The Pre October Surprise

[sportfisherman]

The "Story" is true.It has been confirmed by multiple different outlets including Fox News.

People have heard Trump disparage John McCain,Gen. Kelly,and Gen. Mattis on the news and via his own tweets.This story is sticking and will continue to do so.

The only plan the Dems need is to let Trump and his record play out.The country is a disaster compared to what it was when Trump took over.There is no Surprise , it's been going on 4 years.

The slow and inadequate virus response,the economy is shit,the unemployment is high,his failure on the criminal justice issues is fucked up.

Trump's presidency is a failure.People don't want 4 more years with him.He will be voted out.Fired.

All this bad talk regarding our military is fucked up.There are 2 new books coming out.One by Cohen and one by Bob Woodward.They will have an impact as well.

Do you guys remember any presidency with more "Disgruntled Employees"?

With that much Disgruntledness you got to look at the guy at the top.

Trump will be fired.

[oeb11]

sailor boy - you have regressed and are out of touch with reality
Vote Biden - the last free election ever in america - harris will turn us into a marxist thugocracy.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

The "Story" is true.It has been confirmed by multiple different outlets including Fox News.

People have heard Trump disparage John McCain,Gen. Kelly,and Gen. Mattis on the news and via his own tweets.This story is sticking and will continue to do so.

The only plan the Dems need is to let Trump and his record play out.The country is a disaster compared to what it was when Trump took over.There is no Surprise , it's been going on 4 years.

The slow and inadequate virus response,the economy is shit,the unemployment is high,his failure on the criminal justice issues is fucked up.

Trump's presidency is a failure.People don't want 4 more years with him.He will be voted out.Fired.

All this bad talk regarding our military is fucked up.There are 2 new books coming out.One by Cohen and one by Bob Woodward.They will have an impact as well.

Do you guys remember any presidency with more "Disgruntled Employees"?

With that much Disgruntledness you got to look at the guy at the top.

Trump will be fired.

it's true you believe the story is true. whether the story itself is true is another matter. where is Mattis and Kelly? why aren't they on MSNBC and CNN confirming it?


most people would find that rather suspect. even more so considering it supposedly took place 3 years ago and is only now surfacing in an election year .. and without anyone willing to go on record.


what criminal justice issues? blacks committing crimes and resisting arrest? yeah that's an issue. are you some "white" apologist who condones such things?


the economy was great until this chink virus. do you think Obama could have done any better? Biden??


there is a reason Obama told Biden not to run. told him not to. that popped up on the news radar for about two days then went away. if you are going to blindly accept every unnamed source story critical of Trump are you going to accept that story too? or is that one fake news but the Atlantic is so trustworthy they don't need sources on record to back up anything?

[oeb11]

DPST LSM - this is the usual "anonymous sources" - which means made up fantasy and Lies of the LSM.
SF - get a grip on reality
Or, i can sell you a bridge in Brooklyn cheap and u can live forever on the tolls.

It boggles credulity for anyone to swallow such hypocritical lying crap.

[sportfisherman]

You guys know it's true.Typical Trump talking bullshit.

Bone Spur Donnie ! Belittling McCain who served his country and was captured and tortured.Do you guys agree with Trump ? Do you like guys who weren't captured ?

Several news organizations have confirmed the story. For right now , no sources have been willing to be named. That will probably change.

The Generals will be reluctant because of several factors ; their deference to civilian control of the military,to chain of command,and their hesitancy to inject military into politics.

The economy is not good now.Obama and Biden are not president now or for the virus.

The criminal justice issues and the resultant civil unrest are due to the inordinate number of people of color who are murdered in police custody.They don't make it to the police station as often as whites do.They get choked or shot to death.

Draft Dodgin' Donnie !! Somebody to be proud of. A Whinin' Entitled Coddled Elitist !

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by sportfisherman

You guys know it's true.Typical Trump talking bullshit.

Bone Spur Donnie ! Belittling McCain who served his country and was captured and tortured.Do you guys agree with Trump ? Do you like guys who weren't captured ?

Several news organizations have confirmed the story. For right now , no sources have been willing to be named. That will probably change.

The Generals will be reluctant because of several factors ; their deference to civilian control of the military,to chain of command,and their hesitancy to inject military into politics.

The economy is not good now.Obama and Biden are not president now or for the virus.

