Birdbrain Republican Healthcare Plan, 24 million to lose insurance coverage!

[JD Barleycorn]

How many people don't have health INSURANCE now? The CBO keeps saying that millions MORE will not have health INSURANCE. That means people don't have insurance....why? How many? I thought Obama fixed this.

The short answer is that people decided to pay the fine if need be and not get health insurance. Millions of them. So, those 20 million who will lose their insurance? What they really mean is that a lot of people will not renew their insurance voluntarily. Which is really important to Americans.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by 00 gauge

the 24 million who will lose their health care are those worthless idiots who were mooching off Odumbocare that have no intention of working and signing up for health care, but expecting the government to force others to pay it for them .....

You must have income to qualify for a private health insurance plan on HealthCare.gov. If you do not have a job you will not get a private health insurance plan. To qualify a family of 4 must make > $24,300 and < $97,200. People in this income range qualify for a subsidy to help pay the premium. These people ARE WORKING and paying taxes!

https://www.healthcare.gov/lower-cos...r-lower-costs/


If a family of 4 makes less than $16,000 (considered the poverty level) they will qualify for Original Medicaid which was signed into law by LBJ in 1965.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

The CBO keeps saying that millions MORE will not have health INSURANCE. That means people don't have insurance....why? How many? I thought Obama fixed this.

Approximately 22 million more people have health insurance because of the ACA. Twelve million from the exchanges (HealthCare.Gov) and 10 million from state Medicaid Expansion. This is an increase from 80% to 91%. That is what got fixed. The people who live in states that did not take the Medicaid Expansion or got the exemption or pay the tax are the other 9% who are still uninsured.

With the House of Reps bill the CBO just scored funds for State Medicaid expansion goes away in 2020 and that would make 10 million people lose their health insurance.

[Muscleup]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

You must have income to qualify for a private health insurance plan on HealthCare.gov. If you do not have a job you will not get a private health insurance plan. To qualify a family of 4 must make > $24,300 and < $97,200. People in this income range qualify for a subsidy to help pay the premium but THEY ARE WORKING and paying taxes!

https://www.healthcare.gov/lower-cos...r-lower-costs/


If a family of 4 makes less than $16,000 (considered the poverty level) they will qualify for Original Medicaid which was signed into law by LBJ in 1965.

No one truly knows who will or will not lose their "health insurance". There are many complicated factors. However, Obama care is not "health insurance". Insurance is something you purchase prior to an event.

Supposedly, there are varying ranges of tax credits/subsidies available depending on your income. Still, the middle class gets their ass kick and subsidize lower class. I myself can never benefit from my worthless Obamacare. The deductible is too high. My premiums are ridiculous.

My vote is to repeal and let the market take over. As for the pre-existing in the lower class, separate that issue for another day.

All the bullshit on MSNBC, ABC, CBS, etc... saying thousands of millions are going to die the day after Obamacare is repealed is non-sense (except to retarded libs).

The others need to budget like Obama suggested in 2014 and Chaffetz did the other day and got hammered by the hypocrites in the media.

[The_Waco_Kid]

Originally Posted by flghtr65

Approximately 22 million more people have health insurance because of the ACA. Twelve million from the exchanges (HealthCare.Gov) and 10 million from state Medicaid Expansion. This is an increase from 80% to 91%. That is what got fixed. The people who live in states that did not take the Medicaid Expansion or got the exemption or pay the tax are the other 9% who are still uninsured.

With the House of Reps bill the CBO just scored funds for State Medicaid expansion goes away in 2020 and that would make 10 million people lose their health insurance.

The Lord Emperor Donald will not tolerate such disobedience from his subjects! you therefore have posted an act of treason by this post and you will be hunted down and deported as an enemy subversive to the American Hegemony!

run to Canada while u can fagger65 .. the Lord Emperor Donald's storm troopers are as we post are converging on your house to remove you from the USA of the Lord Emperor Donald!!


all resistance is futile!!! run .. run .. go to Canada u shithead!!!





bahahahahahaaa


oh did i mention that my brother .. in Kentucky .. which u have posted as some fucking shining example of ACA .. is now 5k in debt because he had kidney stones .. and ACA fucked him over?

who do u think helped him pay that??? me!! his wealthy brother i wrote him a check for 4,000 dollars to pay his out of pocket ACA expenses .. so tell us how good ACA really was?

not! bahhhhaaaaaa

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by Muscleup

No one truly knows who will or will not lose their "health insurance". There are many complicated factors. However, Obama care is not "health insurance". Insurance is something you purchase prior to an event.

Supposedly, there are varying ranges of tax credits/subsidies available depending on your income. Still, the middle class gets their ass kick and subsidize lower class. I myself can never benefit from my worthless Obamacare. The deductible is too high. My premiums are ridiculous.

