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08-29-2017, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by kehaar
Who was going to get paid to do the study? How much had they contributed to the politicians who were imposing and spending my money on the study?
What sort of government funded convferences and grants have been rewarded to the people/organizations proffering the study.
It is relatively easy to follow the money trail in this sort of thing. Why doesn't the media follow it?
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The media won't follow it to avoid embarrassing and exposing some of their lying liberal hypocrite buddies !
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08-29-2017, 03:18 PM
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The media won't follow it to avoid embarrassing and exposing some of their lying liberal hypocrite buddies !
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You dumb fuc....the study said for every dollar spend in disaster mitigation you say $4 in future cost
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08-29-2017, 03:28 PM
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Fake news again. "the Obama era rules that have not yet gone into effect yet..." means that for seven plus years the rules were the same as under Bush, Bush, and Clinton got changed as Obama was leaving office. So Trump changed absolutely nothing. It was as if Obama never existed.
You two sources for the article are political hacks in the service of political organizations. This was a 500 year flood event and a 100 year hurricane event. So now it makes sense to rebuild a building for another 500 years event. Ask those poor people after Sandy. Some of them can't rebuild because it is too expensive or unfeasible to rebuild to Obama's standards. These are not pyramids.
All in all a stupid OP, just like it's author.
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08-29-2017, 03:52 PM
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[QUOTE=the_real_Barleycorn;1059 912721]
This was a 500 year flood event and a 100 year hurricane event. So now it makes sense to rebuild a building for another 500 years event. Ask those poor people after Sandy. Some of them can't rebuild because it is too expensive or unfeasible to rebuild to Obama's standards..
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You are such a fucking tool. You think that people will not or can not afford to rebuild because on say a 100k rebuild , because you are adding between 500 - 1250 dollars? And they were not even in effect yet you lying homo ex sailor leach.
Shana Udvardy, a climate preparedness specialist at the Union of Concerned Scientists, said it would be a "grave mistake" to rebuild in Texas without taking into consideration the increasing occurrence and severity of major storms. She added that the federal government will lag behind some 600 towns and cities that have already implemented requirements to build between one and three feet above the 100-year flood level.
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08-29-2017, 03:56 PM
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"If the Obama administration had simply described this as a sensible taxpayer protecting land-use measure, the regulations would still be in effect," Lehrer said.
Gripe at the Obama administration for calling it the wrong thing.
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08-29-2017, 04:04 PM
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Indeed, some Republican lawmakers have denounced the move.
"This executive order is not fiscally conservative," Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, said in a statement. "It's irresponsible and it will lead to taxpayer dollars being wasted on projects that may not be built to endure the flooding we are already seeing and know is only going to get worse."
So something that will save the taxpayers in the long term is now a liberal cause? God damn....I'm not understanding the ignorance here. Should we repeal regulations that require hurricane straps on houses? I mean after all, it would save a buck or two on the price of a house.
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08-29-2017, 04:06 PM
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Originally Posted by kehaar
Who was going to get paid to do the study? How much had they contributed to the politicians who were imposing and spending my money on the study?
What sort of government funded conferences and grants have been rewarded to the people/organizations proffering the study.
It is relatively easy to follow the money trail in this sort of thing. Why doesn't the media follow it?
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You mean like follow the study that says for ever dollar spent you save 4 in the long term?
"This not only would have protected people and property from future flood events, but also was really meant to reduce the amount of disaster aid we spend on recovery," he said....
...Studies show that taxpayers will save $4 on post-disaster aid for every $1 spent on disaster mitigation.
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08-29-2017, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by kehaar
Who was going to get paid to do the study? How much had they contributed to the politicians who were imposing and spending my money on the study?
What sort of government funded conferences and grants have been rewarded to the people/organizations proffering the study.
It is relatively easy to follow the money trail in this sort of thing. Why doesn't the media follow it?
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Everybody's busy following the flow of rubles...
And you're another illiterate hillbilly.... so many. So sad.
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08-29-2017, 04:25 PM
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Everybody's bus following the flow of rubles...
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These Trumpers do not want to follow the Rubles! That is for sure...
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08-29-2017, 04:41 PM
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had zero effect
just more blather
are you the contractor they talk about?
"much of the federal money sent to Texas will likely be wasted on construction that will be insufficiently protected from the next storm."
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Did you read the article? ....it is about future effect.
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I quoted it dummie
it had zero effect and will have only bad effect and only beneficial ones going forward
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It is hard to understand you blather. Did you get hit in the head with a golf ball. Or talk shit to the wrong person?
So do you think the Obama regulation will benefit the taxpayer in the future? Is that what I read? Here is the entire quote and not the edited one you seemed to take out of context.
.But because of Trump's rollback of Obama's Federal Flood Risk Management Standards, experts across the political spectrum say much of the federal money sent to Texas will likely be wasted on construction that will be insufficiently protected from the next storm.
"We will rebuild things that should not be rebuilt and ... in ways that are less safe and secure than they should be," Eli Lehrer, president of the DC free-market think tank R Street Institute, told Business Insider.
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08-29-2017, 09:17 PM
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Indeed, some Republican lawmakers have denounced the move.
"This executive order is not fiscally conservative," Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, said in a statement. "It's irresponsible and it will lead to taxpayer dollars being wasted on projects that may not be built to endure the flooding we are already seeing and know is only going to get worse."
So something that will save the taxpayers in the long term is now a liberal cause? God damn....I'm not understanding the ignorance here. Should we repeal regulations that require hurricane straps on houses? I mean after all, it would save a buck or two on the price of a house.
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If there has been no detectable effects of climate change on sea level, and the number and intensity of hurricanes in the gulf of Mexico has been diminished in the past 20 years, what sort of study is needed?
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The Obama-era rules, which had not yet gone into effect, would have required the federal government to take into account the risk of flooding and sea-level rise as a result of climate change when constructing new infrastructure and rebuilding after disasters.
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08-29-2017, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by WTF
Indeed, some Republican lawmakers have denounced the move.
"This executive order is not fiscally conservative," Rep. Carlos Curbelo, a Florida Republican, said in a statement. "It's irresponsible and it will lead to taxpayer dollars being wasted on projects that may not be built to endure the flooding we are already seeing and know is only going to get worse."
So something that will save the taxpayers in the long term is now a liberal cause? God damn....I'm not understanding the ignorance here. Should we repeal regulations that require hurricane straps on houses? I mean after all, it would save a buck or two on the price of a house.
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It figures that YOU would find a way to use the words " strap on " in your post, hovel builder ! Isn't that what YOU eunuchs use to " satisfy " each other every day ?
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08-30-2017, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by nevergaveitathought
had zero effect
just more blather
are you the contractor they talk about?
"much of the federal money sent to Texas will likely be wasted on construction that will be insufficiently protected from the next storm."
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...the house building frauds are about to descend upon Houston ...
and prey on the poor folks while sucking up FEMA money!
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08-30-2017, 04:20 AM
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It was as if Obama never existed.
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America could have been on the road to Greatness 8 years ago!
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08-30-2017, 09:00 AM
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America could have been on the road to Greatness 8 years ago!
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It was.
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