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Old 11-18-2011, 09:44 AM   #16
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P411 - don't hobby without it. All that 6 years of building a reputation will be eliminated. Hell I know of at least one dude who hobbied for over 10 years before he joined - now he swears by it. Now, I would think a lady would be suspicious of an experienced Dawg who didn't have P411

FWI - you will recoup the cost in $$ saved with providers that offer discounts to members.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:00 AM   #17
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Very true louigi. I, myself, acknowledge P411 as a screening tool and because of the safety of it, and also the ease of it to screen, I give 20 to 30 off of posted Eccie rates. Love it. Love the screening that p411 does for us... on top of what we have to do. I refer everyone to it and most that sign up ... LOVE IT and thank me later.

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Old 11-18-2011, 11:53 AM   #18
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Very true louigi. I, myself, acknowledge P411 as a screening tool and because of the safety of it, and also the ease of it to screen, I give 20 to 30 off of posted Eccie rates. Love it. Love the screening that p411 does for us... on top of what we have to do. I refer everyone to it and most that sign up ... LOVE IT and thank me later.

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I had forgotten that if a provider refers you, your 1st 6 months is free - after that, you're hooked
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:02 PM   #19
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Even if he joins a screening site he still has no refs...would not fly for many providers. That's why they have the options of which members a gal will see...most want the ones with at least 2 refs. I know I would not see someone with no refs unless "I" personally knew about him from my own research.
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:13 PM   #20
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You'll have to be screened and give some form of a contact number to meet any decent provider .I doubt any experienced hobbyist would see a girl who said sure just come over and all give out their room number . If your looking to have fun and be safe a indy girl who screens is best . Spitzer got caught because he was being investigated for other stuff and Fleiss was a agency/madam not a indy solo girl . Otherwise I would recommend going to Nevada and visiting a ranch ,No screening , and meet girls before the date . I agree with London , I love p411 but if someone with no oks or maybe only 1 pms me I do do my own screening as well to feel safe .There are many experienced safe providers out there . I'd say ask guys in your local area and see who they recommend xoxo Welcome to Hobbyworld !
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Old 11-18-2011, 12:35 PM   #21
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YEP, London... Even on p4... I'm members plus 2... have to have 2 or more RECENT references for me. I cannot accept references even on p4.. that are older than 3 months. Have to have recent verification guys. Safety is key and always first.

I never trust someone else to do MY personal screening. I want to know they are personally checked out BY ME.

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Old 11-18-2011, 06:43 PM   #22
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I have never nor will I ever give a provider my real name. I have never nor will I ever give a provider my real address, my real phone number, my real e-mail address or any employment related contact information. I consider myself an UTR hobbyist
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Old 11-18-2011, 06:52 PM   #23
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Well, see that's where you don't have to. You have established yourself on the board. The only thing that I personally would ask for is a way to let each provider remember you specifically... whether it was a spilled drink on her floor.. knocked something over.. a specic convo you had with someone... did you meet for drinks..

No personal info needed on someone with a history on the board already.

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A great provider makes money doing this. Most of the time... the money goes for the better of her life and if she has a family.. they benefit as well.... I know personally ... I wont do anything to mess up my family's good fun money.. with some BS.. of trying to ruin you.. when all it takes from YOU is an alert.. of what I've been doing. MOST providers don't want that rep. Most are not trying to start trouble. If anything, if you play by the rules... WE all do to. We try to avoid drama... at least I do... at all costs. I hate drama.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:30 PM   #25
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I have never nor will I ever give a provider my real name. I have never nor will I ever give a provider my real address, my real phone number, my real e-mail address or any employment related contact information. I consider myself an UTR hobbyist

but then, how did you gain your experience to be 'known on the board'?


I'm not questioning the motives or suggesting malice by the women themselves.
It's the possibility of police coming down on them/you and impounding client records, computers, phones etc.


If I provide my employer info, does that mean you ring my employer?
What can you possibly ask? other than that I 'exist'?
Not that it would apply to me anyway; musicians are essentially self-employed contract workers.


thanks to all for exploring this with me, by the way. And for not being dismissive or unpleasant about it!
I'm sure I'm not the only one who thinks about it like this.
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Old 11-18-2011, 10:35 PM   #26
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I didn't even have to check refs with most of the guys I met here...can't say that for other sites where I am not a live on lol.

As for what providers do with your employment info...well, I certainly call and say something that would correlate with your profession. If you are a doc, I am a pharm rep...actually, I am ha ha. If you are an Attorney, I am in need of legal advice...etc.

Self employed, won't do any good for me. I mean it's not like you are going to say bad stuff about your own self lol.
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Old 11-18-2011, 11:01 PM   #27
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I didn't even have to check refs with most of the guys I met here...can't say that for other sites where I am not a live on lol......
I'm not on P411 - I'm not on Datecheck - I haven't had any problems. I can see how it would be useful to some but I don't feel the need.
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and how is that Ed?
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Because he is a surbanite?
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I'm not on P411 - I'm not on Datecheck - I haven't had any problems. I can see how it would be useful to some but I don't feel the need.
I can confirm this.
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