1. The last day for the enrollment period to purchase a health insurance for year 2017 on HealthCare.Gov was 1/31/17. Unless one was sick in January then the insurance one purchased was purchased before one got sick. In this case the health insurance one is purchasing is "Real Insurance"

2. You do have a good point that people who are already sick can purchase insurance on HealthCare.Gov and in that example it is not really "Real Insurance" because the event the insurance company is insuring for has already occurred.

3. On the exchange (HealthCare.Gov) premiums are high for people over 50. If the cheapest premium in your zip code is higher that 10% of your monthly income you qualify for the exemption and would not have to pay a tax for being uninsured.

4. With the House bill that the CBO just scored, funds for State Medicaid expansion go away in 2020 and those people (10 million)would lose their Medicaid coverage. That is not a speculation.

[flghtr65]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

oh did i mention that my brother .. in Kentucky .. which u have posted as some fucking shining example of ACA .. is now 5k in debt because he had kidney stones .. and ACA fucked him over?

who do u think helped him pay that??? me!! his wealthy brother i wrote him a check for 4,000 dollars to pay his out of pocket ACA expenses .. so tell us how good ACA really was?

I had a kidney stone once, it passed on its own and I did not have to go to the doctor. Tell your brother to drink a lot of water. I started drinking more water and have not had another kidney stone.

So, your brother is/was in the individual market and purchased a policy at HealthCare.Gov? Did he get a subsidy from the government? Your saying his policy did not cover the medical expense to treat his kidney stone? How much more debt would he have had if he was uninsured?

The state of Kentucky did take the State Medicaid Expansion from the ACA and 300,000 citizens signed up for it.

[Yssup Rider]

Yeah, flight, but we all know it's bad to make poor people well...

There is no national health plan as long as the states and insurance companies are allowed to conspire against it.

[StandinStraight]

Originally Posted by The_Waco_Kid

The Lord Emperor Donald will not tolerate such disobedience from his subjects! you therefore have posted an act of treason by this post and you will be hunted down and deported as an enemy subversive to the American Hegemony!

run to Canada while u can fagger65 .. the Lord Emperor Donald's storm troopers are as we post are converging on your house to remove you from the USA of the Lord Emperor Donald!!


all resistance is futile!!! run .. run .. go to Canada u shithead!!!





bahahahahahaaa


oh did i mention that my brother .. in Kentucky .. which u have posted as some fucking shining example of ACA .. is now 5k in debt because he had kidney stones .. and ACA fucked him over?

who do u think helped him pay that??? me!! his wealthy brother i wrote him a check for 4,000 dollars to pay his out of pocket ACA expenses .. so tell us how good ACA really was?

not! bahhhhaaaaaa

Your the shining example that you don't have to be intelligent to be wealthy!

[TheDaliLama]

When you don't have a mandate to buy insurance many people will choose not to have it.

When you force it on them it is natural the the people who have insurance is greater.

Since the passing of Obamacare...it now costs you a fee just to be an American.

[nevergaveitathought]

Originally Posted by TheDaliLama

When you don't have a mandate to buy insurance many people will choose not to have it.

When you force it on them it is natural the the people who have insurance is greater.

Since the passing of Obamacare...it now costs you a fee just to be an American.

I don't know enough about the new bill as maybe I should but....

many of those the CBO project and claim will "loose" their insurance under the new bill are those who simply decide they dont want insurance

many however will buy catastrophic insurance, which is what obamacare is anyway, without the mandated unneeded coverages and direct subsidies inherent in obamacare

[WTF]

Neither of these plans address the real problem of health care

Debating the merits of either of these is like debating between Clinton or Trump like picking turds

[Rey Lengua]

Originally Posted by WTF

Neither of these plans address the real problem of health care

Debating the merits of either of these is like debating between Clinton or Trump like picking turds

Thanks for sharing with us that YOU are a dingleberry picker ! Bet your backwet labor enjoyed THAT part of their work day !!!

[Guest123018-4]

Healthcare is not a right granted to the people by the government.
The government should have nothing to do with this other than to assist those that have no other means and that exists in Medicaid. Even that is not the responsibility of the government.

I suppose if we were able to get rid of all the illegals that are taking American jobs, we could reduce the Medicaid rolls by having people employed at a decent wage. Home builders would have to stop using illegals and pay a decent wage for the craftsmen they need.

[WTF]

Originally Posted by The2Dogs

I suppose if we were able to get rid of all the illegals that are taking American jobs, we could reduce the Medicaid rolls by having people employed at a decent wage. Home builders would have to stop using illegals and pay a decent wage for the craftsmen they need.

Maybe we need to make it easier for the workforce to unionize! Is that wtf your dumbass is advocating for now 2bits?