Elizabeth Cheney call it like it is admits election fraud claims were a big lie for the Trump suckers

[reddog1951]

Let the ultra Rights continue their conspiracy/unproven rants. They'll split the Republicans and become little more than a minor annoyance. Too bad for the remaining "reasonable" members of the GOP, but it's on them for not reading the writing on the wall.

[GastonGlock]

Originally Posted by reddog1951

Let the ultra Rights continue their conspiracy/unproven rants. They'll split the Republicans and become little more than a minor annoyance. Too bad for the remaining "reasonable" members of the GOP, but it's on them for not reading the writing on the wall.

Will it? I'm not sure if the same is holding true for the ultra-left. So far Joe is doing a great job on backing out on their promises, but it's still early. I think that it's almost less that the extreme poles are getting cut loose and more that the extreme poles are hollowing out the middle.

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

At least a few Republicans are willing to tell the truth that they lied or were complicit in the lie. Trumps election fraud claims were a big lie. Liz Mitch Sasse Kinzinger have all put the lie out there and stated that Republicans have been suckers for believing Lyin Trump.

The extent to which the president, President Trump, for months leading up to January 6 spread the notion that the election had been stolen or that the election was rigged was a lie and people need to understand that. We need to make sure that we as Republicans are the party of truth that we are being honest about what really did happen in 2020 so we actually have a chance to win in 2022 and win the White House back in 2024

And for the folks believing other dumb conspiracies from OAnN and NewsMax and dummy Gaetz “ I think, you know, that people in the party are mistaken. They believe that BLM and Antifa were behind what happened here at the Capitol. It's just simply not the case, not true and we're going to have a lot of work we have to do.”

Troll alert

[Tiny]

I'm amazed at how unpopular Liz Cheney has become in Wyoming. It's sad, and an indication that America may become a one party state. The Republican Party is fractured. It's going to be difficult for strongly pro-Trump Republicans to win Congressional seats in purple districts and states.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You’ve clearly not read my posts. I think both parties lie for their own purposes. I agree with facts no matter who tells them. I disagree with lies no matter who tells them. Trump was a liar and anyone who propagated his lies was also a liar. If they refused to point out his lies they were complicit in them. People that believed his lies were stupid.

The fact that republicans are trying to let people know they propagated a big lie should be a good thing but republicans don’t want that acknowledged.

Did you believe Adam Schiff's lies?

[oeb11]

HF - and the answer is"
all the DPST/ccp minions believe absolutely in their nomenklatura - and every statement they, and their LSM make must be believed in. Regardless of how foolish mad maxine, al sharpton, AOC, nazi pelosi, commie schumer, senile fiden , indian lizzie, liar schiff, 'antifa is a myth' nadler and the rest of teh motley crew of Liars prevaricate.

The alternative - to them - is expulsion from teh Party - and re-education camps run by AOC.

They fear Truth and FACTs - which contradicts their fake marxist narrative/ideology.



of course - absolutely - the minions believe .
Just ask 1b1 and the rest of teh marxist crew.


Ideology - Uber Alles!

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by oeb11

HF - and the answer is"
all the DPST/ccp minions believe absolutely in their nomenklatura - and every statement they, and their LSM make must be believed in. Regardless of how foolish mad maxine, al sharpton, AOC, nazi pelosi, commie schumer, senile fiden , indian lizzie, liar schiff, 'antifa is a myth' nadler and the rest of teh motley crew of Liars prevaricate.

The alternative - to them - is expulsion from teh Party - and re-education camps run by AOC.

They fear Truth and FACTs - which contradicts their fake marxist narrative/ideology.



of course - absolutely - the minions believe .
Just ask 1b1 and the rest of teh marxist crew.


Ideology - Uber Alles!

I'm waiting for him to ask me "what lies"?

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

Did you believe Adam Schiff's lies?

What’s that got to do with Liz Trump or election lies. Oh nothing. That’s right. You only know one thing. “But the Democrats”.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Tiny

I'm amazed at how unpopular Liz Cheney has become in Wyoming. It's sad, and an indication that America may become a one party state. The Republican Party is fractured. It's going to be difficult for strongly pro-Trump Republicans to win Congressional seats in purple districts and states.

I go back to my prior statement on the GOP. I feel sorry for them. They’ll rebound eventually but I can’t see it happening in 22 or 24. Their inability to rid themselves of Trump and Q will basically rip the party apart.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

What’s that got to do with Liz Trump or election lies. Oh nothing. That’s right. You only know one thing. “But the Democrats”.

You said and I quote

People that believed his lies are stupid

I just substituted Schiff for Trump and wondered if you would care to admit that you were stupid for believing Schiff's lies or did you tell us back then that Schiff was a liar and I just missed it? Or were you complicit in covering up for Schiff's lies?


Never mind, I got my answer. You are afraid to answer a simple question.


And yeah "but Democrats" will always be one of many things I know.

[Levianon17]

Originally Posted by WTF

All modern day elections are based on fraud?

Of course. All countries and their politics have a degree of corruption. If you think an idiot like Joe Biden can win an election without some corruption in the mix then you believe you can win the Tour De France on a Tricycle.

[1blackman1]

Originally Posted by Levianon17

Of course. All countries and their politics have a degree of corruption. If you think an idiot like Joe Biden can win an election without some corruption in the mix then you believe you can win the Tour De France on a Tricycle.

You’re mistaking some corruption with enough to change elections. In the US the latter doesn’t exist unless you’re talking about the election of dog catcher or city counsel. Large elections are so widely monitored that there couldn’t be enough fraud to overturn the results. And the only time recently it came close what Republicans in NC attempting to harvest votes and they got caught.

Your inability to accept the election just shows more about you than about elections.

[rexdutchman]

Cheneeey swamp er brilliant

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

What’s that got to do with Liz Trump or election lies. Oh nothing. That’s right. You only know one thing. “But the Democrats”.

1b1-

so you believe you know what other people/posters know.
" - You (meaning conservatives' - only know one thing".
My goodness - how charitable of you to give Conservatives credit for knowing "One thing'.
This from teh arrogant, know-it - all, elitist, supporter of AOC cancel people culture in her re-education camps. and Omar/tlaib smokestacks.



And just how did one acquire the ability to 'read other people's minds', Pray Tell???
That question will not be answered - admission of fallibility is not a DPST/ccp option in the ideology.



Thank you for your heartfelt , if intellectually disingenuous, compliment, 1b1!


Everyone knows One reads my posts -

it is simply irresistible to read the forbidden of the DPST/ccp marxist ideology.

LOL

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

You’re mistaking some corruption with enough to change elections. In the US the latter doesn’t exist unless you’re talking about the election of dog catcher or city counsel. Large elections are so widely monitored that there couldn’t be enough fraud to overturn the results. And the only time recently it came close what Republicans in NC attempting to harvest votes and they got caught.

Your inability to accept the election just shows more about you than about elections.

Comment - Denial and deflection - 1b1

Thank you for the usual intellectual dodges to any cogent or constructive debate

Per usual

Ideology Uber alles - the DPST/ccp mantra!