Dealing With The "Stereotype" Of Being In The Sex Trade Professions

[Karyn Lovely]

I'd like to know for a fact too. I know that girls suffering from childhood abuse, early pregnancy, poverty, etc are more likely to become prostitutes, but that is not the same as stating that most prostitutes were abused. I could find nothing on the actual percentages of ladies who are prostitutes (as well as call girls, erotica ladies, etc) that actually come from bad backgrounds compared to those who don't. I am not saying it isn't true because it very may well be, but I don't take other people's opinions as fact. But this is just me by myself.

There's tons of information on abused children and their risks of going into the sex trade but it seems that nobody is interested in exactly how many women in the sex trades were actually fucked up as kids. Finding out that this opinion is a fallacy may open up a can of worms for some people. If sex work isn't constantly portrayed as evil and the women seen as victimized, then the police and govt would have no excuse to prosecute us the way they do and that's bad for them. God forbid people learn that many ladies are educated and come from a non-broken home. It'd almost be as if we're just normal people running a business....

On a side note, another thing why are we escorts always paired with child prositution and human trafficking? We primarily have nothing to do with that but police are constantly busting consenting adults in order to "save the children". Really? Why don't you actually try going after people who, I don't know, ACTUALLY TRAFFIC CHILDREN. Go save some babies and let me suck my cocks in peace. America and its agenda I swear.

[Karyn Lovely]

Found an article asking if ladies were exploited as children. But it only looked at street prostitutes so unfortunately it can't be generalized to describe ALL sex workers (they literally only looked on street corners) and it was done 30 years ago so its definitely no longer relevant. The ball kicker is that I have to purchase the journal just to see the results so even for the street walkers I can't get the answer damn. Gives me hope that there are other studies out there though.

NEW: I found more articles that are recent and address the issue but they explicitly concentrate on street walkers only, especially those in poor neighborhoods. No one is even caring to look at us other ladies. I'm sorry but I refuse to be lumped together with a sw. Not being full of myself but that's NOT the area I am in and its not the position the vast majority of you ladies are in either. Bleh here's one

http://m.jce.sagepub.com/content/37/4/417.short

[game1]

Originally Posted by Cpalmson

Interesting topic. My overall observation is this. The stereotypes are WELL deserved. I'm not trying to make a blanket statement or pass judgment, but there is a lot of truth to what goes into making a stereotype. That's why we call them stereotypes. Again, this is not to be mean-spirited or harmful to anyone. This is just my personal observation. I've been dabbling with strippers, providers, and "erotic" models since the late 1980s. For the most part (i.e. greater than 50%) the girls involved in this industry come from some sort of dysfunctional background. You name it; I've seen it or the girls have told me about it-- abuse, alcohol, drugs, broken family, poverty, etc. The number one thing I've noticed is that most girls who do this got pregnant before finishing high school or at an early age and lacked a caring environment to deal with the situation. Again, I'm not lumping all girls into this, and I do realize each individual picked this profession for their own personal reasons.

I have to disagree, stereotypes are based mainly on ignorance. Whether its based in your profession, race, religion, social standings, Misinformation.

[Rogue_Gent]

The reason women become prostitutes??

I read a 30 y.o. study done by a grad student in NYC who did his masters thesis on the background of NYC streetwalkers. All the women in his study had a background of childhood sexual abuse by a step-father, relative or their mother's BF. I wonder if this is also true regarding the independent providers who obtain their business on the internet, I doubt it.

None of the studies ever seem to mention that a 19 year old woman without a H.S. education can make more money working three days a week as a provider than a 40 year old accountant can working a 40 hour week.

Could a woman's choice to become a provider have been a result of a rational economic decision? Not if you listen to the Anti-prostitution advocates. I look closely at them and their rants and I see a man-hating FemiNazi that thinks any hetrosexual sex is potentially a form of exploitation of women. I pay $200-$250 for an hour of a providers time, am I exploiting her? The ranters claim that any prostitution enables the trafficers and could not possibly be uncoerced and these stereotypes are frequently cited as proof of their claims.

[JohnnyYanks]

@R_G: It seems your counter-argument is as inflexible as that you rail against. Black and white tends to be brittle standing.

