Drivers License info for verification (newbie)

[Tiffani Jameson]

Dude. You deal with bottom feeders who don't screen. Of course you can expect those things. First, second, third, fourth choices. You have scared yourself into a crappy corner. Don't take him with you. You're that scared of a good time, go to church.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

Dude. You deal with bottom feeders who don't screen. Of course you can expect those things. First, second, third, fourth choices. You have scared yourself into a crappy corner. Don't take him with you. You're that scared of a good time, go to church.

You seem to have misunderstood my point entirely. It is not fear but the understanding that once anonymity is given up one has no way of knowing what will be done with the information. The vast majority of the time it will be a non factor, until it isn't. It is reasonable to find a way to mitigate that risk entirely should he so desire.

For you to pretend as if the scenarios I mentioned do not happen except among "bottom feeders" (whatever that means) is disingenuous. Let the man do what he is comfortable with but do so with eyes wide open rather than wear the rose colored glasses you'd have him don.

[Ed Highlight]

I have no problem showing my DL, major credit card, 3 years Tax Returns, Social Security number and 401K statements - The first time was a little awkward but, since then, I've been wiped out broke, homeless, jobless and divorced so it doesn't matter anymore.....good luck!!

[offshoredrilling]

I have seen guys destroyed by eccie VP gals
nowhere near the bottom
WK's defend her
then sooner or latter a WK gets nailed
The WK's left defend her
over and over and over again
they never see it coming
till, no job, and lost it all

[Lena Duvall]

A reminder from this summer: Neal Falls

It is unfortunate that some sex workers are in a place where using standard screening methods is not a viable option. If someone does not have an established hobby persona with references or verification via P411, RS2K, etc I'm still open to see them on the condition that they provide their RW identity and employment information. This doesn't need to be in the form of a government issued I.D. card. (I've never asked for that and don't think it's necessary.) One's full name and employment info works just fine for me to verify someone. I don't explicitly advertise that I'm "newbie friendly" since I'm still confused as to how that's even defined.

But taking many factors into consideration, from time wasters to LE to raging misogynist who are intent on annihilating sex workers... the stakes are just too high.

[SA Angel]

I'm going to do a +1 for the P411 route if you don't feel comfortable with giving your information to an actual provider.

I'm a newbie friendly provider that requires personal information before I even get to the second stage of screening a OTC public meet and greet to get a feeling for for how I and my new friend will vibe with each other. I'm just picky who I see....and I hope everyone else is too.

There are newbie friendly providers who may require less info and will also act as a reference. My advice is to post in the local board of your area and ask for suggestions. DO NOT just go with whatever provider responds to you. Ask for male input specifically.

[George Spelvin]

As already stated, P411 is your friend.

In the meantime, you have several reviews already, will any of those ladies give you a reference?

[Guest122317-1]

I guess I don't see a problem with requiring an ID.. you have to show an ID for just about anything. the girls of course are thinking about their own safety.. guy gets goods skips out with out paying.. or you get some really nasty creep.. you join date check or p411 they get all of that information and it is passed on.. the information that isn't is there in case there is a problem later on..
I guess I would be skeptical for those that don't

[Raw dog]

Do this and you could make it on the world dumbest criminals list. Imagine watching yourself on cops, you providing all your info because some girl got her ass pinched and decided to work with the cops to avoid jail time.

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

You seem to have misunderstood my point entirely. It is not fear but the understanding that once anonymity is given up one has no way of knowing what will be done with the information. The vast majority of the time it will be a non factor, until it isn't. It is reasonable to find a way to mitigate that risk entirely should he so desire.

For you to pretend as if the scenarios I mentioned do not happen except among "bottom feeders" (whatever that means) is disingenuous. Let the man do what he is comfortable with but do so with eyes wide open rather than wear the rose colored glasses you'd have him don.

As a woman, I'm offended that you think anonymity is more important than our safety. And crazy isn't hard to spot when you go in with 'eyes wide open' as you suggest.

Again, screening if no different from shaking hands with someone new at a party. You hand out business cards, tell people what you do, and what area you live in without thinking about what they're doing with your information. You're making things harder than it needs to be.

Tell you what, I'm going to start my own verification site. I promise to keep your information safe. I hope you join. I also have a great reputation for privacy.

[SpiceItUp]

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

As a woman, I'm offended that you think anonymity is more important than our safety. And crazy isn't hard to spot when you go in with 'eyes wide open' as you suggest.

