IMPORTANT TO THE MEN -- Regarding bmax Review: BP Lacey is the real deal

[Helicopter206]

This looks like, she was trying to defend herself from a beating.
Looking at the placement of the deep black bruises on her arms.
BTW, most of these new providers don't have management, ya right.
http://kc.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts...image=14944917
Just maybe she likes being tied up, really tight.
Look at her swollen wrest.
Along with the bruises under her panties.

[noleftturn]

Jayhawker do you wear a fuzzy purple hat? You have worries of stings that obviously have holes in the story. Now you KNOW this girl and have conversations but she refuses to post her side. Dude you are like a used dirty diaper. You would be better off taking a vacation from this board. Nobody believes the crap you say.

[lacrew_2000]

1. This girl really is 23
2. She is not in school
3. She is not pimped
4. She dances and bruises easily - nobody beat her
5. She was not imported here - she has lived in the metro her whole life

No its not all skittles and rainbows for her....she has her problems. But being pimped or beat by a pimp aren't one of them. She is very much in control of what she is doing.

I don't want to say how I know about her....but I am certain about what I have stqted above.

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by noleftturn

Jayhawker do you wear a fuzzy purple hat? You have worries of stings that obviously have holes in the story. Now you KNOW this girl and have conversations but she refuses to post her side. Dude you are like a used dirty diaper. You would be better off taking a vacation from this board. Nobody believes the crap you say.

For 1 she is not on ECCIE so she can't post her side. She is on P411 which I believe they do verify their ladies.

fredhgolightly and noleftturn my friends I do not know either of you but your comments were totally out of line.

If you want to earn points you shouldn't do it at the expense of some young lady that you don't know. There was nothing I said negative but yet you attacked as if you were overtaken by rabies. You are insolent individuals and even though you looked great to them by attacking me you are a failure in every other sense.

Karma is painful my friend and I pray you do not have to meet it. I hope the best for you.

Originally Posted by lacrew_2000

1. This girl really is 23
2. She is not in school
3. She is not pimped
4. She dances and bruises easily - nobody beat her
5. She was not imported here - she has lived in the metro her whole life I didn't want to put her business out there like that but I started to add this when they talked about made up i.ds, passports and other documents.

No its not all skittles and rainbows for her....she has her problems. But being pimped or beat by a pimp aren't one of them. She is very much in control of what she is doing. Exactly. Her heart is very big and she is trying.

I don't want to say how I know about her....but I am certain about what I have stqted above.

This is all I am saying. Thank you very much.

[lacrew_2000]

Jayhawker...I would say you are in 'Stage 1' of knowing Lacey. Keep in mind she is an on and off stripper.....and all strippers are in school of course....and they are always fighting some injustice - the manager is being unfair to her or another girl stole her money.

I have tried to dispell some inaccurate speculation about her......but please don't infer that I am corroborating everything she tells you about herself. IOW be careful.

[Guest013121]

Originally Posted by lacrew_2000

Jayhawker...I would say you are in 'Stage 1' of knowing Lacey. Keep in mind she is an on and off stripper.....and all strippers are in school of course....and they are always fighting some injustice - the manager is being unfair to her or another girl stole her money.

I have tried to dispell some inaccurate speculation about her......but please don't infer that I am corroborating everything she tells you about herself. IOW be careful.

So true! Lol. So very true. Haha

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by lacrew_2000

Jayhawker...I would say you are in 'Stage 1' of knowing Lacey. Keep in mind she is an on and off stripper.....and all strippers are in school of course....and they are always fighting some injustice - the manager is being unfair to her or another girl stole her money.

I have tried to dispell some inaccurate speculation about her......but please don't infer that I am corroborating everything she tells you about herself. IOW be careful.

I understand. I have no grand illusion that I have made allies I understand I am a troll and such and such. I just wanted someone else to stand up and acknowledge the truth pertaining to this young lady.

What I do appreciate and thank you for is that even under the barrage of criticism I was taking you jumped in the trenches and battled on the front lines for this young lady who did not deserve to have it said that she was being pimped, beaten and alluded to that she was being trafficked.

As for stage 1 - I actually know her true story so if that is stage 1 then yes. I don't call her by the name she is titled here or in her other reviews.

I just simply wanted the main points that she is not being pimped, she is not bruised about her whole body and she is not involved in sex trafficking to be cleared up.

(before I am derided for using a war term. I am a soldier and I have literally dug those trenches and been in them)

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by lacrew_2000

1. This girl really is 23
2. She is not in school
3. She is not pimped
4. She dances and bruises easily - nobody beat her
5. She was not imported here - she has lived in the metro her whole life

No its not all skittles and rainbows for her....she has her problems. But being pimped or beat by a pimp aren't one of them. She is very much in control of what she is doing.

I don't want to say how I know about her....but I am certain about what I have stqted above.

