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Old 03-22-2022, 07:38 AM   #16
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I wish it was.
And what position would you be playing?


hahahahshshshshshshsh!
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Old 03-22-2022, 11:10 AM   #17
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Waaahhhhh waaaahhhh waaaahhhh.

Grow up already, Jackie! Your daily rage whining is becoming tedious.

I will commend you, though, for a post that doesn’t include the words “senile,” “piece of shit” or “cunt.”

Now hurry up, buddy! Youngsters might be on your lawn. Lock and load!

Darn, It slipped my mind. How is this……

The so called “free press”is nothing more than a shill and lackey for the Liberal/socialist/Progressive/Democrat Agenda and their old, senile, stupid, inept, lying corrupt piece of shit of a President and his clueless cunt of a Vice President.

There. Feel better.
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Old 03-22-2022, 02:17 PM   #18
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All you really needed to know was that the original assessment was made by former and current “intelligence officials”. Lying is what the do, it’s pretty much all they do. These days intelligence = propaganda. I kinda get a kick out of current leftists who now worship “The Man” when for decades he was their greatest fear and enemy.
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Old 03-22-2022, 03:00 PM   #19
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hahahahshshshshshshsh!
I would be the Coach. Your only concern should be to keep your mouth shut and stay out of the way.
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Old 03-23-2022, 06:31 AM   #20
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Everyone’s corrupt


https://t.me/rrndaily/230976



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Old 03-23-2022, 06:37 AM   #21
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Do you think this is the self-portrait avatar of Yssup?
- Yes, while he is good for nothing - appears art is the exception
- No, that is an actual selfie he took on his flip-phone


Does his picture remind you of the old guy, not Biden in this case, yelling at the kids to get off of his damn lawn?
- Positively
- Definitely
- Absolutely
- No frick'n doubt about it
- All of the above
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Old 03-23-2022, 01:32 PM   #23
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Hunter Biden’s Laptop and America’s Crisis of Accountability

The New York Times now admits the story was real. News and social-media companies will pay no price for suppressing vital information in 2020.


By Gerard Baker
March 21, 2022 1:40 pm ET


In close elections, a fraction of the total vote distributed in the right places can swing an outcome, and we can never be sure what effect late news stories can have.

If it hadn’t been for a suspiciously well-timed report of a decades-old driving-under-the-influence arrest in the final days of the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush might not have needed 35 days and the judgment of the Supreme Court to deliver him the White House.

Harold Wilson, the British Labour prime minister in 1970, is said to have claimed for years afterward that England’s shock defeat by West Germany in the soccer World Cup quarterfinal that year so depressed the national mood—and turnout—that it produced his surprise ejection from 10 Downing Street in the general election days later.

We’ll never know what effect the “October Surprise” of 2020, the New York Post’s reporting of the discovery of a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden containing all sorts of embarrassing emails, might have had on the election that year if it had received wider circulation. Perhaps in a campaign dominated by Covid and characterized by chaos, it would have been another snowflake in the blizzard of news voters were being hit with.

But the allegations in the reporting—that the son of the man favored to become the next president had been selling his high-level family political connections to foreigners, including suggestions of a possible cut for his father—were worth pursuing. But enough influential people in and out of government—in the foreign-policy-intelligence complex, in the media, and in the big tech firms—were so alarmed that it would affect the outcome that they pulled off one of the greatest disappearing tricks since Harry Houdini made that elephant vanish from a New York stage.

It took its time, but last week the New York Times slipped the acknowledgment of the story’s accuracy deep in a report about Hunter Biden’s mounting legal problems. The Times, along with most other mass-circulation news organizations, had essentially ignored the story in the days when it might have made a difference, but it now says it has “authenticated” the laptop’s contents.

The concession from the paper, which serves as a sort of unofficial licensing authority for reporting by most of the rest of the media, prompted a predictable rush to self-vindication by those who had also trashed the story at the time. The Washington Post insisted its original decision not to touch it was justified because of uncertainty about its provenance.

Normally, when there is doubt about the provenance of an explosive story, news organizations consider it their job to ascertain the truth. Normally, it takes them less than 17 months to do so. But normally they don’t have the cover provided by technology companies that prevented people from reading the original story.

The media and tech companies that colluded in concealing this potentially critical information didn’t need any excuse to do so. But it surely helped that they were given validation for their actions by an august-sounding committee of concerned letter-writers who moved quickly to discredit the story.

In that famous letter, more than 50 former national-security and intelligence officials polished their gleaming credentials and alleged that the New York Post was guilty of peddling a story that had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

The principal rationale for this, the letter laid out, was that the story might be helpful to Donald Trump. Russia wanted Mr. Trump to win. The story helped Mr. Trump. Ergo, it was the work of Russia.

That’s quite a syllogism. Using that same logic, you might conclude that Russia was also responsible for any unexpectedly good economic data that helped the incumbent, or that Vladimir Putin was behind the crime wave that had gripped Democrat-run cities.

Now we can guess why so much U.S. intelligence has been so faulty all these years. Either these 50 or so grandmasters of international espionage are completely unable to distinguish Russian disinformation from real information, or they prostituted their credentials in a naked act of political hackery. I don’t have their experience or deductive skills, but I’m ready to go with the latter.

