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Old 07-08-2020, 06:06 PM   #16
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Looks like a Democratic tsunami is building instead of a blue wave.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/08/polit...ate/index.html

Yes, it is CNN and Chris Cillizza. But he is not the only source of this analysis. The GOP's own poll analysts are starting to see the same thing and GOP candidates are starting to distance themselves.

Trump is going to screw the entire GOP.
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Old 07-08-2020, 06:12 PM   #17
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Biden wins the electoral college, 345 to 193 and the popular vote by 6%. Republicans win the Alabama Senate election. Democrats pick up seats in Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and either Montana or North Carolina. So the Senate is split 50/50 and our new Vice President, a woman of color, is the deciding vote. The Democrats keep control of the House.

Chuck Schumer, the new Senate Majority Leader, ends the filibuster. Biden appoints a successful, aggressive plaintiffs attorney as new Attorney General as payback for massive campaign contributions. Said attorney goes to work putting Republicans in jail, starting with Trump and family.

The economy initially does reasonably well as recovery from Covid-19 occurs. As the price of oil recovers, the politicians hamstring the domestic industry with restrictions on fracking and drilling on public lands so the USA again becomes an importer. Taxes go up, initially on corporations and the wealthy and then on everyone. But the politicians will continue to spend it faster than it comes in, so the government budget deficit goes up too. Employment remains high, partly as a remnant of Covid and partly because the Democratic controlled government encourages people not to work. But we limp along well enough so that Democrats retain control of government and are in reasonably good shape going into 2024.

In 2024 the Republicans run their dream "South Carolina" team of Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. The Democrats run Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who wins and appoints Ilhan Abdullahi Omar as her secretary of state. She also institutes a wealth tax of 90%, income tax of 70%, and death tax of 80% on billionaires. She taxes other productive Americans at somewhat lower rates. This of course starves businesses of capital and wipes out peoples' motivation to work hard. Despite this, or actually because of this, she is not able to raise enough money to pay for a universal income for all Americans, green energy including converting trucks and airplanes to solar, the 30% of GDP that will go towards the best health care for every citizen that a bankrupt nation can buy, etc., etc. So she fires all the Fed Governors and appoints a group of economists who believe like she does in Modern Monetary Theory. That is, if you're the U.S. government you can print as much money as you want and never pay it back. This does not end well, just as it did not in Weimar Germany, Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and various other banana Republics that ended up bankrupt, poor and with steeply devalued currencies.

Hopefully at this point the pendulum will start to swing and the voters will regain their sanity, like they did in Western Europe in response to socialist leaders. Someone like Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher will come along and the USA will again become great again.

All this could have been avoided if Kasich or Cruz had gotten the Republican nomination in 2016, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

mostly agree - except the 2024 predictions will be carried out in 2020 if Biden wins - the LibDems have a house backlog of bills McConnell refused - and will pass all of the Scoialist dream/nightmare bills ASAP.

Prepare to see the Bankruptcy of america in 2022 - and an attempted marxist revolution from the radical house and POTUS who succeeded Biden.



Civil War breaks out in America.

Best to arm oneself and buy lots of ammo before the Libdems prohibit all ammo and arms.
And when they come for mine - i will die wishing lead poisoning on the confiscators.
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Old 07-08-2020, 07:49 PM   #18
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Biden wins the electoral college, 345 to 193 and the popular vote by 6%. Republicans win the Alabama Senate election. Democrats pick up seats in Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and either Montana or North Carolina. So the Senate is split 50/50 and our new Vice President, a woman of color, is the deciding vote. The Democrats keep control of the House.

Chuck Schumer, the new Senate Majority Leader, ends the filibuster. Biden appoints a successful, aggressive plaintiffs attorney as new Attorney General as payback for massive campaign contributions. Said attorney goes to work putting Republicans in jail, starting with Trump and family.

The economy initially does reasonably well as recovery from Covid-19 occurs. As the price of oil recovers, the politicians hamstring the domestic industry with restrictions on fracking and drilling on public lands so the USA again becomes an importer. Taxes go up, initially on corporations and the wealthy and then on everyone. But the politicians will continue to spend it faster than it comes in, so the government budget deficit goes up too. Employment remains high, partly as a remnant of Covid and partly because the Democratic controlled government encourages people not to work. But we limp along well enough so that Democrats retain control of government and are in reasonably good shape going into 2024.

