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Old 03-09-2014, 03:26 PM   #16
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I have used it for many years because most of my hobbying occurs when I am traveling. It used to be almost impossible to see a lady in city where you were not known because there were no local references available. So, unless you had some very high profile national references it was challenging. P411 has eliminated that issue completely. I have spoken with many ladies I have met from Miami to Seattle and they all seem to like the service as well. If you only hobby where you live, especially in a large market, it might not be essential, but it's truly not very expensive and saves a lot of grief on the road.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:47 PM   #17
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Investment?

Are you kidding?

. . . It might be a convenience for some, but I expect at least a 20% ROI on my investments and you're not going to get that from providers, (bless their hearts). You'll get a fun ride if you're lucky, but that money spent is not coming back, pal!




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The key is that P411 is an investment. It ain't cheap, but it takes a lot of the guess work out of finding a girl. P411 ladies are usually top of the line in terms of service, reputation and availability. The last one is a key in that P411 lists girls by the last time logged in. If a lady doesn't log in, she goes stale and to the bottom of the list.
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Old 03-09-2014, 03:59 PM   #18
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I'm considering purchasing a membership as it would mitigate the issue of providing references. For those that are members, do you find it makes it easier to find higher quality providers?

Are the providers listed usually active?

Also, it seems there are providers on the site who can only be displayed after purchasing a membership. Are these legit or just a way to entice new subscribers?
I have a P411 membership and I find it to be quite usefull, especially if you are new and have only a few refereences. I use it almost exclusively to find new providers. It makes screening very easy and painless, especially once you have multiple okays. Most of the providers are active. Not aure about the ones who can only be displayed after purchasing a membership. I have had a membeership for many years.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:08 PM   #19
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Earlier today I purchased a 411, a little intrusive but not too bad, I had been trying all weekend to get a provider but couldn't get any returns. Haven't been hobbying for several years, so its hard to get started without current references. Hope it helps.
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Old 03-09-2014, 04:17 PM   #20
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Wrong ... the smartest thing a newbie can do is to walk away and download Taint porn.
Fixed your post for you.
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Old 03-09-2014, 05:16 PM   #21
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Thancks ... but taint porn is too advanced for newbies.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:52 AM   #22
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As a provider I definitely say its worth the investment. Makes the screening process a lot quicker and puts my mind at ease.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:57 AM   #23
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Yes, it is well worth it. Between the two major cities I play in, I have over 300 beautiful ladies to choose from. And when I travel, its like gold for instant verification of both me and the legitimacy of the providers in markets that are unknown to me.

And while you can ascertain who is active by their most recent log-on date, if you REALLY want to know which ladies are "hot to trot", you can visit the P411 ad boards for the city you are in. I've found some good specials this way.

Interesting unintended consequence of being a frequent user: when I just had a few "ok's", the ladies would check my profile to see if they trusted the ladies providing the oks. Now that I have north of 20 okays, new ladies hardly ever look at my profile. This kinda bugs me a bit.
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Old 03-10-2014, 08:58 AM   #24
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Bad idea ladies, as P411 is no longer secure and has resulted in tons of escorts being arrested. Google "The Honest Courtesan" "Something in the Milk" and "The Proof of the Pudding" to learn the full scope of this. Many people think that P411 is working with the feds, after all the FBI told the media last fall that P411 was under investigation. P411 allows there members to PM escorts and out and right ask for illegal service, no discretion, and they even allowed a ex employee to get access to all the credit card info a year or so ago. They refuse to step up their game and anyone that complains or blacklists a P411 client is thrown off the board.
Now that the "End the Demand" campaign is coming to the US, once they start all the reverse stings, the clients will sing a different tune about P411. These reverse stings are already happening, in Ma, CT, + NH
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Old 03-10-2014, 09:15 AM   #25
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Yes, it is well worth it. Between the two major cities I play in, I have over 300 beautiful ladies to choose from. And when I travel, its like gold for instant verification of both me and the legitimacy of the providers in markets that are unknown to me.

And while you can ascertain who is active by their most recent log-on date, if you REALLY want to know which ladies are "hot to trot", you can visit the P411 ad boards for the city you are in. I've found some good specials this way.

Interesting unintended consequence of being a frequent user: when I just had a few "ok's", the ladies would check my profile to see if they trusted the ladies providing the oks. Now that I have north of 20 okays, new ladies hardly ever look at my profile. This kinda bugs me a bit.
I will gladly check you out - PFCffff
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:36 PM   #26
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Please be aware that ginainthemorning, and a handful of other disgruntled ex-members (usually providers), have taken it upon themselves to spread malicious gossip about P411. Some of what they say is based on some small fact, but it's always then grown into something much larger and scarier than it needs to be.

This has been going on for years, really since P411 got big enough for people to actually care if they were removed from the site.

If anyone has any questions or concerns, please know that I'm always here to address them.

Always,
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:43 PM   #27
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If she can't be convincingly honest about her age, I'm not really counting on her information on anything else, either.
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Old 03-10-2014, 12:52 PM   #28
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I am relatively new to the hobby and have absolutely appreciated P411. Of course, providers need to take it upon themselves to do whatever legwork is deemed necessary to make themselves feel safe, and on occasion even a P411 member has set my Spidey Sense tingling and I have asked for more info or been in touch with one or two recent okays, but overall, I have found it to be a great tool for both client and provider.

For my twopennithworth, I think that as fellas have to jump through a few hoops and "invest" at least time and money into their desired return (not monetary, but invaluable, yes? lol), it makes me feel reassured in a day and age where some fellows are more comfortable giving more personal information to order a pizza than to arrange an appointment. It says a lot about the hobbyist who is willing to go through the intrusive steps to make things easier and more comfortable for both parties, especially since the provider has also jumped through hoops to be there.

OP, yes, the settings are such that ladies can choose who they wish to see, and one option is to be visible to only members, for their protection. Membership has its privileges, as they say, lol...
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If she can't be convincingly honest about her age, I'm not really counting on her information on anything else, either.
I'm 44. I call bullshit....lol, Grace.
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Old 03-10-2014, 04:54 PM   #30
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Well worth it to try at least for a few months to see for yourself.
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