The Course of the Delta Variant Might Alter My Expectation for a Political Solution

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by texassapper

Look we should all treat this EXACTLY as Obama did... ie, ignore the panic porn.

Don't forget Lalapalooza Chicago 2021. Lori Lightfoot attends when she isn't protecting cop killers.

[Chung Tran]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

These folks are a queer lot. saying Trump won in a Landslide

2 hours after I post, this appears.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pro-t...ated-in-march/

Y'all be writing your own jokes

[texassapper]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

2 hours after I post, this appears.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pro-t...ated-in-march/

Y'all be writing your own jokes

What does that have to do with your original post?

[oeb11]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

We will know soon enough whether the cycle of a surge goes as expected. The models they have been using and that has been pretty accurate thus far say the spike should end around October and begin its decline thereafter. Sadly hospitalization and death lag behind so we will see an increase in deaths run though mid to late October. In fact deaths are increasing currently as hospitalizations have increased to the breaking point in the south mostly at this point.

I wonder if there’s any correlation between southern states being vastly Republican and anti vax and masks and the sharp continuous uptick in cases, hospitalization and soon deaths. Nah I’m sure it’s a coincidence.

1b1 - do you still believe that Trump originated teh wuhan virus in his lab in teh White house Basement????
Like millions of other DPSTs???

[rexdutchman]

^^ right maybe theys a vaccine

[oeb11]

fiden created teh vaccine all by his little senile self - so says XiNn and fiden himself

never mind that fiden received wuhan virus vaccination Prior to inauguration
facts and truths are not fiden or teh DPST moaist parties strengths.


the OP can look it up - but disciples of Comrade Xi do not permit variation from the established agenda/Communist narrative

[gnadfly]

Originally Posted by Chung Tran

2 hours after I post, this appears.

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/pro-t...ated-in-march/

Y'all be writing your own jokes

So you're hijacking your own thread. Noted.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

We will know soon enough whether the cycle of a surge goes as expected. The models they have been using and that has been pretty accurate thus far say the spike should end around October and begin its decline thereafter. Sadly hospitalization and death lag behind so we will see an increase in deaths run though mid to late October. In fact deaths are increasing currently as hospitalizations have increased to the breaking point in the south mostly at this point.

I wonder if there’s any correlation between southern states being vastly Republican and anti vax and masks and the sharp continuous uptick in cases, hospitalization and soon deaths. Nah I’m sure it’s a coincidence.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253388593.html


Florida COVID update: 15,322 new cases. State numbers and CDC figures still at odds



The state’s seven-day moving average of new cases was 20,058, as of Aug. 9, up from a moving average of 2,478 on July 5, a 709% increase, stemming from the highly contagious delta variant.


On Tuesday, the state also reported 16 new deaths.


I would point out that 1blackman1 continues to exaggerate but at this point, it just wouldn't serve any purpose....... but I think I'll continue to do it anyway.

[texassapper]

lessee 16 deaths out of 20058 avg. cases is....hmmmm.... .07976% but of course that's just known cases... assume that the ratio of unknown to known cases is probably at least 3 to 1 and you get something around .02666% fatality rate... I wonder if those 16 deaths were old folks or fatties?

I'd be willing to bet that the actual fatality rate is even lower but the CDC won't publish numbers in order to determine that... because FCUK YOU THAT'S WHY!!!

[1blackman1]

Maybe looking at a larger amount of data will prove me right

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...tate/louisiana

Louisiana for instance has a 7 day average of deaths increase from 3 to 30 from July 9 to august 6. As always deaths lag behind hospitalizations. And it will continue to rise as hospitalization rises. 55 were reported yesterday. It’s similar in the southern states.

Let’s not allow pesky facts to get in the way of saying something false or disingenuous.

[HedonistForever]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Maybe looking at a larger amount of data will prove me right

https://usafacts.org/visualizations/...tate/louisiana

Louisiana for instance has a 7 day average of deaths increase from 3 to 30 from July 9 to august 6. As always deaths lag behind hospitalizations. And it will continue to rise as hospitalization rises. 55 were reported yesterday. It’s similar in the southern states.

Let’s not allow pesky facts to get in the way of saying something false or disingenuous.

Key word, key word. We have numbers, whether we have "facts" that lead to definitive conclusions remains to be seen. What we know for sure, is that the "facts" have changed since late 2020.

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by HedonistForever

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/coronavirus/article253388593.html


Florida COVID update: 15,322 new cases. State numbers and CDC figures still at odds



The state’s seven-day moving average of new cases was 20,058, as of Aug. 9, up from a moving average of 2,478 on July 5, a 709% increase, stemming from the highly contagious delta variant.


On Tuesday, the state also reported 16 new deaths.


I would point out that 1blackman1 continues to exaggerate but at this point, it just wouldn't serve any purpose....... but I think I'll continue to do it anyway.

Hedonist, The link is broken and I can't find your article, but here's what they're talking about:

https://www.wptv.com/coronavirus/cdc...ntly-16-deaths

The CDC revised its estimate for one day upwards by 16 deaths.

The good news from the article, apparently Floridians are scared about the carnage and are getting vaccinated, so that the vaccination rate in your state is now approaching the U.S. average. Reported deaths in Florida yesterday were 233, and the 7 day average is 141 per day,

https://www.google.com/search?q=flor...4dUDCA4&uact=5

[1blackman1]

HF is going the Bambi route. Ignoring facts and going with wacky shit. He claimed I was exaggerating that deaths were increasing so I provided facts (the numbers are increasing as measured by the seven day averages) which he now says “but that doesn’t prove what you say”.

Deaths are increasing.
Evidence - 7 day averages are up for deaths (and hospitalizations as well)
Hence deaths are increasing.

HF used to at least be credible in his arguments but now, it’s just whiny bullshit and long diatribes about nothing.

[1blackman1]

Here’s some more pesky facts {what HF calls exaggeration)

Rising Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in Mississippi are pushing death rates higher across the state, according to the state's health officer.

"We're going to see a lot of deaths in coming days, it's just inevitable," Mississippi State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs told reporters on a briefing call Wednesday.

Covid cases have soared in Mississippi over the last month, jumping almost tenfold from a seven-day average of 267 new cases per day a month ago to 2,640 as of Tuesday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Deaths, while still relatively low, have similarly risen from a seven-day average of about 3 fatalities per day a month ago to more than 13, the data shows.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...lay?li=BBnb7Kz

[Tiny]

Originally Posted by 1blackman1

Here’s some more pesky facts {what HF calls exaggeration)

Rising Covid-19 cases and hospitalizations in Mississippi are pushing death rates higher across the state, according to the state's health officer.

"We're going to see a lot of deaths in coming days, it's just inevitable," Mississippi State Health Officer Dr. Thomas Dobbs told reporters on a briefing call Wednesday.

Covid cases have soared in Mississippi over the last month, jumping almost tenfold from a seven-day average of 267 new cases per day a month ago to 2,640 as of Tuesday, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. Deaths, while still relatively low, have similarly risen from a seven-day average of about 3 fatalities per day a month ago to more than 13, the data shows.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/med...lay?li=BBnb7Kz

It's sad. It was all preventable. Some hospitals are getting overloaded again, and I bet COVID will be right up there with cancer and heart disease again in the battle for the #1 killer in some of these states. Florida averaged 220 deaths from heart disease last year. Yesterday the COVID death count in Florida increased by 233 people, although the 7 day average is 141 per day.