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Old Yesterday, 01:14 PM   #196
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you guys will be very disappointed with this nothing burger
So, just release everything then? What's the holdup? If trump is indeed innocent, then release them in their entirety and... PROVE IT.

Until he does, he's not acting like an innocent person.
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Old Yesterday, 01:30 PM   #197
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So, just release everything then? What's the holdup? If trump is indeed innocent, then release them in their entirety and... PROVE IT.

Until he does, he's not acting like an innocent person.



it is being released and you'll never get the smoking gun you so desperately want because it doesn't exist.
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Old Yesterday, 04:42 PM   #198
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Don't need a smoking gun. Just want justice for Katie Johnson
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Read the full article at the link below. It contains more than what I posted here.

The epstein survivors speaking out for transparency is, in my opinion, the best reason to release the full documents to the public.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/epstei...bill-1.7624404
'This is not a hoax': Epstein survivors describe sexual abuse as they call for justice and transparency

Women speak out — some for the 1st time — in support of a bill to get all files released

The Associated Press · Posted: Sep 03, 2025 4:22 PM CDT | Last Updated: 2 hours ago


Survivors of Jeffrey Epstein's sexual abuse made their voices heard Wednesday on Capitol Hill, pressuring U.S. lawmakers to force the release of the sex trafficking investigation into the late financier and pushing back against President Donald Trump's effort to dismiss the issue as a "hoax."

In a news conference on the Capitol lawn that drew hundreds of supporters and chants of "release the files," the women shared — some publicly for the first time — how they were lured into Epstein's abuse by his former girlfriend, Ghislaine Maxwell. They demanded that the Trump administration provide transparency and accountability for what they endured as teenagers.

"This is not partisan," said Ashley Rubright, "but this is very political."

The self-described survivor of Epstein and Maxwell said for too long, adult enablers actively turned a blind eye to the abuse going on behind closed doors.

"You know who you are," Rubright said. "As do we."

It was a striking stand as the push for disclosure of the so-called Epstein files reached a pivotal moment in Washington.

Lawmakers are battling over how Congress should delve into the Epstein saga while the Republican president, after initially signalling support for transparency on the campaign trail, has been dismissing the matter as a "Democrat hoax."

"No matter what you do it's going to keep going," Trump said Wednesday. He added, "Really, I think it's enough."

But the survivors on Capitol Hill, as well as at least one of Trump's closest allies in Congress, disagreed. Some of the women pleaded for Trump to support their cause.

"This is not a hoax. We are real human beings. This is real trauma," said Haley Robson, one of the survivors who said she is a registered Republican. She invited Trump to meet with her in person.

"The only reason that I am here is because it feels like the people that matter in this country finally care what we have to say," said Marina Lacerda, an immigrant from Brazil who met Epstein when she was 14 after a friend told her she could make hundreds of dollars for massaging an older man. She said she was forced to work for Epstein until she was 17.

"I had no way out," she said, "until he finally told me I was too old."

Sky Roberts, one of four Republicans — three of them women — have defied House Republican leadership and the White House in an effort to force a vote on their bill. House Speaker Mike Johnson is trying to quash the effort by putting forward his own resolution and arguing that a concurrent investigation by the House Oversight Committee is the best way for Congress to deliver transparency.

Meanwhile, the White House was warning House members that support for the bill to require the Justice Department to release the files would be seen as a hostile act. Rep. Thomas Massie, a Kentucky Republican who is pressing for the bill, said that the White House was sending that message because "they've dug in."

"They decided they don't want it released," he said. "It's a political threat."
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Don't need a smoking gun. Just want justice for Katie Johnson

yes you do need a smoking gun. without evidence you have nothing but your disdain for Trump. and a lot of stories that suddenly came out of nowhere in .. 2016.


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Nah, when you look at his modeling agency and the pagent he bought, the comments about what he got to do during that pagent, his Epstein association... his reluctance to release the docs.

There's enough smoke there that many can be sure there's fire. This is the courts of public opinion afterall
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Old Today, 09:31 AM   #202
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Here's what's goin' down:
33,000 pages of documents, 97% of the files have been released!
Sounds good!
Right?
(It, at least, presents an air of transparency!)
But, it's the other 3% that contains the smoking guns!
Trump/Bondi/Patel/Blanche are protecting the identities of the lecherous billionaires who contributed to Trump's campaigns!
That's what's in the unreleased 3% of the files!
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The DoJ has much more they haven't shared
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Old Today, 04:17 PM   #204
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it is being released and you'll never get the smoking gun you so desperately want because it doesn't exist.
And you know this how? Seriously how? I honestly have no clue what’s in the file. You do?
Is it because Trump says so?
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https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...-compile-list/

Victims of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein said Tuesday they are working together to compile a list of powerful figures connected to the disgraced financier after growing frustrated with the government’s handling of the case.

“A lot of us survivors know we’ve been compiling lists of our own, and we have so many other survivors,” Epstein accuser Lisa Phillips told NBC News in an interview. “Please come forward, and we’ll compile our own list and seek justice on our own.”


That albatross just seems like it’s getting heavier and heavier.
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The unreleased 3% of the Epstein files contains all the smoking guns and will reveal where all the bodies are buried! The heretofore unreleased 3% of the files ... will blow the lid off of everything!
(There's gotta be a very good reason why Bondi/Patel/Blanche will not release the remaining 3%!)
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