False Claims Of “Insurrection,” Minutes After January 6 Capitol Riot, Suggest Disinformation Plot

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

Total horseshit to day Nancy was not in charge of Capitol security during the insurrection, but this is what happens when your get all your news from the bullshit radical right-wing extremist conspiracy theory media.

Proud boy assholes and oath keeper assholes were convicted of seditious conspiracy. Here's the a definition again to help you understand:

Is sedition the same thing as insurrection? While they clearly overlap, “sedition” centers more on plotting and incitement, whereas “insurrection” is generally understood to mean the actual violent acts of an uprising aimed at overthrowing the government.

So those stupid jackasses both plotted their actions on January 6th and then went to the Capitol and committed many violent acts so don't know how any person with any sense can not call it an insurrection.

Lol, hey rmg, try to learn how to read.... I said Nancy WAS in charge of the capital police.

Other than spewing a filthy mouth In ur posts, I find them hilarious

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by chizzy

Lol, hey rmg, try to learn how to read.... I said Nancy WAS in charge of the capital police.

Other than spewing a filthy mouth In ur posts, I find them hilarious

And as usual, Nancy WAS NOT in charge of the capitol police January 6th. But when you listen and believe total fucking idiots like Jim Jordan and the radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news organizations, you continue to make false statements.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...ce/8082088002/

[Chase7]

Nancy Pelosi was in charge of security. She was in charge of the person who was, that makes her ultimately in charge.
Incompetent people like her shield themselves and blame others.

The House Sargent of Arms is in charge of security who reports to the speaker. This person turned down calls from the Capital Police for National Guard assistance days before. He rejected the request days before “Do to Optics”.

The democrats wanted this happen so they could use it against any republican that ran for President in 2024.

Like anyone ultimately in charge that person is responsible!

The President is ultimately in charge of the military.

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by Chase7

Nancy Pelosi was in charge of security. She was in charge of the person who was, that makes her ultimately in charge.
Incompetent people like her shield themselves and blame others.

The House Sargent of Arms is in charge of security who reports to the speaker. This person turned down calls from the Capital Police for National Guard assistance days before. He rejected the request days before “Do to Optics”.

The democrats wanted this happen so they could use it against any republican that ran for President in 2024.

Like anyone ultimately in charge that person is responsible!

The President is ultimately in charge of the military.

Another fact check showing Pelosi was NOT IN CHARGE, but maga fucking moron Jim Jordan and the radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news keep their followers consistently ill-informed with their lies, bullshit, and fake news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ity/index.html

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

Another fact check showing Pelosi was NOT IN CHARGE, but maga fucking moron Jim Jordan and the radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news keep their followers consistently ill-informed with their lies, bullshit, and fake news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ity/index.html

per CNN the authority rests with the Capitol Police Board. so why did they delay for hours requesting the National Guard? you know why. they wanted to allow a riot in order to claim it was an "insurrection". they didn't

and then there is this ...

General: Pentagon hesitated on sending Guard to Capitol riot

https://apnews.com/article/general-t...bcdd0def6c2a1a


why would the Pentagon delay their response? political optics. the one thing the Military is NOT allowed to consider. one wonders why they did?

you know why,


A senior Pentagon official who testified, Robert Salesses, said then-acting Defense Secretary Chris Miller wanted to take time to understand precisely how National Guard troops would be used at the Capitol and what assignments they would be given. Mindful of criticism that the response to the demonstrations last spring was heavy-handed, military officials were also concerned about the optics of a substantial National Guard presence at the Capitol, and thought such visuals could inflame the rioters, Walker said.


“The Army senior leadership” expressed “that it would not be their best military advice to have uniformed Guardsmen on the Capitol,” Walker said.

[chizzy]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

Another fact check showing Pelosi was NOT IN CHARGE, but maga fucking moron Jim Jordan and the radical far-right conspiracy theory extremist news keep their followers consistently ill-informed with their lies, bullshit, and fake news.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn...ity/index.html

as usual, you have no idea what you spew as facts.you cut and paste to suit your opinion. nancy ,as speaker of the house oversees and has the ultimaste decision making over the capitol police. the chief of police answers to the sergant at arms who then answers to ............... the speaker of the house
honestly, you aint worth the time with your bullshit


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergea...ouse%20chamber.

since you wont look to see you are again wrong, here is the security decision making order...

Security
As the chief law enforcement officer of the House, the sergeant at arms is responsible for security in the House wing of the United States Capitol, the House office buildings, and on adjacent grounds. Under the direction of the speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the sergeant at arms plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

[rmg_35]

Originally Posted by chizzy

as usual, you have no idea what you spew as facts.you cut and paste to suit your opinion. nancy ,as speaker of the house oversees and has the ultimaste decision making over the capitol police. the chief of police answers to the sergant at arms who then answers to ............... the speaker of the house
honestly, you aint worth the time with your bullshit


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergea...ouse%20chamber.

since you wont look to see you are again wrong, here is the security decision making order...