In 2024 the Republicans run their dream "South Carolina" team of Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. The Democrats run Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who wins and appoints Ilhan Abdullahi Omar as her secretary of state. She also institutes a wealth tax of 90%, income tax of 70%, and death tax of 80% on billionaires. She taxes other productive Americans at somewhat lower rates. This of course starves businesses of capital and wipes out peoples' motivation to work hard. Despite this, or actually because of this, she is not able to raise enough money to pay for a universal income for all Americans, green energy including converting trucks and airplanes to solar, the 30% of GDP that will go towards the best health care for every citizen that a bankrupt nation can buy, etc., etc. So she fires all the Fed Governors and appoints a group of economists who believe like she does in Modern Monetary Theory. That is, if you're the U.S. government you can print as much money as you want and never pay it back. This does not end well, just as it did not in Weimar Germany, Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and various other banana Republics that ended up bankrupt, poor and with steeply devalued currencies.

Hopefully at this point the pendulum will start to swing and the voters will regain their sanity, like they did in Western Europe in response to socialist leaders. Someone like Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher will come along and the USA will again become great again.

All this could have been avoided if Kasich or Cruz had gotten the Republican nomination in 2016, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

Now that is some creative writing right there! And I think it basically says what I said in a lot fewer words. If Biden and the Democrats win all 3 branch's, they will wreck this country and in a mere 2 years, the Republicans will take back the House and Senate and in 4 years, take back the Presidency and it will be heard said that Democrats will never win another election.


And if I had been a registered Republican able to vote for the nominee of the Republican party, it would have been one of the two Republicans you mentioned. I was on board with Kasich but my opinion of him changed drastically later. I think you are right though, if Cruz had been the nominee, we would have gotten most if not all of what Trump gave us without the Twitter nonsense and Republicans would be in a much better position but if this comes down to an economy and law and order election, Trump just might pull this out but it isn't looking good because it's cool to be "woke" but all those Liberal Whites are going to be in for a massive surprise when BLM turns on them and reminds them that if you are White, no matter what you say, you are a racist, period and you will be treated as such.


Don't say I didn't warn you what's coming if you go down this path with Biden. SR! Saying but, but, I voted for Biden isn't going to get you any slack if you are White.
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Old 07-08-2020, 10:00 PM   #19
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Biden wins the electoral college, 345 to 193 and the popular vote by 6%. Republicans win the Alabama Senate election. Democrats pick up seats in Arizona, Colorado, Maine, and either Montana or North Carolina. So the Senate is split 50/50 and our new Vice President, a woman of color, is the deciding vote. The Democrats keep control of the House.

Chuck Schumer, the new Senate Majority Leader, ends the filibuster. Biden appoints a successful, aggressive plaintiffs attorney as new Attorney General as payback for massive campaign contributions. Said attorney goes to work putting Republicans in jail, starting with Trump and family.

The economy initially does reasonably well as recovery from Covid-19 occurs. As the price of oil recovers, the politicians hamstring the domestic industry with restrictions on fracking and drilling on public lands so the USA again becomes an importer. Taxes go up, initially on corporations and the wealthy and then on everyone. But the politicians will continue to spend it faster than it comes in, so the government budget deficit goes up too. Employment remains high, partly as a remnant of Covid and partly because the Democratic controlled government encourages people not to work. But we limp along well enough so that Democrats retain control of government and are in reasonably good shape going into 2024.

In 2024 the Republicans run their dream "South Carolina" team of Nikki Haley and Tim Scott. The Democrats run Alexandria Ocasio Cortez, who wins and appoints Ilhan Abdullahi Omar as her secretary of state. She also institutes a wealth tax of 90%, income tax of 70%, and death tax of 80% on billionaires. She taxes other productive Americans at somewhat lower rates. This of course starves businesses of capital and wipes out peoples' motivation to work hard. Despite this, or actually because of this, she is not able to raise enough money to pay for a universal income for all Americans, green energy including converting trucks and airplanes to solar, the 30% of GDP that will go towards the best health care for every citizen that a bankrupt nation can buy, etc., etc. So she fires all the Fed Governors and appoints a group of economists who believe like she does in Modern Monetary Theory. That is, if you're the U.S. government you can print as much money as you want and never pay it back. This does not end well, just as it did not in Weimar Germany, Argentina, Venezuela, Zimbabwe, and various other banana Republics that ended up bankrupt, poor and with steeply devalued currencies.