The criminal justice issues and the resultant civil unrest are due to the inordinate number of people of color who are murdered in police custody.They don't make it to the police station as often as whites do.They get choked or shot to death.

Draft Dodgin' Donnie !! Somebody to be proud of. A Whinin' Entitled Coddled Elitist !

murdered. if yous say so.

[oeb11]

The LSM and DPST racist marxist leadership does love your adherence to the goebbels propaganda of the DPST party, . sf !

[Jacuzzme]

LOL. Basically nobody believes this horseshit. Pretty much a joke in the army forums I visit.

[Grace Preston]

Um... point of order. Biden is a draft dodger, too. Can't really attack Trump for dodging the draft unless your own guy has clean hands-- and he doesn't.

[oeb11]

Biden has along history of racism. well documented.

trump - nobody is perfect - but not the 'institutional law-enacting racism' of Biden.

Meaningless now - biden can nolonger comprehend the difference between races.

after all - 'I am Joe biden - and -"I decide who be black"!!

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Um... point of order. Biden is a draft dodger, too. Can't really attack Trump for dodging the draft unless your own guy has clean hands-- and he doesn't.

as did Bill Clinton. BushyII joined the air national guard. that's not dodging the draft but it is taking an action not to actually go to Vietnam. remember how Dan Rather embarrassed himself when he tried to smear BushyII?


Dan Rather, Still Wrong After All These Years

The movie ‘Truth’ is as bogus as the original attempt to smear George W. Bush’s wartime service.


https://www.wsj.com/articles/dan-rat...ars-1445295792


The creative minds behind “Truth”—based on a book by the CBS report’s producer, Mary Mapes—have wrapped Mr. Rather and Ms. Mapes in a glow of heroic martyrdom so impenetrable there’s hardly a line not put to its service.


the guy still won't admit it was false and a deliberate smear of BushyII


posters here talk about Trump like he's the only person who didn't want to go to Vietnam where pretty much no one wanted to go. i have several older cousins who did the same as BushyII. one joined the Army national guard before being drafted into the regular Army where he almost certainly would have been sent to Vietnam.


did he serve? yes he did. as did BushyII. but both did what they did to avoid going to Vietnam.


another cousin joined the Navy. and ended up off the coast of Nam anyway but on an aircraft carrier and clearly wasn't in real danger of combat, unless the North Vietnam Navy with their mighty fleet of sampans attacked the Kitty Hawk. bahhaaa

[oeb11]

As the names of the main Communist newspaper and the main Soviet newspaper, Pravda and Izvestia, meant "the truth" and "the news" respectively, a popular saying was "there's no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia".


We are coming to a point that there is no factual truth in the LSM. Nor News either.

Fitting if harris becomes POTUS - the first and Second Amendments will be cancelled.

[Grace Preston]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

as did Bill Clinton. BushyII joined the air national guard. that's not dodging the draft but it is taking an action not to actually go to Vietnam. remember how Dan Rather embarrassed himself when he tried to smear BushyII?

Yup.. and I believe I said elsewhere in the forums that you'll be hard pressed to find a man who came from any sort of middle or upper class upbringing.. that didn't take efforts to either serve in a limited role, or completely dodge Vietnam.



Hell-- Clinton's dodge was teetering on the very razor thin edge of fraud.

[HoeHummer]

Originally Posted by oeb11

As the names of the main Communist newspaper and the main Soviet newspaper, Pravda and Izvestia, meant "the truth" and "the news" respectively, a popular saying was "there's no truth in Pravda and no news in Izvestia".


We are coming to a point that there is no factual truth in the LSM. Nor News either.

Fitting if harris becomes POTUS - the first and Second Amendments will be cancelled.

What’s the Amendment that freed the slaves, Ramoebsy? Yous forgot that one. Women getting to vote? That one too, eh?

And what the actual duck do you think is goings to happen to at least 50 per cent of the Ten Commandments?

DOGS AND CATS. LIVING TOGETHER. MASS HYSTERIA!!!!

Pushing the WSND party line, Ramboebsy!

Not a good look, buddy.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by Grace Preston

Yup.. and I believe I said elsewhere in the forums that you'll be hard pressed to find a man who came from any sort of middle or upper class upbringing.. that didn't take efforts to either serve in a limited role, or completely dodge Vietnam.



Hell-- Clinton's dodge was teetering on the very razor thin edge of fraud.

yeah considering he intentionally misled a ROTC Colonel to avoid getting drafted


https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-...796-story.html