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Old 04-13-2011, 04:59 PM   #16
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When I first started, I had people contact me wanting to drive me places. Heck, I've landed in third world countries by myself, I just don't need a driver.

I believe that a lot of younger women feel that they need a driver for protection, whatever the hell that means. It's silly and just not needed.

With that being said, when you're new (and I'm going to add young and uninformed) people will suggest that they sit at your house during an appointment or answer the door for you (What? That would scare the living crap out of a potential client!) ... or that you need "protection".

I didn't have men contacting me who were pimps, per se. Just wanting to make a little extra money. Also, there are those guys who think hanging around escorts is cool and the driving part feeds into that. And let's face it, some people watch too much television and have these preconceived notions about escorts in general to begin with. It's only when you get on a board like this that you realize that escorts are actually real people with the same needs and concerns as others.

Once, when I was giving my opinions about drivers overall, a woman suggested that a lot of dancers who performed at bachelor parties would use a driver because of her equipment. Well, if that's the case, to each their own.

In a busy city, I take a cab. If that. In Chicago, I just don't DO outcalls and I'm there very frequently. It's just not worth it.

In the Dallas area, you just need a car. If a woman doesn't have an incall or needs to do outcall for any reason, a decent vehicle (at least clean and neat looking) is just a requirement. Heck, I have a ten year old Jeep and it works just fine, even at good hotels.

The whole "driver" thing has never set well with me. If I were a guy, or a woman, hiring an escort ... well, I would have the same set of concerns that some of voiced here.

It's a legitimate concern, I feel. I will say that there were a few months that I didn't HAVE a car and had a friend drive me to a few hotels and took a cab to others. But it was a friend and no one was the wiser. I never went to a residence while a friend drove but I don't have many outcalls like that. It's rare for me.

Good topic, tigercat!

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Old 04-13-2011, 05:24 PM   #17
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I know a lot of providers who have suspended licenses unfortunately. That is how I became a driver for a few of my friends. No one ever had a problem with it. Sometimes I just dropped them off and went somewhere until they called me to pick them back up.
I would add that if you're worried about a lady casing your residence, black mailing you or someone stealing from you, you should definitely not host for an outcall. You might feel better about doing incalls...
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:46 PM   #18
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Elisabeth,

Very good post on the subject. (probably more level headed than the rest of us.)
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Old 04-13-2011, 06:55 PM   #19
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I know a lot of providers who have suspended licenses unfortunately.
That's an interesting pairing. This would seem to indicate that escorts have a higher percentage of suspensions than the normal population. Wonder why?
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:16 PM   #20
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When I first started, I had people contact me wanting to drive me places. Heck, I've landed in third world countries by myself, I just don't need a driver.
Same here.

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I believe that a lot of younger women feel that they need a driver for protection, whatever the hell that means. It's silly and just not needed.
Not this one.

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With that being said, when you're new (and I'm going to add young and uninformed) people will suggest that they sit at your house during an appointment or answer the door for you (What? That would scare the living crap out of a potential client!) ... or that you need "protection".
I have heard of this happening but not to me.


I don't think having a driver has anything to do with how young someone is. If a lady isn't old enough to drive, she should not be in the hobby. I know a lot of escorts in their 40s- 50s that do not drive or don't know HOW to drive. Why? I have no clue. When issues like these come up people are so quick to blame it on age. Age has nothing to do with it. I know escorts that don't have licenses or their license has been suspended. I don't get it. I would go nuts if I coudn't drive. It's not like I live in an area where I could walk everywhere (how I wish). Cars are really a lot of trouble but one that I am willing to put up with.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:40 PM   #21
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The preception among Hobbyist is: "Driver=Pimp".

When a Review is written, and the reviewer mentions Driver, that will raise as many red flags as NCNS and Stinky Pussy.
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Old 04-13-2011, 07:40 PM   #22
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As usual, some people don't give a fuck about hobbyist legitimate concerns. There's enough instances of hobbyists being beaten for the cash out there (just as there is for the ladies), that this is a realistic fear.

It's obvious from this post the only side with which one is concerned is the hooker side. The client side of the concern seems to be always marginalized.

