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			08-20-2019, 11:31 AM
			
			
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				I have never seen you post that Trump was wrong about anything. 
			
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			08-20-2019, 11:36 AM
			
			
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				Let me go on record to say: Trump was dead wrong for NOT locking her up    
			
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why did he drop the subject? I supported Hillary jail time. was it just a schoolyard chant, that was never supposed to mirror real life?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 11:51 AM
			
			
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				why did he drop the subject? I supported Hillary jail time. was it just a schoolyard chant, that was never supposed to mirror real life? 
			
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			08-20-2019, 11:59 AM
			
			
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				the Socialist Left. 
 
see, I can agree with one of your points, you refuse to acknowledge anything the right does that is negative. 
			
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 The true ideology of the right is constitutional conservatism...the politicians that profess to be conservative aren't. Spending is out of control  and these trade wars are getting out of hand. 
 I think free trade should be just that...free trade but other nation don't see it that way here in lies the issue.
 
The less Gumment the better...taxes are to high and spending is out of control and nobody want to do anything about it. How anyone can vote for more intrusive Gumment with freebies that are  financially unsustainable I don't understand and both parties aren't doing doing enough to protect the sovereignty of our nation with the out of control illegal immigration. 
 
Trump is a moderate but his policies on healthcare, tighter border security, less taxation and being against the socialists belief on the man made global warming, these are the things I agree with him about. I vote for people that espouse me beliefs not their beliefs. there is nothing in the ideology of the left I believe in. 
 
 I help people by donating my time and money to the less fortunate, I find that private charities help the needy with a lot less waste then with Gumment involvement. I believe that the left has enabled  generations with handout for life. Without the need for these handout the left would have no platform.
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			08-20-2019, 12:03 PM
			
			
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				The true ideology of the right is constitutional conservatism...the politicians that profess to be conservative aren't. Spending is out of control  and these trade wars are getting out of hand. 
 I think free trade should be just that...free trade but other nation don't see it that way here in lies the issue.
 
The less Gumment the better...taxes are to high and spending is out of control and nobody want to do anything about it. How anyone can vote for more intrusive Gumment with freebies that are  financially unsustainable and both parties no doing enough to protect the sovereignty of our nation with the out of control immigration. 
 
Trump is a moderate but his policies on healthcare, tighter border security, less taxation and being against the socialists belief on the man made global warming these are the things I agree with him about. I vote for people that espouse me beliefs not their beliefs. there is nothing in the ideology of the left I believe in. 
 
 I help people by donating my time and money to the less fortunate, I find that private charities help the needy with a lot less waste then with Gumment involvement. I believe that the left has enabled  generations with handout for life. Without the need for these handout the left would have no platform.
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well fuck, I agree with a lot you posted here. I think you overstate the efficacy of private donations and time, but your general ideology is pretty much mine.
 
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			08-20-2019, 12:13 PM
			
			
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				well fuck, I agree with a lot you posted here. I think you overstate the efficacy of private donations and time, but your general ideology is pretty much mine. 
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Politics and religion are hot topics...we all have our view and it would take a hell of a lot to convince me otherwise about my beliefs. 
 I have been involved in private charities for over 25 year and I know how the donated item are getting to the intended recipients...it has been very efficient as with the people who over see these charities I'm involve with...no bloated bureaucracy  to deal with. 
Your ideology differs from mine in that there is  NO democrap I would support.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:16 PM
			
			
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				I have been involved in private charities for over 25 year and I know how the donated item are getting to the intended recipients...it has been very efficient as per the people who over see these charities I'm involve with...no bloated bureaucracy  to deal with. 
			
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that's good to hear.. but you do know most Charities are not very efficient, yes?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:38 PM
			
			
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				I guess that is the position of the Right-Wing Churches and Ministers, and why they refuse to say anything negative about Trump's often un-Christ-like behavior. fucking sell outs. 
			
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Okay CT - please provide the examples of "un-Christ-like behavior. " 
None of us are perfect as human beings. 
 
Why do the black churches not condemn Louis Farrakhan and other black Racist and terror supporting organizations and individuals. 
 
I think you tar all churches with a brush much too broad, and did I above!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:45 PM
			
			
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  She would need to be indicted first..like many of his  associates/friends
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:47 PM
			
			
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				why did he drop the subject? I supported Hillary jail time. was it just a schoolyard chant, that was never supposed to mirror real life? 
			
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Honestly, I'm not real sure about that. I think he said it to try and heal past the election after seeing how badly it devastated her by loosing. Remember when he said something like, she's not all bad or what not? But then, I rewatched his last pre-election video and noticed that he seems to literally despise her, loath her even, on a personal level. Don't know what he knows that we do not know.
 
Maybe the optimist in me says he's plying his time, similar to how a cat does with a mouse, until he has the noose tight. But I dunno with certainty.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:49 PM
			
			
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				on contrare...
			 
			 
			
		
		
		
			
			
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				She would need to be indicted first..like many of his  associates/friends 
			
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Not in lefty-looney land. Oh no siree Bob. Guilty first, then sentencing, followed by a nice clean  trial. Kavanaugh ring any bells. How's that Russia, Russia, Russia, oops, now Racist working for ya?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 12:59 PM
			
			
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				Not in lefty-looney land. Oh no siree Bob. Guilty first, then sentencing, followed by a nice clean  trial. Kavanaugh ring any bells. How's that Russia, Russia, Russia, oops, now Racist working for ya? 
			
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  Kavanaugh  was never indicted...no evidence that he commtited a crime
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 02:59 PM
			
			
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				What poll did you put your faith with in 2016...because you were SOOOOO sure Hellery had it in the bag...just waiting for the Jan. 2017 coronation. You do remember SPEED?? 
			
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How about a response to my post? What do you now think about the survey you cited?
 
I remember missing on my 2016 predictions, as did many. I made no excuses. I also remember predicting the 2018 mid-term elections almost perfectly.  I also nailed the Texas Senate race -- O'Rourke would lose but by less than 5%. I have yet to predict a winner in the 2020 presidential race.
 
BTW, I have asked you several times but you seem to avoid answering the question.  You have predicted a Trump landslide victory in 2020.  A landslide has no true definition but most would say it would be a 70% of the electoral votes. 375 to be exact. Trump won 304 electoral votes in 2016 which means he will need 71 additional in 2020 to make it a landslide.  So which states will Trump win in 2020 that he did not win in 2016?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			08-20-2019, 03:09 PM
			
			
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				SPEED votes personality not ideology. 
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As I've said numerous times.  You know absolutely nothing about my viewpoints on the political issues that are most important to voters:
 
Immigration 
Abortion 
Gun rights 
Healthcare 
Taxes 
Foreign affairs 
Income and wealth distribution 
Climate change 
Treatment of women  
The LGBTQ community
 
So you can continue in your ignorance and make statements about me that are not true if you so desire.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
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