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05-10-2011, 06:55 AM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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I agree with a lot of the guys. But like the OP noted, I do notice that, with many girls, repeat dates have a law of diminishing return. What blew me away on a first date becomes routine on the 10th. To keep me coming back there needs to be something more than 'an act', there has to be some kind of a connection. And keeping things fresh always helps.
Luckily for me, because I travel, I might be in one town several times over a month and then not be back for several months. But when I see a girl I like, I'll keep going back to her. I have my "Tulsa" girl, my "Springfield" girl, my "Wichita" girl, etc. I try to keep in touch between visits, but when we get back we have the fun of intimacy of having visited each other before, but none of the staleness of having a repeat of last week's date....
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05-10-2011, 09:04 AM
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Join Date: Aug 17, 2010
Location: Traveling
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I repeat with a lady because I enjoyed my time with her; it was fun and hot. Hopefully, there was some connection. She showed me that she was appreciative that I chose her out of all the local and touring ladies. Some gratitude and true humility is appreciated. "I realize that there are lots of beautiful and skilled escorts and am delighted that you chose my companionship (again)."
If this continues and some obstacle doesn't enter in, I will be interested in repeating as long as she doesn't begin to take me or my choice of her for granted. If the fun and hot times begin to wane, so will my interest. I have noticed that the effort, passion, and expression of gratitude have sometimes dwindled over time. At that point, I look elsewhere.
When I feel appreciated and that a lady enjoyed my being with her, along with a fun and hot time, I want to see her soon again. That appreciation can be shown by remembering a favorite drink, favorite clothes, sexual position, things that you have shared, or something she read from your P411 profile. Appreciation is shown through discretion, not sharing details about you to other clients or fellow providers. Any lady can do those with no cost of time or money. A lady could also offer a little extra time or some OTC time for dinner or a drink or a better rate for being a regular or a guy that she wants to become a regular. A PM, text, or email telling me that she remembered fondly our date or that she thought of me when she read a post and hoped to see me takes very little time but shows appreciation. These things show appreciation and encourage not only repeat business but more frequent repeat business.
I have rarely, if ever, had a lady ask for a feedback on why I continued to meet her or why I stopped or what she could do to get my ongoing business. When I have shared some of those things considerately, I have usually felt that it has not been appreciated.
It is interesting to consider the ladies that you have met and thought that you would meet again, maybe even regularly, but never made the repeat date. Why not? Raised rates, indiscretion, difficulty scheduling, circumstances (retirement, irregular travel), another lady or ladies has grabbed your attention, not being appreciative of your choice of her?
Could it even be that some ladies secretly despise the guys who hire escorts. They try to hide it. But the longer that you know them, the more that it comes out.
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05-10-2011, 09:07 AM
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Join Date: Apr 18, 2010
Location: Kansas City
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I will start by saying that I have a tendency to keep repeating with the ladies I have a good time with. Of course there are those I have had a good time with but there was just something about the experience that made it a one and done. And for some ladies, there is no way in hell I would ever go back.
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I am pretty much the same way, but once I find a provider I am comfortable with, I pretty much stay with them exclusively. I once saw the same provider for over 5 years, and only quit when she got married to her BF and she quit providing. We still exchange email and remain friends though. One I really liked and saw frequently for a couple years moved out of town, so that sort of changed things, but we keep in touch and visit whenever she returns to the area. I like being with someone that is always clean and fresh, stays fit, and feels more like a friend with benefits than a provider. If I don't feel like that is what is going on, then I start to look elsewhere until I find it.
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05-10-2011, 09:31 AM
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Location: KC Metro Area
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Originally Posted by Redwolf
Could it even be that some ladies secretly despise the guys who hire escorts. They try to hide it. But the longer that you know them, the more that it comes out.
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I don't think these types of ladies last long in this lifestyle. If someone has that sort of outlook about the clients, then I think it would reveal itself in the way she performs and her behavior towards you.
I'm not saying that there aren't providers out there who aren't just doing it for the money, but hopefully it is a small number of them.
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05-10-2011, 09:38 AM
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Join Date: Feb 23, 2010
Location: kansas city
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Curious
This is just a curiousity on my part Redwolf and nothing more........one of the things you appreciate is a provider not talking about you to other clients or to other providers.
You have 15 reviews of providers to your credit and doing just that on eccie?
I am trying to understand the difference.
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05-10-2011, 10:04 AM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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The difference is, the provider uses reviews as a marketing tool and it's how she gets business. But most hobbiests do NOT want personal information outed. We don't post pics of ourselves, tell you where we work or what the names of our wife/kids are. I don't want you to know that.
However, a provider might obtain parts of that information as part of their screening procedure. But passing that kind of sensitive information on is a breach of trust. It does work in reverse however. I have known several providers real names and their non-work phone numbers. It would completely be a breach of trust for me to tell you that information....see the difference?
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05-10-2011, 11:32 AM
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Join Date: Feb 16, 2010
Location: KC
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Typically, 80-90% of my available schedule in KC is filled by repeat clientele that book well in advance or they have a standing, recurring appointment
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See, those standing and recurring appointments are just tough for someone like me. I'm not as young as I once was, and I have to lay down and pause every now and then.
Seriously, for me, some of it has to do with the ability of the provider to carry on intelligent conversation during the 'downtimes,' and there are downtimes. That's why I prefer a provider who's a little older (30s usually) and wiser. A woman who is interesting on many levels is a woman who is exciting to me.