Who said anything about her being imported from out of the country? I said that these men/pimps/traffickers get US documents from the dark net. You don't need to be from another country to have a need for fake US documents. Again not saying that she is underage.

I said in my initial post that she may not be underage, but that her body was in fact covered in dark bruises. It was enough that I studied her photos so that I was 100% certain that they were bruises. I am no bruise expert though, or maybe I am...

Before I started escorting 7 1/2 years ago, I had been a stripper many moons before. In all of the years the only girl I ever saw covered in bruises like that was another stripper who had got the shit beat out of her by her boyfriend in our freaking dressing room. NONE of the other strippers were ever covered in bruises unless it was on their knee caps until they got used to the hard wood floors.

Thirdly, does anyone not find it just a tad bit interesting that this girl (a stripper/escort) posts on backpage, has a P411 account BUT has yet to have a Verified Provider account on ECCIE or even a freaking post to say "Hey"???? I combed through the provider showcases, and she is no where to be found. Not saying this is always true, but backpage girls usually desire to get a Verified Provider account on ECCIE because the quality of men contacting them goes up drastically.

Why only have a P411 and backpage listing, and not have an ECCIE account which is widely used in the Kansas City area? This just doesn't even add up to me.

The main point about this post was me caring about someone enough to give a shit, and say something. We can't turn and look the other way all the time. Let me just say that I can not turn and look the other way. Something was not right about those photos I saw on October 25th. It was bad enough that I was so upset I was on the verge of tears worrying about the future of her safety and well-being.

I would rather be wrong doing this with a right heart, than doing it right with a wrong heart.

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Who said anything about her being imported from out of the country? I said that these men/pimps/traffickers get US documents from the dark net. Saying that she has illegal documents is alluding to her being underage and trafficked. Not everything said is expressed sometimes it is just implied.

I said in my initial post that she may not be underage, but that her body was in fact covered in dark bruises. It was enough that I studied her photos so that I was 100% certain that they were bruises. I am no bruise expert though, or maybe I am... You keep saying her body is covered in bruises when that is not the case. Just to clarify she has burn marks on her hands, they are not bruises yes, they are burn marks.

Thirdly, does anyone not find it just a tad bit interesting that this girl (a stripper/escort) posts on backpage, has a P411 account BUT has yet to have a Verified Provider account on ECCIE or even a freaking post to say "Hey"???? I combed through the provider showcases, and she is no where to be found. Not saying this is always true, but backpage girls usually desire to get a Verified Provider account on ECCIE because the quality of men contacting them goes up drastically. She does not want to be on ECCIE. She said she did not want to for her own personal reasons she choose P411. Is it against the rules to not be on ECCIE. Just think if she on this site and had you attacking her saying she was being pimped and trafficked. Why deal with that negative drama. Why is it so important to you that she be on ECCIE. I find that odd. IF someone does not agree with what you say you attack them if they are not on ECCIE you attack them there is just no winning with you.

Why only have a P411 and backpage listing, and not have an ECCIE account which is widely used in the Kansas City area? This just doesn't even add up to me. Why does it not add up that she chose not to use ECCIE. Is everyone on ECCIE is it mandatory. I find it odd that you are making such a big deal out of it.

The main point about this post was me caring about someone enough to give a shit, and say something. We can't turn and look the other way all the time. Let me just say that I can not turn and look the other way. Something was not right about those photos I saw on October 25th. It was bad enough that I was so upset I was on the verge of tears worrying about the future of her safety and well-being. When I cared enough I sent you a private message. You know what I wrote you about staying strong even when you are attacked. I didn't ask you for anything, I didn't try to gain favor with you, I didn't ask you for a visit. I did none of that I simply told you I supported you. Why couldn't you have extended that same courtesy to this young lady. Why post it on here instead of simply calling or texting her. It is very easy. The same ad you studied so very hard to determine that she was bruised from head to toe, pimped and trafficked had her phone number listed. You could have called her or text her and talk to her but no you chose this open forum to speculate and make false allegations.

You received a courtesy of a pm so why not contact her in private and then if you still felt the same way you post at that point.

I would rather be wrong doing this with a right heart, than doing it right with a wrong heart.

You would rather be wrong and damage someone yet if someone did this very thing to you then you would be up in arms.

You have written these same kind of post about other providers saying they were pimped. Do you feel that threatened by these young ladies! Do you feel because they are not on ECCIE but still making money that some how is hurting your earning power. I am just saying I do not know what it is but there is something going on. All I know is I contacted you in private to support you and you could have extended that same courtesy to her. She deserves to not be attacked and not here to defend herself. IF you were so worried to tears how was posting here going to help her, why not pick up a phone and reach out to her. ijs Like you said it seems kind of odd to me!

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker

You would rather be wrong and damage someone yet if someone did this very thing to you then you would be up in arms.

