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09-30-2010, 06:43 AM
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#16
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User ID: 3716
Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: San Antonio
Posts: 2,172
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When I give a vouche for guy, I always handle it like this...
Option A:
He was a great guy. Really nice. Physical description, When I saw him last, and his hygeine was great.
If I have seen the guy but it wasn't the greatest of times...
Option b:
Yes I have seen him. He isn't a cop and he will pay you.... however be aware of this or that. Just for your information.
I am not refussing to give him a vouche but I will tell you the things that made the guy uncomfortable like he tried to negotiate the rates.. or you might want to insist on starting his time with him in the shower... just examples not speaking of anyone in paticular.
We providers aren't limited to just a yes or no on this site... and can give those details...
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09-30-2010, 08:49 AM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: Texas
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Here's another angle:
In a way, isn't not being judged part of why the hobbiest is paying?
The financial transaction, to me has always been about being able to play with ladies that I may not be able to get to give me the time of day outside the hobby. I don't think I'm ugly or stinky and I keep myself in good shape but I don't have "game", I'm not a player and tend to be a little nerdy and shy around beautiful women. Basically, I feel like I'm paying for her to lower her standards a little with me and make me feel like I actually could get a girl like her to like me enough to do all those wonderfully nasty things we do for an hour.
Now, certain base-level standards are a given in any business and in this one, those include hygiene and courtesy. I agree with that. It is of course the lady's perogative how she runs her business and who her clients are. But, if those standards get too high, then isn't it really just normal dating? And in normal dating, who wants to pay for someone's time?
I guess the rating idea is OK as long as it's private but the slippery slope argument is valid here. What happens to nice guys who do always finish last? Will they not even be able to pay to finish first occasionally? Isn't that one of the main reasons a lot of us men hobby in the first place?
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09-30-2010, 09:56 AM
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User ID: 3716
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Location: San Antonio
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Todd,
We are not talking about those types of things. We are more talking about if he was a little too rough, or he wasn't very clean, or he tried to get bbfs... these things have nothing to do with your "game" just common curtosy and respect for us ladies...
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09-30-2010, 10:18 AM
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Join Date: Jan 4, 2010
Location: Texas
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Right NJ, I'm aware of that but was just pointing out the slippery slope argument for the discussion's sake. Especially in the context of some folks suggesting a rating system for the guys. I can see some guys possibly getting a bad rating for things that have nothing to do with the obvious things that were mentioned.
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09-30-2010, 10:40 AM
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I can say every vouche I have given or gotten... I have never heard a lady say... well he is not very good in bed.. or he is not brad pitt.. or he is a dork...
I don't think that us ladies are preoccupied with that AT ALL... at least I am not. I don't open the door and size a guy up by his looks.. or sense of humor. If he is nice to me, respects me, pays my asking donation, and is clean. Then I am more than happy to give him flying colors..
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09-30-2010, 01:47 PM
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Join Date: Sep 14, 2010
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Originally Posted by Naughty_Jezabelle
I can say every vouche I have given or gotten... I have never heard a lady say... well he is not very good in bed.. or he is not brad pitt.. or he is a dork...
I don't think that us ladies are preoccupied with that AT ALL... at least I am not. I don't open the door and size a guy up by his looks.. or sense of humor. If he is nice to me, respects me, pays my asking donation, and is clean. Then I am more than happy to give him flying colors..
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Me too
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09-30-2010, 02:32 PM
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Join Date: Feb 23, 2010
Location: San Antonio, TX
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Originally Posted by Sa_artman
(how did I miss that juicy exchange? c'mon Jsmith, that was harsh even for me)
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I'm just setting her up for when we meet and have the greatest hate sex that's ever been had.
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09-30-2010, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 9, 2010
Location: Texas
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[quote=[B]Naughty_Jezabelle[/b];630834]I can say every vouche I have given or gotten... I have never heard a lady say... well he is not very good in bed.. or he is not brad pitt.. or he is a dork...
I don't think that us ladies are preoccupied with that AT ALL... at least I am not. I don't open the door and size a guy up by his looks.. or sense of humor. quote]
Say Halleluiah... 'cause I'm probably a real dud in bed. And...let me see...where is that mirror.....hmmm maybe if I had more hair, got rid of the tri-focals.....errr....ah.... nawww....I'm not Brad Pitt either....DAMN IT!