But for me, scheduling flexibility also has to play into it too. My schedule is hectic as hell and it's tough for me to schedule well into advance. One of my ATF's and I are at the point where I just call and say, "OK, go ahead and tell me you're busy." My fault, not hers, but it's a bit of a joke. This inhibits my ability to have regular provider relationships.
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05-10-2011, 11:35 AM
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Join Date: Feb 23, 2010
Location: kansas city
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Got it and thanks!
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05-10-2011, 12:39 PM
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Location: bates co.
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TRUST is big on my list. I have yet to see an add that says "I am fat and ugly and will rip you off in a heartbeat." Or I am totally beautiful you can have anything you want as long as there is no touching." I have a closet full of "shirts." On the provider side she knows she is safe. When you both feel safe it leads to a better time by all. YMMV but finding the right time to ask is difficult. Discounts and speicals are nice also. Hell I usally tip the discount anyway.lol Back in my bar days I would ask the most beautiful girl in the place to dance just to get that first no out of the way. On the same note I should come up with an outlandish request.
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05-10-2011, 02:54 PM
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Gaining Momentum
Join Date: Apr 20, 2011
Location: Solar System
Posts: 88
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LADIES, being clean and fresh all over is almost as good as hot looks  10 minutes before I get there, take a shower and PLEASE NO PERFUME!!
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05-10-2011, 03:08 PM
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Join Date: Jan 1, 2011
Location: Louisiana
Posts: 9
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YMMV
I am new to this site but not to the hobby, you get what you pay for, if you expect premium service be ready to pay premium price. Vice Versa, the great thing about being a consumer is that if you do not get the premium service you paid for we have forums like this to help others know... ECCIE... Consumer Reports for the Hobby... If you are going to repeat with a provider the benefit should be the relationship you develop and comfort that comes with it... Expecting someone to lower their rate is like asking you to take less pay at work when you have more experience... it does not make sense...
The newbie's humble opinion....
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05-10-2011, 05:32 PM
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Join Date: Dec 30, 2009
Location: Omaha
Posts: 2,733
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Originally Posted by ll73
I am new to this site but not to the hobby, you get what you pay for, if you expect premium service be ready to pay premium price. Vice Versa, the great thing about being a consumer is that if you do not get the premium service you paid for we have forums like this to help others know... ECCIE... Consumer Reports for the Hobby... If you are going to repeat with a provider the benefit should be the relationship you develop and comfort that comes with it... Expecting someone to lower their rate is like asking you to take less pay at work when you have more experience... it does not make sense...
The newbie's humble opinion....
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I have been hobbying a while myself and I never noticed a positive coorelation between price and service. Maybe it's different in Louisiana than in the Kansas City area.
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05-10-2011, 07:23 PM
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Join Date: Jan 7, 2010
Location: KS
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I agree with O. I've said it before. I've overpaid a $150 girl and under paid a $500 based on their performance. But I've also had gil charge $300+ that were no better than girls I've seen fcor half the price. But you are right. Boards like this help level that field.
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05-10-2011, 08:58 PM
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Join Date: Aug 20, 2010
Location: Kansas City
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Let me preface this by saying I'm no lifetime member hobbyist relative new comer to as you can see but.....The absolute number 1 thing for me is do I "click" with a woman. If I do I'll be back time and time again..... will she lower her rate for me I don't think it would matter that much (hope she don't see this). Will there be other perks? I would hope so but don't expect it. It's not always about the money but it is ALWAYS about how we get along. Can I have a conversation with her does she listen to me(some times that's all it takes). offer suggestions? Will she share some of her personal life with me? Is there a back and forth that's the NUMBER ONE thing for me. Will our dates get in a rut maybe but that might mean its time to take a break from hobbying idk. Like all things in life there will be ups and downs. It wouldn't matter if you are the "hottest woman around or not, most expensive or not". I want to be with a woman that makes me feel good sexually and mentally. You give me that (in what ever form) I will bend over backwards to make sure it last and your taken care of as best I can. If I don't sense that (most of the time on the first meeting) out of a woman then I am out of there never to return.
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05-10-2011, 09:57 PM
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Join Date: Feb 20, 2010
Location: Kansas
Posts: 529
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Originally Posted by Redwolf
A lady could also offer a little extra time or some OTC time for dinner or a drink or a better rate for being a regular or a guy that she wants to become a regular. A PM, text, or email telling me that she remembered fondly our date or that she thought of me when she read a post and hoped to see me takes very little time but shows appreciation. These things show appreciation and encourage not only repeat business but more frequent repeat business.
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Redwolf - I couldn't agree more!! It is odd, but some ladies seem to have absolutely no sense when it comes to dealing with clients! Over the years there have been ladies whom I have seen who gladly give extra time, etc to regulars. There are a few others who NEVER do so - even though I have been a regular for a while. The only reason that I have continued to see such ladies is because of good service. On the other hand, it does get old. Especially when I have given more than is required (e.g. gift cards, tips, etc.). To be frank, I now see such providers only when others are not available. My feeling is that I don't treat them like a piece of meat and they shouldn't treat me like an ATM. Over the years there are several ladies who have appreciated my patronage and friendship, and those are the ones that continue with.
Charlie
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