You have written these same kind of post about other providers saying they were pimped. Do you feel that threatened by these young ladies! Do you feel because they are not on ECCIE but still making money that some how is hurting your earning power. I am just saying I do not know what it is but there is something going on. All I know is I contacted you in private to support you and you could have extended that same courtesy to her. She deserves to not be attacked and not here to defend herself. IF you were so worried to tears how was posting here going to help her, why not pick up a phone and reach out to her. ijs Like you said it seems kind of odd to me!

You are an ignorant person. I do NOT even advertise on the escort or body rub sections on backpage. Also I do NOT give a care about other P411 providers because 90% of the men on P411 are married. I do NOT see married men therefor making P411 almost obsolete for me.

Sooo.. to answer your ignorant reply... NO LMAO she does NOTHING to hurt my earnings lol. To add the cherry on top she is super young, and I am hot mature MILF. We are NOT even in the same adverting category meaning we are NOT in any competition with each other.

Anymore bright ideas there genius?

Shut up, and Go away. You are a nuisance, and a thorn in most ECCIE member's sides.

Get your facts straight before you attack me or my business again.

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

Why only have a P411 and backpage listing, and not have an ECCIE account which is widely used in the Kansas City area? This just doesn't even add up to me.

The main point about this post was me caring about someone enough to give a shit, and say something. We can't turn and look the other way all the time. Let me just say that I can not turn and look the other way. It was bad enough that I was so upset I was on the verge of tears worrying about the future of her safety and well-being.

I would rather be wrong doing this with a right heart, than doing it right with a wrong heart.

By the way I would have sent the very first comment and the last comment to you in a private message but my account is no longer fully active but I do have a P411 account. Is that an issue that I have a fully active P411 account and not a fully active ECCIE account?

When I care about someone I reach out to that person I don't make a public posting attacking the person. That is not how you show that you care.

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker

By the way I would have sent the very first comment and the last comment to you in a private message but my account is no longer fully active but I do have a P411 account. Is that an issue that I have a fully active P411 account and not a fully active ECCIE account?

When I care about someone I reach out to that person I don't make a public posting attacking the person. That is not how you show that you care.

I do NOT want you contacting me in private through ECCIE pm, P411 message, text, call, email, telegraph, or any other way except here where we post in public for everyone to see.

Yeah it's real apparent that you care about all these escorts lol. Does anyone remember what he said about all of us escorts a few months ago? I sure do.

I even tried to get everyone to be nice to you when everyone was jumping all over your ass. Then you went on that tirade about us escorts, and your true colors were exposed. You are on your own.

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

I do NOT even advertise on the escort or body rub sections on backpage. You do advertise on backpage. I know this for a fact because I text and called you. I talk to you about setting up an appt to see you. Yea, I did that. So one of us is lying. Just remember text don't lie..

Sooo.. to answer your ignorant reply... NO LMAO she does NOTHING to hurt my earnings lol. To add the cherry on top she is super young, and I am hot mature MILF. We are NOT even in the same adverting category meaning we are NOT in any competition with each other. Simply her being young and guys liking younger ladies is competition. I will say again that you have posted other young ladies as being pimped without really knowing.

Anymore bright ideas there genius? Yea I have one...stop making false accusations and making up lies against other providers.

Shut up, and Go away. You are a nuisance, and a thorn in most ECCIE member's sides. I am a nuisance to you because I call you out on your bull crap. Like I told you before when you buy ECCIE and then you can take away my login and password...until then you shut your lying false accusation making MNOW2F self up

Get your facts straight before you attack me or my business again.

My facts are straight. You know you have been called out rightly. You are sad and pathetic.

[Urban Dahlia]

Originally Posted by Jayhawker

My facts are straight. You know you have been called out rightly. You are sad and pathetic.

Your facts are incorrect.
You were the one that actually got called out.
You are ignorant.

That is what we all know to be Truth. With that I bid you a good night.

Have a Blessed, and Joy filled day Jayhawker.

[Jayhawker]

Originally Posted by Urban Dahlia

I do NOT want you contacting me in private through ECCIE pm, P411 message, text, call, email, telegraph, or any other way except here where we post in public for everyone to see. You are not worth contacting. I did what I did to encourage you. I text you to expose your hypocrisy. You are a big fake hypocrite. You'll do anything to make a buck even lie on people and say horrible untruths to further your own agenda.

tyrant (that should say rant not tyrant) about us escorts Not "us" escorts but only those like you who lie and manipulate to get what you want. You'd be surprised at the escorts I have been with who like me very much. You even liked me when we talked and text.

Have a Blessed, and Joy filled day Jayhawker. Fake godliness is just as bad as no godliness. You can't attack people, be mean, evil and make up false accusations about people and then claim to be walking with God because that is not how seeking God works.

WoW!