Very true-I worry about both sides because if I was a male inviting a lady over to my house or apartment and something bad happened I would be scared...............also if something happends to the gentleman on our time-it would give me a bad name and gents would think twice about seeing me!!
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:34 PM   #23
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I don't think having a driver has anything to do with how young someone is. If a lady isn't old enough to drive, she should not be in the hobby. I know a lot of escorts in their 40s- 50s that do not drive or don't know HOW to drive. Why? I have no clue. When issues like these come up people are so quick to blame it on age. Age has nothing to do with it. I know escorts that don't have licenses or their license has been suspended. I don't get it. I would go nuts if I coudn't drive. It's not like I live in an area where I could walk everywhere (how I wish). Cars are really a lot of trouble but one that I am willing to put up with.
The way a person handles this business has a LOT to do with age. I'm glad that you have yourself together well enough to not be in some of these negative situations, but I see that the younger set tends to have more of them than the older ones.

People of all levels of society have problems with a license or they don't know how to drive. I DO find it interesting that you know "a lot" of escorts in their 40's and 50's that do not drive. In past discussions, you've made it rather clear that you find older escorts somewhat repulsive or a group that you find (and others as well) enjoyable to belittle.

But back to topic, it's sad that some ladies aren't able to drive. I've known quite a few people who have lost the privilege to drive for a myriad of reasons and most have little to do with age. But, I would be willing to bet that you're not going to see a bunch of older escorts with drivers regardless of circumstances. It's something that I haven't observed.

I stand by my original statement that age DOES have a bearing on the choices some ladies make. And I will reinterate that I'm glad you're not in that particular mix.

Good luck,
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:37 PM   #24
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I completely understand the need for the provider to be safe. The drawback I have experienced has been the time element. Sometimes the provider has the driver call at a certain time. I have had a couple of bad experiences with the phone ringing at a very bad time and ruining the experience
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ElisabethWhispers, Just because I had a problem with an older escort doesn't mean that I have a problem with escorts that are older than I am.

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Old 04-13-2011, 10:36 PM   #26
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At the point that we start talking blackmail, I am screwed. I doubt many of our SOs understand the finer point of hearsay evidence, and fewer still give a rat's ass.

The problems can arise long before you are looking at criminal charges.
I agree with you that blackmail problems arise long before the fear of criminal charges. Having said that, I seriously doubt any reputable provider who employs a driver would knowingly allow or permit the driver to attempt to blackmail a client. Word would get out and the provider would no longer be a provider. The only angle I can see for blackmail is by professional con artists that act as a team while moving from town to town. The likelihood of any of those types being seen by those of us here is probably around the zero percent range. Blackmailers prey on the uninformed or the careless.
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As usual, some people don't give a fuck about hobbyist legitimate concerns. There's enough instances of hobbyists being beaten for the cash out there (just as there is for the ladies), that this is a realistic fear.

It's obvious from this post the only side with which one is concerned is the hooker side. The client side of the concern seems to be always marginalized.
A man who's worried about that should stick with well-reviewed ladies and not concern himself with their transportation arrangements: Problem solved. What you and the OP are doing is called "borrowing trouble".
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A man who's worried about that should stick with well-reviewed ladies and not concern himself with their transportation arrangements: Problem solved. What you and the OP are doing is called "borrowing trouble".
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:47 AM   #29
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I seriously doubt any reputable provider who employs a driver would knowingly allow or permit the driver to attempt to blackmail a client.
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A man who's worried about that should stick with well-reviewed ladies and not concern himself with their transportation arrangements: Problem solved. What you and the OP are doing is called "borrowing trouble".
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All of you are naive. Here's a thread about ladies being subject to rape and the clients taking the money back: http://www.eccie.net/showthread.php?t=86481. Most of the ladies who posted in this thread have more than adequate screening techniques, yet they still fell victim.

If it can happen to the more sophisticated ladies who post here, it can happen to clients no matter how well reviewed the lady is. No guy knows what kind of drama is occurring in any escort's life at any one time. Hell, she might have a bf who won't let her fuck but still wants the income.

Yes, ladies take their safety in their hands with every date. But so do the clients.
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*sigh* Ok.
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