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pensfan123456 · 08-07-2020, 07:52 AM

I once got straight up robbed by a “reputable” provider on Indys. My warning post and review were first questioned, then straight up deleted. Then my vouch status and post history were removed and I had to create a new handle. And trust me that bitch straight up robbed me. So yeah, indys was bullshit. But it was easy. The reviews were just bullshit.

chizzy · 08-07-2020, 08:16 AM

Back in the day, both sites had their good and bad points.you can pretty much say that about any site.
The key to using any site is do your homework and remember one guys 10 rating if a girl, maybe a 4 rating with someone else. Happens all the time. Find guys who seem to have the same type of interest or type of lady and message with them.
I hardly ever schedule with a girl based on a review unless I know the poster and what his idea is of a quality session.

Stay safe

bambino · 08-07-2020, 08:32 AM

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I once got straight up robbed by a “reputable” provider on Indys. My warning post and review were first questioned, then straight up deleted. Then my vouch status and post history were removed and I had to create a new handle. And trust me that bitch straight up robbed me. So yeah, indys was bullshit. But it was easy. The reviews were just bullshit.

Yeah, there was a group of guys there that said many times that they exclusively only saw Indys girls. They were the best and safest. Like lemmings. It was almost cultish. And they were wrong. I used to point it out all the time. Like the guy who got his head bashed with a hammer at Taytum’s place. Then I was either banned or silenced.

berryberry · 08-07-2020, 02:15 PM

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Yeah, there was a group of guys there that said many times that they exclusively only saw Indys girls. They were the best and safest. Like lemmings. It was almost cultish. And they were wrong. I used to point it out all the time. Like the guy who got his head bashed with a hammer at Taytum’s place. Then I was either banned or silenced.

Indeed. Not sure what those guys were thinking. They bought into that best and safest crap the girls and white knights spun over there. Meanwhile, you had thiefs, scam artists like Jesse who took guys for thousands from pre-paid appointments on the way out the door, extortion artists, etc. Plus the white knights with all their fake talk gave some girls over inflated egos and drove up their prices

Now that said, there were some providers who simply posted ads, stayed out of any drama and provided decent service at a fair rate. But then Local 250 (or what was BS's term, the moo-moo mafia I think) got to some of them and coerced them to raise rates.

bambino · 08-07-2020, 02:56 PM

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Indeed. Not sure what those guys were thinking. They bought into that best and safest crap the girls and white knights spun over there. Meanwhile, you had thiefs, scam artists like Jesse who took guys for thousands from pre-paid appointments on the way out the door, extortion artists, etc. Plus the white knights with all their fake talk gave some girls over inflated egos and drove up their prices

Now that said, there were some providers who simply posted ads, stayed out of any drama and provided decent service at a fair rate. But then Local 250 (or what was BS's term, the moo-moo mafia I think) got to some of them and coerced them to raise rates.

Yeah, the Moo Moo Mafia or Local 250. 250 was the going rate and the average weight of the Moo Moo Mafia. MLG was the Local Boss. She got busted after years of preaching screening. PI smacked her down by demoting her to a red square. But she was far past her expiration date by then. She was of no use for him then. SSK who was a young hottie was only charging 200 at the time. BSer was dating her. MLG PMed her blasting her for her rate. Ridiculous. That’s when BSer coined the term, Moo Moo Mafia.

laserface · 08-07-2020, 04:20 PM

The most amusing incident I recall with "Local 250" was when one of them tried to reach out to a relatively new provider (who was actually asking for a reasonable rate) to lean on her to raise her rates - telling her something like, "Don't you understand? If we all charge a high rate, we'll *all* get it!" Except she thought she was PMing the new provider, but ended up posting her message on a public forum...

bambino · 08-07-2020, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by laserface

The most amusing incident I recall with "Local 250" was when one of them tried to reach out to a relatively new provider (who was actually asking for a reasonable rate) to lean on her to raise her rates - telling her something like, "Don't you understand? If we all charge a high rate, we'll *all* get it!" Except she thought she was PMing the new provider, but ended up posting her message on a public forum...

Yeah, what a shit show.

Charley3 · 08-07-2020, 05:19 PM

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And the funny thing is, when Jessi robbed guys on the way out the door, a lot of them were her biggest sycophants. And what’s even nuttier, some said they would give her money again!!!!

I’m surprised she did that. She had a girl next door quality and to leave like that was surprising to me.

tolstoy · 08-07-2020, 05:24 PM

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I’m surprised she did that. She had a girl next door quality and to leave like that was surprising to me.

She also ran a calculated risk because many Indys guys knew her real name and what town she lived in. She was "friendly" enough with enough of her "regular clients" and hobby-people and she let-her-guard-down. I don't know if there were any "consequences" to her exit-plan but she ran a calculated risk in pulling it off....

bambino · 08-07-2020, 05:24 PM

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I’m surprised she did that. She had a girl next door quality and to leave like that was surprising to me.

More like the mother next store. She always had an edge to her. It didn’t surprise me.

tolstoy · 08-07-2020, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by laserface

The most amusing incident I recall with "Local 250" was when one of them tried to reach out to a relatively new provider (who was actually asking for a reasonable rate) to lean on her to raise her rates - telling her something like, "Don't you understand? If we all charge a high rate, we'll *all* get it!" Except she thought she was PMing the new provider, but ended up posting her message on a public forum...

Rates usually "settled" for new girls on Indys, and usually within a month of their debut. And usually new girls stuck with the same rate they debuted with. Not sure what "behind the scenes" action took place to raise or keep rates on Indys. I think the whole run of Indys the range of rates was $200, $250, and $300 an hour. Visiting providers used to remark that too many PGH guys refused to pay more than $300...

What was TOO common was new Indys girls debuting and then Disappearing within a month. Well reviewed girls getting rushed by legions of hobbyist-Degenerates and they could not handle the traffic. I know "hooker-bookers" and Pimps were frowned on at Indys but a lot of those younger girls Needed Management! And not the Joe/Dames4U and his "hovel" type management either!

From ASPD through Indys to the current ECCIE girls did rates ever go above $300? Curiously some Tryst girls who used to be on Indys are now $400. If they can get it then more power to them....

On SA there are girls like one I saw BCD who looked like Avril Lavgine

who charged $150 for two hours to delusionals who think if Elvis' grand-daughter got $1000 in Chicago on Showtime's "The Girlfriend Experience" then she should too. I replied back I never saw the show (I had) and also this is PGH and the "market rates" are $200, $250 and $300. There is more "variability" of rates and "allowances" on SA but even that has settled into the old ASPD, Indys, Eccie $200, 250$ and $300 local market-rate modes. Some things never change....

bambino · 08-07-2020, 07:33 PM

^^ MELTDOWN^^ in progress

tolstoy · 08-07-2020, 07:46 PM

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^^ MELTDOWN^^ in progress

Not really. You are the one obsessing over people's posts. Am I now going to get the Bambino Weird Thread-Stalker Routine like DreamGirl gets...?

bambino · 08-07-2020, 07:51 PM

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Not really. You are the one obsessing over people's posts. Am I now going to get the Bambino Weird Thread-Stalker Routine like DreamGirl gets...?

Actually, you’re harmless. A minor nuisance. Just a waste of bandwidth.

sherman klump · 08-07-2020, 07:54 PM

Looks like I missed a lot!