Hopefully at this point the pendulum will start to swing and the voters will regain their sanity, like they did in Western Europe in response to socialist leaders. Someone like Ronald Reagan or Margaret Thatcher will come along and the USA will again become great again.

All this could have been avoided if Kasich or Cruz had gotten the Republican nomination in 2016, but that's the way the cookie crumbles.

thats an interesting what if 2024 prediction. however, your 2024 horse is galloping too fast.


its too early to make that kind of prediction. a lot can happen between now and November.



theres the matter of the investigations that you ignored. I think those will matter and influence how the election plays out.
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Old 07-08-2020, 11:45 PM   #20
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Old 07-09-2020, 12:19 AM   #21
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didn't you get the "woke" email? Lincoln is racist.



University of Wisconsin students say Abraham Lincoln statue at Madison campus must come down

https://www.foxnews.com/us/universit...must-come-down


Boston is taking down a statue of Abraham Lincoln standing over a freed Black man

https://www.insider.com/boston-remov...ack-man-2020-7


so was Lincoln racist and thus the Lincoln Project's invocation of Lincoln as the face of true Republicans also racist?




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didn't you get the "woke" email? Lincoln is racist.

University of Wisconsin students say Abraham Lincoln statue at Madison campus must come down

https://www.foxnews.com/us/universit...must-come-down

so woke, that wisconsin university, Madison Campus, was named after a slave owner, President Madison.
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you can't fix stupid. its forever. so sad.
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Now that is some creative writing right there! And I think it basically says what I said in a lot fewer words. If Biden and the Democrats win all 3 branch's, they will wreck this country and in a mere 2 years, the Republicans will take back the House and Senate and in 4 years, take back the Presidency and it will be heard said that Democrats will never win another election.


And if I had been a registered Republican able to vote for the nominee of the Republican party, it would have been one of the two Republicans you mentioned. I was on board with Kasich but my opinion of him changed drastically later. I think you are right though, if Cruz had been the nominee, we would have gotten most if not all of what Trump gave us without the Twitter nonsense and Republicans would be in a much better position but if this comes down to an economy and law and order election, Trump just might pull this out but it isn't looking good because it's cool to be "woke" but all those Liberal Whites are going to be in for a massive surprise when BLM turns on them and reminds them that if you are White, no matter what you say, you are a racist, period and you will be treated as such.


Don't say I didn't warn you what's coming if you go down this path with Biden. SR! Saying but, but, I voted for Biden isn't going to get you any slack if you are White.

HF - I agree- though I think that if the DPST's gain control in 2020- there will never be another free election - only One party sham elections as in China and russia.

DPST's will not submit the survival of their Marxist revolution to 'remake Amerika" to a vote with a failed economy and disregard for Rule of law in the streets of Amerika they desire.


elections in 2022 will be used to identify and track Republicans and conservative voters as 'enemies of the State" for liquidation
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..... perhaps those members will, after the 2020 results are in, wish they had been a little smarter about how they voted on that issue ..... America was watching, and many of them are pissed and don't forget .....
Think people will remember that when the Demonicrats were voting, Trump was banning flights from China and being called an alarmist, racist and xenophobe for it?

Remember when??

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HF - I agree- though I think that if the DPST's gain control in 2020- there will never be another free election - only One party sham elections as in China and russia.

DPST's will not submit the survival of their Marxist revolution to 'remake Amerika" to a vote with a failed economy and disregard for Rule of law in the streets of Amerika they desire.


elections in 2022 will be used to identify and track Republicans and conservative voters as 'enemies of the State" for liquidation

But my thinking ( such as it is ) is that what these radical Democrats will try to put in place, will offend enough Independents and even some Democrats who haven't completely lost their minds, to change back to the Republican party like the 900 or so legislative seats that changed under Obama. Yes, many changed back under Trump which points out our fickled nature, it also points out we are willing to switch parties when we feel it necessary. As long as Americans have the freedom to vote, I have faith we can correct going down the wrong path when it becomes obvious to even illegals who have been given the right to vote if Biden and gang are elected. They will want to live in a country of law and order also.



