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Kshunter · 06-15-2011, 06:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Obama will get drilled on jobs- but honestly the unemployment rate has gone down since he took over from Bush-

In what world has that happened? UE was at 7.6% in Jan 2009, and Obama promised us that the monster porkulus bill would keep it below 8, and back to 7 by now. Instead it's 9.1.

http://www.ncsl.org/?tabid=13307

Since Obama was inaugurated:

UE up 20%
National debt up 40%
Gas prices up over 100%

And you think he's a lock for 2012?

JD Barleycorn · 06-15-2011, 08:00 AM

Excuse me, unemployment was 7.6 % in January of 2009 (when Obama took office). Today it is 9.1 %. So the unemployment rate is higher than when Bush left office. The rate of inflation is also higher than when Bush left office. 25 % of all homes with a mortgage are in the process of foreclosure with another 25 % underwater. So half of all the mortgages in the country are in danger.

No president (other than FDR) has been reelected with unemployment over 8 %.

Obama still has to worry about a terrorist attack occurring on his watch. His Usama bump was very small and lasted about two weeks. It is gone and the majority of people polled indicate that Bush and our military deserve some of the credit. Obama has lost his luster and novelty.

deacon · 06-15-2011, 08:26 AM

Obama will get drilled on jobs- but honestly the unemployment rate has gone down since he took over from Bush-.............................. ................this is what happens when you watch rachel maddow..get a clue/

catnipdipper · 06-15-2011, 09:10 AM

COG my impressions of the show;

Was kinda like an American Idol deal. Or maybe even a Bachelor or Bachelorette deal. Synchopants come to mind. Tap dancing.

In the end I decided it was like the 7 Dwarfs.

For all you Perry hopers........................ ......remember Fred Thompson?

Work on 2016

CuteOldGuy · 06-15-2011, 09:25 AM

I don't support Gov. Perry for President, I think we have had enough southern governors for awhile. I just made a prediction based on my keen intellect, vast experience and superior intelligence. Actually, it's a WAG, but I think I'm right. We'll see.

catnipdipper · 06-15-2011, 09:53 AM

And the prediction was........................... ??

CuteOldGuy · 06-15-2011, 10:06 AM

Ok, Catnip. I will try to use shorter words so you can understand. I think that Gov. Rick Perry of Texas will be the Republican nominee (the guy Republicans want to be President) for President of the United States. I also think he will win the election (get more votes than other candidates) and be elected. (Get the job.)

OK?

CuteOldGuy · 06-15-2011, 10:07 AM

Oh, I also think he will be a disaster. (Not very good.)

deacon · 06-15-2011, 10:15 AM

LMAO..

catnipdipper · 06-15-2011, 10:15 AM

You are drinking this morning aren't you?

Ain't no way it is going to be a 3 way deal this time.

Tea Baggerz will have a voice and it wont be the party nominee.

wellendowed1911 · 06-15-2011, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JD Barleycorn

Excuse me, unemployment was 7.6 % in January of 2009 (when Obama took office). Today it is 9.1 %. So the unemployment rate is higher than when Bush left office. The rate of inflation is also higher than when Bush left office. 25 % of all homes with a mortgage are in the process of foreclosure with another 25 % underwater. So half of all the mortgages in the country are in danger.

No president (other than FDR) has been reelected with unemployment over 8 %.

Obama still has to worry about a terrorist attack occurring on his watch. His Usama bump was very small and lasted about two weeks. It is gone and the majority of people polled indicate that Bush and our military deserve some of the credit. Obama has lost his luster and novelty.

