reason ,they guard their culture and their people. America doesn't, our culture is too diverse and too gutless.

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Well there you're wrong as usual. I am all for progress. I am just not going support groups that come here and infringe upon American culture.


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And you have yet to offer any facts to back up your statements. I have.
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