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Old 02-22-2013, 08:21 PM   #16
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The problem in those cities boils down to 2 main problems.
1. The Republicans starve them of the capital they need to rebuild, and get people working, or support them if they can't find a job.
2. Racism
If you're joking, JL, I'm laughing my ass off!! If you're not...you really need help.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:41 PM   #17
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JL was making a point. The makers moved out of the city due to too much government interference in their business, thus explaining #1.

The racism comment is commonly used by liberals to describe "white flight" from the cities, due to high crime rates. People want to live someplace safer. This is due to lax law enforcement, often promoted by Democrats and other liberals.

It was a good point. Liberals will always find ways to blame non-liberals for the problems they create for themselves.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:53 PM   #18
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All those are, or have been run by fucking libtards. Thats why they are fucked up.
OK, how about Houston, dumbass? Or Dallas? Or San Antonio.

Fucking LIBTARDS have run all of those cities into the sewer, right?

Idiot.
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Old 02-22-2013, 08:54 PM   #19
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Detroit population down 2% per year, murders up 9% per year. At this pace, in 2081 Detroit will have 168k people and 173k murders
You're a loony. I expect an update in 2051!
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:00 PM   #20
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Man, I am just champing at the bit to respond to one single fucking thing you have ever said here that makes much sense beyond you saying "Fuckin' A libtards"....We're all just waiting for you to say something that merits a response. Maybe someday....
Well respond to this asshole, go fuck yourself, god damn arrogant shithead, your almost as bad as fast jerkmeoff.

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OK, how about Houston, dumbass? Or Dallas? Or San Antonio.

Fucking LIBTARDS have run all of those cities into the sewer, right?

Idiot.
Sup, our taxes are lower, bottom line.
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:07 PM   #21
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OK, how about Houston, dumbass? Or Dallas? Or San Antonio.
It hasn't been just Democrats - at least not in Dallas. Two of the last five elected mayors of Dallas have been GOP.

And, for all of those cities, the state has been run by the GOP for most of the recent years. So they have been on a short leash.
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Best you've got is 2 out of 5 Dallas Mayors?

Go back farther ... You'll probably find the ratio even smaller.

Fort Worth? Austin? El Paso?

Real short leash.
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Best you've got is 2 out of 5 Dallas Mayors?

Go back farther ... You'll probably find the ratio even smaller.

Fort Worth? Austin? El Paso?

Real short leash.
I've got 2 out of 5 Dallas mayors because that's all I bothered to think about. I'm not going to look up Houston, that's your job.

Speaking of going back. If you go back far enough - and by that I mean the early 80s - you end up with a solid array of white Democrats running all those cities and the state. But those white Democrats weren't the "liberal" type were they? They where the type liberals now say make up the "conservative" base of the GOP. Or had you forgotten?
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Old 02-22-2013, 09:26 PM   #24
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JL was making a point. The makers moved out of the city due to too much government interference in their business, thus explaining #1.

The racism comment is commonly used by liberals to describe "white flight" from the cities, due to high crime rates. People want to live someplace safer. This is due to lax law enforcement, often promoted by Democrats and other liberals.

It was a good point. Liberals will always find ways to blame non-liberals for the problems they create for themselves.
You nailed it COG! The motto of the left is blame whitey and blame righty.
I was illustrating the point sarcastically.
Dallas has always been run by a conservative city manager. The mayor has the same voting power as a city councilman.
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You nailed it COG! The motto of the left is blame whitey and blame righty.
I was illustrating the point sarcastically.
OK. You got me there.
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I've got 2 out of 5 Dallas mayors because that's all I bothered to think about. I'm not going to look up Houston, that's your job.

Speaking of going back. If you go back far enough - and by that I mean the early 80s - you end up with a solid array of white Democrats running all those cities and the state. But those white Democrats weren't the "liberal" type were they? They where the type liberals now say make up the "conservative" base of the GOP. Or had you forgotten?
Actually, the mayors of Houston and Dallas were big libs going back at least 30 years. Ever heard of Kathy Whitmire? Annette Strauss? Ron Kirk? Fred Hofheinz? Yeah, they were all BIG righties! LMAO!

San Antonio? One mayor since 1981 who would be considered a conservative ... At that time ... Bill Thornton. He was a Republican then. Hes still a dentist.

You obviously don't have a clue.

That's OK.

WHAT ABOUT NEW YORK?
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You nailed it COG! The motto of the left is blame whitey and blame righty.
I was illustrating the point sarcastically.
Dallas has always been run by a conservative city manager. The mayor has the same voting power as a city councilman.
Well you got me on that too. But my post was still cool, lol.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:06 PM   #28
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Actually, the mayors of Houston and Dallas were big libs going back at least 30 years. Ever heard of Kathy Whitmire? Annette Strauss? Ron Kirk? Fred Hofheinz? Yeah, they were all BIG righties! LMAO!

San Antonio? One mayor since 1981 who would be considered a conservative ... At that time ... Bill Thornton. He was a Republican then. Hes still a dentist.

You obviously don't have a clue.

That's OK.

WHAT ABOUT NEW YORK?
Annette Strauss? I use to work with a company that had a membership in the Dallas Club and husband Bob referrred my boss as an Ass whole

Anyway the current Major, Mike Rawlings mother taught school with my ex in OKC and I was a member of his church in Dalllas, I do not think he is liberaal
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Actually, the mayors of Houston and Dallas were big libs going back at least 30 years. Ever heard of Kathy Whitmire? Annette Strauss? Ron Kirk? Fred Hofheinz? Yeah, they were all BIG righties! LMAO!

San Antonio? One mayor since 1981 who would be considered a conservative ... At that time ... Bill Thornton. He was a Republican then. Hes still a dentist.

You obviously don't have a clue.
You obviously like to count selectively. And label every Democrat a "liberal" even when they clearly are not.

I'm not sure how you're counting, but the mayors of Houston and Dallas going back 30 years weren't all Democrats, there were Republicans in there, and they weren't liberals. And even a lot of those Democrats were conservative by today's standards and even the standards of the 70s and 80s.. The Texas conservatives you loathe so much USED to be Democrats. They moved into the GOP through the late 70s, 80s, and 90s as the Democratic Party went further left.

And you also missed the point that regardless of the politics of the particular mayor, they are kept on a leash by the state legislature and the governor, and they have been mostly conservative as well - at least by the standards of today. How would you classify Governor John Connally, who even switched parties in 1973? Is he a liberal to you because he was a Democrat?

The OP was making the point that the 9 fucked up cities in IL, CA and MI have basically suffered from nearly single party rule by liberals in both the cities and at the state level.

You tried to counter that with Houston and Dallas, but its a lousy example. The politics in those cities and in Texas state government has been a mixed bag that has been far more centrist. If Texas had had anything like the Democratic governments in IL and MI, do you think there is even a 1% chance that Texas would be a right-to-work state?

In case you missed it, I already mentioned NY above.
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Old 02-23-2013, 09:12 AM   #30
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OK. You got me there.
Sorry about that - but I agreed with your rebuttal completely!
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