[Jewish Lawyer]

I too am a victim of massive stereotyping. I'm thought of as a master manipulator and sharp with money, as well as an angry old white man. It sucks but I've learned to overcome it, as everyone else needs to overcome their own hardships.

[pyramider]

I doubt a comprehensive study could be done on the background of prostitutes. The reason is really simple, most of prostitution is done out of sight. Plus, how many lady would actually fill out a lengthy questionnaire or sit for an interview ...

[B.Wayne]

Well, I have met women on here that carry themselves better than civie girls I met and in some cases they share the same problems/concerns with eachother. I don't think you can peg any one group as being that they do what they do because of this or because of that. I would ask you to raise the question of proving that any one of dancers/escorts.ect..ect. WERE abused in some fashion. Does it happen? I would venture to guess that it does. But does it happen to others that aren't in the industry? Yes it does.

The same argument could be brought that people that take depression medication are in a certain class and have certain problems or traits. Im generalizing, but I think you get what I'm trying to say.

[B.Wayne]

And what about the story of that former track star that was found to be an escort? Seemed to have it all and from what I remember there wasn't any real reason for her to do what she was doing other than she liked it. There are people out there that are like that. I don't think it's tied down to being abused all the time. But Im actually curious how many women say they were abused just to give them an excuse to 'let off some steam' and do this just because they want to. I realize there are some that feel they have to but I know there are some out there that don't have to they just want to.

[Zabrina Sarafina]

Originally Posted by Karyn Lovely

Go save some babies and let me suck my cocks in peace.

Originally Posted by Jewish Lawyer

I too am a victim of massive stereotyping. I'm thought of as a master manipulator and sharp with money, as well as an angry old white man. It sucks but I've learned to overcome it, as everyone else needs to overcome their own hardships.

I love jewish peoplez! even though my family refers to them as backstabbers

Originally Posted by B.Wayne

Well, I have met women on here that carry themselves better than civie girls I met

This is true, I invest and take this alot more seriously then civvie dating, which I am frankly quite careless about

Originally Posted by B.Wayne

And what about the story of that former track star that was found to be an escort? Seemed to have it all and from what I remember there wasn't any real reason for her to do what she was doing other than she liked it. There are people out there that are like that. I don't think it's tied down to being abused all the time. But Im actually curious how many women say they were abused just to give them an excuse to 'let off some steam' and do this just because they want to. I realize there are some that feel they have to but I know there are some out there that don't have to they just want to.

"What do you mean you enjoy what you do? That simply can't be true! What Atrocity!!"

[Allure]

I may get flammed too death for this one....but there's zero difference between a provider and any other female group. In the grand scheme of things, every sexually active woman in America is a provider.

I look at my girlfriends who are swingers and wonder what the fuck is wrong with them? It's HYSTERICAL to watch them go through all these changes to get to a swinger club to fuck as many men as possible...then go to the locker room and whip out their hitachis? I am SO CONFUSED?? What is the purpose of this night of free fuckery?...and they do this EVERY WEEKEND.

I'll take being stereotyped as abused as a child any day over being a dumb ass grown woman. I cannot spend that much time doing anything that would tax my body like that FOR FREE? I mean anonymous men standing around in a circle jerk....for free?...and the females allow photos, videos....all that for free?

All men pay for it and all women who are in their right minds and sober expect something in exchange for their time. It's always been that way and it's not ever going to change.

No woman in her sane and sober mind is going to waltz down to skid row and bring a bum home to sleep with.If a girl is a doctor she is NOT going to date the french fry crew leader at Mickey Dees. Why? bc a bum or the crew leader has nothing to offer her. Civilian men may whine about being asked to pick up a dinner tab, pick up a shopping tab, or a marriage tab....but its all a TAB. My 90 minute TAB is less expensive than trying to take me shopping, pay my bills, and be my boyfriend.

Providers just skip all the games, endless dates, and generalized bullshit.....and charge an hourly rate for the time. So who is crazy here? A man who MAY end up getting laid after he has spent a small fortune on someone who may turn out to be a really bad in bed? A female who has to play game after game after game to get him to spend a dime?

Or providers and hobbyist who have figured out the fastest way to keep everyone happy?


Signed,


I swear my Dad never touched me...and my parents were married for 43 years....before he died of natural causes.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Because I'm not a stereotype, I don't deal with it. And I've structured my business not to deal with anyone who views me as one.

