~~~AN APOLOGY DO YOU AGREE OR DISAGREE~~~

[Budman]

Bibi,
This is a silly poll but it does prove my point that what CC wrote does not come across as an apology. You made an accusation that some are trying to run her off. Nothing could be further from the truth. All that was being done is informing hobbyist about her NC/NS history. If she gets her shit together and stops wasting the time and money of others all this will be forgotten.

I think the interest in this has moved on from CC and is now more about the length's some will go to excuse this behavior. You seem to be her biggest cheerleader continually making excuses for her. She apologized. She's only 20. She's new. Blah Blah Blah. All excuses. The bottom line is she wasted hours of time for several hobbyist and she does not seem to give a shit. Fine. But now if a hobbyist does a little research he will find out some valuable information. Maybe he will think it's worth the risk. Time will tell if she changes her ways or not.

[Bibi Joy]

BUDMAN let it fucken go already Im a provider plain and simple not a cheerleader nor making excuses for a girl I have never even met.

My point in this whole situation is your and everyones insistance to have her hung by her pussy for what she did will certainly drive her away from here.

LET IT FUCKEN GO ALREADY

Since this is my thread I started I am requesting it be closed!

[amoryb]

Is this an apology? - No
Does this make CC a bad person? - No, just a little immature and lacking some basic social skills. Reading her posts and comments just provides further evidence of this.

"LET IT FUCKEN GO ALREADY" - Uhhhh, no offense there Bibi, but this is kind of a non-sequitor. You can't open up a thread like this and then get angry when people respond. Doesn't quite work. Does that make you a bad person? - Nope.

You and a couple others have pointed out that CC, while wrong to screw with people's time, is young and will probably develop a better attitude with a little more experience. Are you correct? Absolutely. Does this excuse CC's actions? Not in the least. She is absolutely wrong to behave the way she is at the moment.

This is a prime example of why sites like this are useful. Hobbyists need to know who is reliable and providers need feedback of their services. Hopefully, CC will learn from this experience and grow up a little bit. This kind of behavior will harm her in every aspect of her life, both personally and professionally.

[Malachaii]

Her pussy must secrete fucking liquid opium or some shit because everyone is all tore up about this girl. It seems to boil down to two different camps.

1) Flinde/Bibi : She's young and hot let it go before you scare her away.

2) Budman : The behaviors unacceptable lets keep talkin about her till she repents or goes out of business.

It would seem that the only person winning from all these threads is CC since there is NO such thing as bad publicity. I think at this point if someone wants to see her they are well aware of the potential for shit NOT to happen. So since the onus is on them let's talk about something else less CC and more anything else

[JSmith2010]

There is such thing as bad publicity.

You think negative reviews don't mean anything to anybody here?

[Chuck12]

Originally Posted by Malachaii

2) Budman : The behaviors unacceptable lets keep talkin about her till she repents or goes out of business.

Originally Posted by Bibi Joy

My point in this whole situation is your and everyones insistance to have her hung by her pussy for what she did will certainly drive her away from here.

Before this thread is close since it was not really opened for opinions but more for people to agree with the original post.

The posts miss the point. No one is trying to drive Cristi or any provider that does NC/NS and has bad TCB skills away. The point of all this is that things like this should be reported whether the provider is young or mature so that others can take it into account before scheduling with the provider.

Will all this drive her away, no, the only one that can drive herself away is Cristi. No one is complaining about her BCD skills so she has that down. However, if she does not improve on her TCB skills, sure soon enough guys are going to get tired of it, even if she is young and cute, and she will drive herself away. The fact that this could happen should not deter the reporting of NC/NS on the board.

Also, i should point out that of the three threads about this topic, one was started by teh guy that got NC/NS which he is in his right to do. The other was started by Cristi as a response/"apology"/it is what it is to the NC/NS report. The other is this one which was started by you to try and get people to agree that the "it is what it is" post was an apology and when you did not get the responses you wanted now you claim everyone else should let it go. The only person that has opened a thread about this that was not the provider or hobbyist involved in the NC/NS was you. So after it is closed, yeah let it go.

[cowboy84]

I'm ready to move on, who's with me lol...

[Bibi Joy]

You guys are absolutely right only reason I said that was because of the ridiculous PMs I keep getting from a certain one here.

Perhaps my point has'nt come across and perhaps it has. I just know when I was younger and I was a provider I wasnt quite mature enough to deal with all that entails in providing. I got a negative review that ended up not even being true. And BAM my reputation was ruined and I stopped proving for many years.