LOL….I was married over 20 years before my SO ever had an O.
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09-30-2010, 03:34 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: 210
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Come on people its not Rocket Science. A 5 Star System could be used for example.
5 Categories with either a Star or no Star.
1. On Time
2. Appearance I.E. Dirty/Smell/Drunk/Rude/Jerk
3. Correct Donation Paid
4. Did you feel comfortable/safe during the session
5. Would you see him again or Recommend him
Then no feelings are hurt & ladies don't have to wait for call backs which means they can see more clients = more $
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09-30-2010, 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Crispy1969
Come on people its not Rocket Science. A 5 Star System could be used for example.
5 Categories with either a Star or no Star.
1. On Time
2. Appearance I.E. Dirty/Smell/Drunk/Rude/Jerk
3. Correct Donation Paid
4. Did you feel comfortable/safe during the session
5. Would you see him again or Recommend him
Then no feelings are hurt & ladies don't have to wait for call backs which means they can see more clients = more $
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This would be perfect  It would save so much time!
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09-30-2010, 06:25 PM
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Join Date: Dec 31, 2009
Location: 210
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Y'all can Tweak & Tune it to suit your needs Ladies just a thought.
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09-30-2010, 07:14 PM
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Join Date: Aug 22, 2010
Location: texas
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I say rate us. I mean honestly, like most of the ladies said, if we show up, pay the required donation, act like gentlemen and don't try to punch them in the face and sodomize them , whats there really to worry about? it might get a provider who was curious about you but uneasy a little more sense of security. At the end of the day we have a pretty limitless supply of info on them why not reciprocate. I'm more likely to see a provider with good reviews because based on my peers opinions it would appear she and I would have a great time. Why can't they go in our meetings with similar information? You wouldn't buy or sell a car to some random voice on the other end of the phone with out a little back ground info on your new business partner would you? I dunno just my opinion.
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10-05-2010, 06:27 PM
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Join Date: Mar 19, 2010
Location: san antonio
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Ok, so I thought a little bit more about this and I think I have the solution that would work for everyone. Instead of having eccie develop new coding to add Client Review rating why not just have a provider start a new thread or add to an existing thread on a client in the Ladies Only section. This way a provider can get a quick reference and an understanding of what a potential client is like prior to booking.
It would go something like this -
Thread Title - Shavedmale93 (the clients username)
In the Message the provider could copy and paste the following along with a yes/no (stealing this from Crispy)
1. On Time - Yes
2. Appearance I.E. Dirty/Smell/Drunk/Rude/Jerk/fresh good hygiene/showered before
3. Correct Donation Paid
4. Did you feel comfortable/safe during the session
5. Would you see him again or Recommend him
Then place any other pertinent info you would like. After seeing someone you could add to or start a new thread with this. Perhaps the client could even request a thread from the appointment. This way it is private in the ladies sections, no clients would ever see it so no need to worry about our feelings and it allows for a very efficient and safe system for the providers. Plus it would only be as good a tool as the providers wanted it to be, I think eventually the value could be there.
Now I know I preference all of this with, of course all the threads are about dreams we have all had and do not reflect actual encounters. <big smile>
Ok so I am know up to my 4 cents...
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10-05-2010, 11:32 PM
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Join Date: Jul 5, 2010
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 530
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IMHO - I think just be honest...not vindictive or mean - simply honest...For me, I know that I make sure that I am clean, respectful and reciprocal...I want to be those thing because I want to have a good time...I am offended if the provider does not take as much care and will let her know directly. If that has caused me a vouch, which it has, I am okay with that...I think your overall record speaks for itself in the long run. Personally, I want to know if something is wrong. I think most guys would so they don't do it again or they change something.
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10-06-2010, 07:50 AM
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User ID: 23786
Join Date: Apr 23, 2010
Location: austin
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crispy, as a newish provider without a "base" or regular gents that 5 star system would make my life so much easier and make it easier for me to meet with gents in a timely manner... The force is stong with this one.... lol
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