While I'm never really concerned with how a lady gets into the business, I'm a fan of making changes so that the business works for the lady.

[Jewish Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Allure

I may get flammed too death for this one....but there's zero difference between a provider and any other female group. In the grand scheme of things, every sexually active woman in America is a provider.

I look at my girlfriends who are swingers and wonder what the fuck is wrong with them? It's HYSTERICAL to watch them go through all these changes to get to a swinger club to fuck as many men as possible...then go to the locker room and whip out their hitachis? I am SO CONFUSED?? What is the purpose of this night of free fuckery?...and they do this EVERY WEEKEND.

I'll take being stereotyped as abused as a child any day over being a dumb ass grown woman. I cannot spend that much time doing anything that would tax my body like that FOR FREE? I mean anonymous men standing around in a circle jerk....for free?...and the females allow photos, videos....all that for free?

All men pay for it and all women who are in their right minds and sober expect something in exchange for their time. It's always been that way and it's not ever going to change.

No woman in her sane and sober mind is going to waltz down to skid row and bring a bum home to sleep with.If a girl is a doctor she is NOT going to date the french fry crew leader at Mickey Dees. Why? bc a bum or the crew leader has nothing to offer her. Civilian men may whine about being asked to pick up a dinner tab, pick up a shopping tab, or a marriage tab....but its all a TAB. My 90 minute TAB is less expensive than trying to take me shopping, pay my bills, and be my boyfriend.

Providers just skip all the games, endless dates, and generalized bullshit.....and charge an hourly rate for the time. So who is crazy here? A man who MAY end up getting laid after he has spent a small fortune on someone who may turn out to be a really bad in bed? A female who has to play game after game after game to get him to spend a dime?

Or providers and hobbyist who have figured out the fastest way to keep everyone happy?


Signed,


I swear my Dad never touched me...and my parents were married for 43 years....before he died of natural causes.

I for one love your post!

[dreamvacationdates]

Originally Posted by Allure

I may get flammed too death for this one....but there's zero difference between a provider and any other female group. In the grand scheme of things, every sexually active woman in America is a provider.

I look at my girlfriends who are swingers and wonder what the fuck is wrong with them? It's HYSTERICAL to watch them go through all these changes to get to a swinger club to fuck as many men as possible...then go to the locker room and whip out their hitachis? I am SO CONFUSED?? What is the purpose of this night of free fuckery?...and they do this EVERY WEEKEND.

I'll take being stereotyped as abused as a child any day over being a dumb ass grown woman. I cannot spend that much time doing anything that would tax my body like that FOR FREE? I mean anonymous men standing around in a circle jerk....for free?...and the females allow photos, videos....all that for free?

All men pay for it and all women who are in their right minds and sober expect something in exchange for their time. It's always been that way and it's not ever going to change.

No woman in her sane and sober mind is going to waltz down to skid row and bring a bum home to sleep with.If a girl is a doctor she is NOT going to date the french fry crew leader at Mickey Dees. Why? bc a bum or the crew leader has nothing to offer her. Civilian men may whine about being asked to pick up a dinner tab, pick up a shopping tab, or a marriage tab....but its all a TAB. My 90 minute TAB is less expensive than trying to take me shopping, pay my bills, and be my boyfriend.

Providers just skip all the games, endless dates, and generalized bullshit.....and charge an hourly rate for the time. So who is crazy here? A man who MAY end up getting laid after he has spent a small fortune on someone who may turn out to be a really bad in bed? A female who has to play game after game after game to get him to spend a dime?

Or providers and hobbyist who have figured out the fastest way to keep everyone happy?


Signed,


I swear my Dad never touched me...and my parents were married for 43 years....before he died of natural causes.

From South Park Butters Bottom Bitch:
Butters: Kyle, every boy pay for kisses, do you know what i am saying? if you've got a girl and she's kissing you, sooner or later, you are paying for it. you gotta take her out to lunch, take to a movie, and then spend time listening to all her stupid problems. look, look at there, he's got to sit there and listen to her stupid motherfucking problems because she kisses him. If you ask me, that's a lot more than the $5 dollars my company charges.

[pyramider]

Stereotypes taint one's perspective.