Turn off Rush and Hannity- you guys are WRONG- go to any economic site- when Obama got elected the UE rate was spiraling upwards- it didn't reach it's potential- in other words the fire had already started and economist were estimating that the UE rate would peak to anywhere between 15 to 20%- hence the reason why Obama did the bailouts and the stimulus.
Are you guys telling me that when Bush left office that the UE rate was at his peak and then when Obama got in his policies raised it higher???? Are you freaking kidding me??? If Obama didn't do the bailout and the stimulus the UE rate easily would have hit the roof at around 20 to 25% and we would have been in a DEPRESSION! Why is no one seeing the other side- Obama could have fucked up and easily had us in a Depression. If any of you guys think that {choose any candidate you want} would have got elected in 2008 and our unemployment rate would today be at 4%- call me because I got some great ocean front property to sell you. This recession is worldwide- it's not going to be fixed in 1 day or even one Presidential term. Did Reagan fix everything in his first term from the mess he inherited from Carter? Hell No!
If I was a CEO of ACME corporation and due to my bad decision the company tanked and while I was CEO things were going horrible where 20% of the workers had to get laid off- now if one of you guys took over and let's say another 10%(30% total) got laid off the day one of you guys took over which was trickled over from my term as CEO. Would it be fair to say that although ACME now has laid off 30% of employees that the 30% lay off is all on the new CEO????
Honestly how much of the UE rate can be attributed to Bush versus Obama? I assure of the 9.1 % that are UE 90% of them are directly the results of George Bush's term- you can't even debate the issue. Obama did not cause this mess- the only way he's not a lock for 2012 is if the UE rate rises significantly over the next year. There's not one sensible economist who can honestly say the 9.1% UE rate is directly the result of Obama's administration.

Kshunter · 06-15-2011, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wellendowed1911

Turn off Rush and Hannity- you guys are WRONG- go to any economic site- when Obama got elected the UE rate was spiraling upwards- it didn't reach it's potential- in other words the fire had already started and economist were estimating that the UE rate would peak to anywhere between 15 to 20%- hence the reason why Obama did the bailouts and the stimulus.
Are you guys telling me that when Bush left office that the UE rate was at his peak and then when Obama got in his policies raised it higher???? Are you freaking kidding me??? If Obama didn't do the bailout and the stimulus the UE rate easily would have hit the roof at around 20 to 25% and we would have been in a DEPRESSION! Why is no one seeing the other side- Obama could have fucked up and easily had us in a Depression. If any of you guys think that {choose any candidate you want} would have got elected in 2008 and our unemployment rate would today be at 4%- call me because I got some great ocean front property to sell you. This recession is worldwide- it's not going to be fixed in 1 day or even one Presidential term. Did Reagan fix everything in his first term from the mess he inherited from Carter? Hell No!
If I was a CEO of ACME corporation and due to my bad decision the company tanked and while I was CEO things were going horrible where 20% of the workers had to get laid off- now if one of you guys took over and let's say another 10%(30% total) got laid off the day one of you guys took over which was trickled over from my term as CEO. Would it be fair to say that although ACME now has laid off 30% of employees that the 30% lay off is all on the new CEO????
Honestly how much of the UE rate can be attributed to Bush versus Obama? I assure of the 9.1 % that are UE 90% of them are directly the results of George Bush's term- you can't even debate the issue. Obama did not cause this mess- the only way he's not a lock for 2012 is if the UE rate rises significantly over the next year. There's not one sensible economist who can honestly say the 9.1% UE rate is directly the result of Obama's administration.

If you're that disconnected from reality, it's impossible to take you seriously.

catnipdipper · 06-15-2011, 01:39 PM

So 7 candidates were there. If you added Rudy G, Chris Christie(Sir Cumference), Rick Perry, and maybe Mitch Daniels you would have the 7 Dwarfs become 11 Dwarfs with Mitch Daniels being one for real.

Then there is still Huntsman and Palin and .........................

These people must have found a way to make a lot of money doing this candidacy thing???

You Tea Baggerz and GOPers must be squirming big time.

CuteOldGuy · 06-15-2011, 01:58 PM

Whoever wins, it will be a disaster. I just think Gov. Perry will be the next President. I'm not happy about, I just think that.

Be that as it may, I am going to enjoy my grandkids, listen to good music, enjoy adult beverages with friends, and hobby when I get the chance. No sense letting the country go down the tubes ruin everything. Oh, and I enjoy stirring the puddin' here, you guys are a lot of fun!

catnipdipper · 06-15-2011, 02:02 PM

You sir are a flaming MODERATE!!