Its alot for one to deal with theres alot of hobbiest in here that dont even see providers yet have very mean and cruel spirits. A hidden agenda you might say. It just gets under my skin the type of man that feels the need to do such a thing.

Its MYBAD to place this thread yet it points out how many of you hobbiest with good and bad opinions exist. And if I can save one provider from seeing the jerks with the bad intentions and opinions then YIPPEE!!!

Just like someone said earlier IM JUST HERE TO FUCK YOU!!!

[Chuck12]

I agree with the moving on shit.

But one final thought on your post. I agree that false reviews and reviews were a guy just writes something negative out of spite should be addressed and they usually get taken care off by our mods when the provider or a hobbyist disputes it. That was not the case here. This situation arose from an actual negative thing that occurred which the provider has admitted openly.

If we are going with the "young" argument, at least from my experience the only way i learned to correct any bs behavior I engaged in, when i was young, was by people telling me how wrong i was and that I needed to get myself straight. When I was just allowed to go on "because I was young" i kept going and never realized how wrong i was which eventually ended up in me fucking up even more.

[flinde]

"You guys are absolutely right only reason I said that was because of the ridiculous PMs I keep getting from a certain one here."

Bibi, that sounds like it could be a stalking situation. If it is, you dont need to "vent" by starting threads like this. You need to use the "ignore" feature, share inappropriate PM's with staff here, or, if it extends into the R/W, the cops.

[RickO'shayRabbitt]

An apology is when you accept responsibility for a behavior, acknowledge the hurt or wrongdoing done to the aggrieved person, ask for forgiveness and accept whatever the outcome from that apology might be.

An explanation is when you offer reasons or excuses why you do the things you do and assign responsibility to something or someone else, ie age, poor time management skills, etc.

I am not totally sure what this poll question is about but I think I know. I do not know any of the parties involved.

I do think whether you are owed an apology or not, hurling personal insults or comments toward the offender about their skin, teeth, body, etc is taking the low road and requires an apology as well.

My two cents, nothing more.

[Budman]

OK. I wasn’t going to respond anymore to this BS but between Bibi and Flinde throwing out veiled accusations of stalking I feel I need to clarify a few things. I have PM’d Bibi a total of 3 times. The last one was in response to her chicken shit reply of “stop PM’ing me or I will tell the mods” or some such shit. My reply was a very sarcastic “No please don’t tell on me”. I have no problem if all of the PM’s are made public because they were not threatening in any way. I basically told her that I didn’t want to continue a public debate in the CC thread. She made a reply and said “move on”.


A few minutes later she posted this stupid poll. So much for moving on. I wasn’t even going to reply to this thread until she got her panties in a wad because the general opinions were not to her liking. She then makes the snide remark that “this is a yes or no question” insinuating that opinions were not welcome. That’s when I replied showing her quote asking for opinions. She quickly edited her original post. I doubt that would have happened if the opinions favored her view point.

Flinde, throwing out the “stalking” card when you have no idea what was said is beneath even you. You both can kiss my ass.

[flinde]

WTF are you talking about, Budman? What "veiled threats" am I throwing out about anybody??? Ever???

I don't know who Bibi is talking about--could be Charlie Sheen for all I know. But it doesnt matter who it is, a stalking situation (if one exists) must be dealt with. So, I suggested what I suggested to Bibi.

I have never met Bibi. Never phoned or texted with her. We have never PM'ed. Apart from being co-contributors to the occasional thread, we are complete strangers.

Till your post, I had no idea that you ever PM'ed Bibi. I dont know anyone else who PM'ed her, any more than she knows who has PM'ed me.

Get a grip, my friend.

[SAKnight1982]

Originally Posted by Malachaii

It seems to boil down to two different camps.

1) Flinde/Bibi : She's young and hot let it go before you scare her away.

2) Budman : The behaviors unacceptable lets keep talkin about her till she repents or goes out of business.

I think there is no question about it...we are all obsessed with CC. I am waiting for this thread/poll to pop up next. My vote will go with option 1

[Bobave]

Originally Posted by flinde

I don't know who Bibi is talking about--could be Charlie Sheen for all I know. But it doesnt matter who it is, a stalking situation (if one exists) must be dealt with. So, I suggested what I suggested to Bibi.

Beyond disingenuous, Flinde. Everybody knew exactly what you were implying. Too clever by half and classless.