Again, screening if no different from shaking hands with someone new at a party. You hand out business cards, tell people what you do, and what area you live in without thinking about what they're doing with your information. You're making things harder than it needs to be.

Tell you what, I'm going to start my own verification site. I promise to keep your information safe. I hope you join. I also have a great reputation for privacy.

When in the world did I say anonymity is more important than your safety? I am saying that one can find newbie friendly ladies who do not require personal info yet will also act as a reference. There's simply no reason for anyone to give up their anonymity when providers who do not require it exist.

You know they exist, I know they exist, and yet you act as if every provider shares your philosophy on screening newbies. They do not. I'm suggesting he find one of those thus keeping his anonymity intact while simultaneously allowing the lady to do whatever she is comfortable with.

And, once again, your analogy is weak. I've never heard of someone handing out business cards at a party and then finding themselves blackmailed or in a relationship/custody/career damaging situation. It's ludicrous on its face. Are you being purposely obtuse? Why would a gentleman expose himself to ANY amount of risk when it's unecessary?

[Tiffani Jameson]

Originally Posted by SpiceItUp

When in the world did I say anonymity is more important than your safety? I am saying that one can find newbie friendly ladies who do not require personal info yet will also act as a reference. There's simply no reason for anyone to give up their anonymity when providers who do not require it exist.

You know they exist, I know they exist, and yet you act as if every provider shares your philosophy on screening newbies. They do not. I'm suggesting he find one of those thus keeping his anonymity intact while simultaneously allowing the lady to do whatever she is comfortable with.

And, once again, your analogy is weak. I've never heard of someone handing out business cards at a party and then finding themselves blackmailed or in a relationship/custody/career damaging situation. It's ludicrous on its face. Are you being purposely obtuse?

Yes, purposely because you don't get it. Because you are either that good in bed where a WHO'RE, who's paid to LEAVE you alone would want to mess up your family life to be with you, or that much of a douche messing with the livelihood of a crazy one that believes in eye for an eye. Which one is it?

If you get out of the gutter, giving basic information that you give on a daily basis wouldn't be such a fear inducing thing. What is so wrong with admitting you're really Brad Pitt, who can prove he's just a regular guy who likes Neil Diamond and cock rings?

Remember Newton's Third Law of Motion.

[Lena Duvall]

I'd never thought about screening in a way that was so simplified. But it makes perfect sense. I guess the fear of "hookers" being unscrupulous runs deep.

Originally Posted by Tiffani Jameson

...Again, screening if no different from shaking hands with someone new at a party. You hand out business cards, tell people what you do, and what area you live in without thinking about what they're doing with your information. You're making things harder than it needs to be.

[JCM800]

Originally Posted by CavalierFan11

A provider I currently have my eye on lists taking a photo of me next to my Drivers License (info must be visible) as one of the ways I can verify myself. Is this safe or unsafe? I ask as someone who's relatively new to the hobbie.

Cavfan, if a girl insists on having a pic of you with your personal info ...then it's time to move on to the next one. And as other have already mentioned just set yourself up on p411 ...start with some newbie friendly girls ...build up some ok's ...problem solved.

[RALPHEY BOY]

Originally Posted by Lena Duvall

I'd never thought about screening in a way that was so simplified. But it makes perfect sense. I guess the fear of "hookers" being unscrupulous runs deep.

talk about run deep.. after 20 years of doing this, here are a few examples of giving up RW info can get you. (yes I am part of the 5%)

1. hubby decides to check out phone of suspicious wife ( he did not know she was providing part-time), finds my number starts to harass me,.. RW info given out

2. former Eccie Members wife finds my info on her cheating hubbys phone, starts a 2 year campaign harassing me via phone, my RW info compromised

3. was lied to by an Indy Provider who I thought was Indy.. gave my RW info only to have her Pimp harass me after she broke away from him.

those are just 3 examples of how giving up RW comes back to bite you in the ass.. Oh I hve about 5 more stories likes this.... and they were NOT bottom of the barrel Providers, most were $300 an hour

So never ever give out your RW info unless you truly feel comfortable and are willing to deal with things that happened to me..

I am single, never married, no kids. all my friends and immediate family know I bang Providers.. so really not much for me to worry about other than having some nut job wife and nut job pimps fuk with me..