Security
As the chief law enforcement officer of the House, the sergeant at arms is responsible for security in the House wing of the United States Capitol, the House office buildings, and on adjacent grounds. Under the direction of the speaker of the House or other presiding officer, the sergeant at arms plays an integral role in maintaining order and decorum in the House chamber.

You really don't have a clue.

[Salty Again]

... Simple solution: ... Trump has stated that He offoured
the National Guard to the Capitol for 6 Jan.
For crowd control AND traffic control.

And He's mentioned that Pelosi didn't want them.

... So we've heard Trump's side of this.
WHY doesn't somebody ask Nancy Pelosi if that is so?

They couldn't ask her about this during the "J6" Hearings
because Nancy was "off limits" and "unavailable" for comment.

... I'd surely like to hear her answer on this. ... Under oath.

#### Salty

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by rmg_35

Total horseshit to day Nancy was not in charge of Capitol security

Wow, you got something right. It IS total horseshit to say that Nancy Pelosi WAS NOT in charge of Capitol Security because she indeed was.

Maybe the real facts we share here are having an effect on you and you are finally admitting Pelosi WAS in charge of Capitol Security on Jan 6

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Think about it this way. In the 250+ years of this country, we never had a case of an election being 'rigged'. We only had it rigged the first time when Trump was a sore loser and claimed that he won before even the votes were finished being counted. It was the first election where the sitting POTUS asked a state to overturn the votes. It was the first election where the POTUS' people tried to send their own electors to quite literally steal the vote.

Not sure what any of that has to do with the claims that it was a coup attempt or insurrection plotted in advance and while they should have been too ridiculous to be believed by anyone with any common sense, three years of relentless disinformation from state-controlled media convinced half the country that it was something it wasn't.

And you clearly are forgetting your history. Just in recent times Al Gore claimed the election was stolen and went to court, forced selective recounts, etc, etc. Hillary Clinton in 2016 claimed the election was stolen and hatched the false Russian Disinformation plot.

Numerous democrats in 2016 and other years tried to disqualify / turn over the results of several states elections during the electoral college process. And numerous democrats have tried to get electors to become a faithless elector and steal the vote. Funny how you seemingly forgot all of that

Now back to the OP, why was it that the Democrats had already hatched a disinformation plan in advance to falsely label Jan 6 an insurrection?

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by Chase7

Nancy Pelosi was in charge of security. She was in charge of the person who was, that makes her ultimately in charge.
Incompetent people like her shield themselves and blame others.

The House Sargent of Arms is in charge of security who reports to the speaker. This person turned down calls from the Capital Police for National Guard assistance days before. He rejected the request days before “Do to Optics”.

The democrats wanted this happen so they could use it against any republican that ran for President in 2024.

Like anyone ultimately in charge that person is responsible!

The President is ultimately in charge of the military.

You spelled it our very accurately Chase. With the following exception which Chizzy explained

The Speaker of the House (Pelosi on Jan 6) oversees and has the ultimate decision making over the capitol police. The way it works is the chief of the Capitol Police answers to the Sergeant at Arms of the House who is the chief law enforcement and protocol officer of the House of Representatives and is responsible for maintaining order in the House side of the United States Capitol complex. The Sergeant at Arms reports directly to the Speaker of the House. So :

Pelosi > House Sergeant at Arms > Capitol Police

Alas the left are immune to the real facts and just make things up

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by berryberry

And you clearly are forgetting your history. Just in recent times Al Gore claimed the election was stolen and went to court, forced selective recounts, etc, etc. Hillary Clinton in 2016 claimed the election was stolen and hatched the false Russian Disinformation plot.

Ok, I'll bite.

What did the investigations find out about Al Gore's claims, as well as Hillary?

Were their claims dis-proven? Yeah!
Were the people in both Gore's and Hillary's camp still up in arms after it was proven false? Nope!
Were either of those two part of the party that lost, and then claimed fraud? Yeah!
Did they shut up about it after investigations proven that what the claims to have happened, didn't? Yeah! They weren't sore losers.


Trump is the pinnacle of sore a loser and the manchild who cried wolf. But that doesn't matter, because MAGAs only selectively believe what facts they are told to believe, by the people who are in the business of deciding what people should believe.



The fact that they are still going on and on about how it wasn't an insurrection, when it was, is a joke to the entire Republican party. They are already adding this into the history books.

[berryberry]

Originally Posted by onawbtngr546

Ok, I'll bite.


The fact that they are still going on and on about how it wasn't an insurrection, when it was, is a joke to the entire Republican party. They are already adding this into the history books.

I must have missed you answering this. Why was it that the Democrats had already hatched a disinformation plan in advance to falsely label Jan 6 an insurrection?

[onawbtngr546]

Originally Posted by berryberry

I must have missed you answering this. Why was it that the Democrats had already hatched a disinformation plan in advance to falsely label Jan 6 an insurrection?

That's an easy question.


They didn't. At least according to any news station that isn't MAGA propaganda

[tommy156]

Oh, MAGA propaganda, is there no load of horseshit you can't make these people believe? Lol.

I mean, in a way, I understand the propagandists here. They've never had an easier gig in their lives. The trump cult will literally believe anything they're told.