Imagine if Biden, Pelosi and Shumer all win and this chaos of killing, burning and looting continues and the Democrats don't know how to or have the will to stop it and ordinary citizens like in the movie "Purge" find themselves like the couple in St. Louis, on their front yard armed with AR's to keep the mob from burning down their mansion which the mob thinks they don't have the right to?


Who are you going to vote for then?


And on that note, I see Joe Biden has been influenced by the gang of 4 and decided that all 11 to 20 million illegals will immediately be given citizenship and the right to vote. First thought is they will vote Democrat for giving them that right but what if the scenario I laid out starts affecting them and they are set upon and there is no longer any police to call for help? Think they'll change their mind and vote for a party that wants to restore law and order to America? I do.
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Did you hear what else these radical Democrats also want? Besides disbanding police nation wide, all prisoners will be released from jail and jails closed. With no jails, you wouldn't need any courts.All illegals in detention centers will be released and there will be no more detention centers and our borders will be open so no more ICE or DEA all of which would lead to the inevitable collapse of our health care system, our education system and yes, our welfare system because we couldn't afford to take care of the millions that will come in and can't find work.


But hey, other than that, what could go wrong?
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I think the Month of September could get pretty wild. If Biden debates Trump, everyone will see how clueless Biden is.


I think it is hard to make predictions, too many people are on the polar opposites, and not much will change their minds. Democrats wanting to De fund police can't be a winning policy, if it is, the United States will no longer be beacon of freedom in the world, as the U.S. Constitution will be torn to shreds and not followed by the Democrats.
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HF - your underlying assumption is the DNC and DPST's willplay by the rules et in the Constitution.
I disagree - if the DPST get a majority in both Houses and the POTUS - they will immediately subvert the Supreme court by putting in 9-13 radical judges - and takeove is complete. The constitution, rule of law , and Equality for all under the Rule of law mean nothing to the DPST's - their riots and looting - takeover of Capitol Hill, and OBLM riots - which they look at as 'Just business" - and per hannah Jones - "not violence' - is completely acceptable to the DPST's as reasonable behavior by their minions.

They will never give up power - after all - see the reaction to losing 2016 - they have been bent on regaining power - at all costs -Never to Be Relinquished - and that cost is a marxist revolution.



I would like to think you are correct.

I plan to be ready for armed resistance to the marxist dictatorship the DNC and DPST party are planning.
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HF - your underlying assumption is the DNC and DPST's willplay by the rules et in the Constitution.
I disagree - if the DPST get a majority in both Houses and the POTUS - they will immediately subvert the Supreme court by putting in 9-13 radical judges - and takeove is complete. The constitution, rule of law , and Equality for all under the Rule of law mean nothing to the DPST's - their riots and looting - takeover of Capitol Hill, and OBLM riots - which they look at as 'Just business" - and per hannah Jones - "not violence' - is completely acceptable to the DPST's as reasonable behavior by their minions.

They will never give up power - after all - see the reaction to losing 2016 - they have been bent on regaining power - at all costs -Never to Be Relinquished - and that cost is a marxist revolution.



I would like to think you are correct.

I plan to be ready for armed resistance to the marxist dictatorship the DNC and DPST party are planning.

No, I'm under no allusion that if the Dem's win, they will play by the rules. They will do everything they can to try and cement the victory "for all time".


What I'm saying is that they will not be able to give the American people the "workers paradise" they are promising. That has been tried many times before and has always failed.


There are over 300 million guns in America unlike China, Russia, Venezuela etc. and I would dare say most are in the hands of Conservatives who will not stand idly by and watch their freedoms and their money taken from them for some abstract notion of saving the planet, social and financial justice for all which means confiscation if that's what it takes.


I don't think Americans will accept what I believe Democrats will try to do. There will be an election in 2 years and if things are as bad as I believe they will be, we will be on the road to getting back to the ideals that made us the greatest country in the world.


Americans will see and they will vote out any party that can't provide security for Americans.


It is as obvious as the nose on one's face that these Democrats have not a clue as to how they are going to control the monster they are creating.
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