The deeper shame here is the lack of accountability across American institutions. No one who colluded in this conspiracy against truth has even been inconvenienced by it.

Contacted by the Post last week, not one of the letter’s signatories expressed regret or contrition. The reporters and editors at news organizations and the employees and executives of tech companies who participated in the suppression continue to be lionized for their work.

This is what is so corrosive of trust and, in the end, of the system itself. The one way in which real accountability is supposed to work in a democracy is at the ballot box. But how can that even work when the people we want to hold accountable decide what information the voters are allowed to see?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-...ns-11647872692
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Old 03-23-2022, 09:27 PM   #24
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Old 03-23-2022, 09:39 PM   #25
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All you really needed to know was that the original assessment was made by former and current “intelligence officials”. Lying is what the do, it’s pretty much all they do. These days intelligence = propaganda. I kinda get a kick out of current leftists who now worship “The Man” when for decades he was their greatest fear and enemy.

a lot of people thought the laptop story was bullshit. some are admitting they were wrong.
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Hahaha. That pic is quite telling. Osama Bin Laden was a CIA creation.
Yep, Saddam and UBL were once Friends of the US government. Until they weren’t. Then we killed them.
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Old 03-24-2022, 08:13 AM   #28
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And the entire Russian Collusion fiasco that permitted every news outlet for 4 years is false.

We are truly in “Bizzarro World”
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Old 03-24-2022, 08:18 AM   #29
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So the NYT, WSJ and Heir Muller all agree - there was NO Russia collusion and NO Russian disinformation!?! Then the questions are now answered: Whom was colluding with Russia (Hillary Clinton) and who was spreading Russian disinformation (our own intelligence agencies)!

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Hunter Biden’s Laptop and America’s Crisis of Accountability

The New York Times now admits the story was real. News and social-media companies will pay no price for suppressing vital information in 2020.


By Gerard Baker
March 21, 2022 1:40 pm ET


In close elections, a fraction of the total vote distributed in the right places can swing an outcome, and we can never be sure what effect late news stories can have.

If it hadn’t been for a suspiciously well-timed report of a decades-old driving-under-the-influence arrest in the final days of the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush might not have needed 35 days and the judgment of the Supreme Court to deliver him the White House.

Harold Wilson, the British Labour prime minister in 1970, is said to have claimed for years afterward that England’s shock defeat by West Germany in the soccer World Cup quarterfinal that year so depressed the national mood—and turnout—that it produced his surprise ejection from 10 Downing Street in the general election days later.

We’ll never know what effect the “October Surprise” of 2020, the New York Post’s reporting of the discovery of a laptop belonging to Hunter Biden containing all sorts of embarrassing emails, might have had on the election that year if it had received wider circulation. Perhaps in a campaign dominated by Covid and characterized by chaos, it would have been another snowflake in the blizzard of news voters were being hit with.

But the allegations in the reporting—that the son of the man favored to become the next president had been selling his high-level family political connections to foreigners, including suggestions of a possible cut for his father—were worth pursuing. But enough influential people in and out of government—in the foreign-policy-intelligence complex, in the media, and in the big tech firms—were so alarmed that it would affect the outcome that they pulled off one of the greatest disappearing tricks since Harry Houdini made that elephant vanish from a New York stage.

It took its time, but last week the New York Times slipped the acknowledgment of the story’s accuracy deep in a report about Hunter Biden’s mounting legal problems. The Times, along with most other mass-circulation news organizations, had essentially ignored the story in the days when it might have made a difference, but it now says it has “authenticated” the laptop’s contents.

The concession from the paper, which serves as a sort of unofficial licensing authority for reporting by most of the rest of the media, prompted a predictable rush to self-vindication by those who had also trashed the story at the time. The Washington Post insisted its original decision not to touch it was justified because of uncertainty about its provenance.

Normally, when there is doubt about the provenance of an explosive story, news organizations consider it their job to ascertain the truth. Normally, it takes them less than 17 months to do so. But normally they don’t have the cover provided by technology companies that prevented people from reading the original story.

The media and tech companies that colluded in concealing this potentially critical information didn’t need any excuse to do so. But it surely helped that they were given validation for their actions by an august-sounding committee of concerned letter-writers who moved quickly to discredit the story.

In that famous letter, more than 50 former national-security and intelligence officials polished their gleaming credentials and alleged that the New York Post was guilty of peddling a story that had “all the classic earmarks of a Russian information operation.”

The principal rationale for this, the letter laid out, was that the story might be helpful to Donald Trump. Russia wanted Mr. Trump to win. The story helped Mr. Trump. Ergo, it was the work of Russia.

That’s quite a syllogism. Using that same logic, you might conclude that Russia was also responsible for any unexpectedly good economic data that helped the incumbent, or that Vladimir Putin was behind the crime wave that had gripped Democrat-run cities.

Now we can guess why so much U.S. intelligence has been so faulty all these years. Either these 50 or so grandmasters of international espionage are completely unable to distinguish Russian disinformation from real information, or they prostituted their credentials in a naked act of political hackery. I don’t have their experience or deductive skills, but I’m ready to go with the latter.

The deeper shame here is the lack of accountability across American institutions. No one who colluded in this conspiracy against truth has even been inconvenienced by it.

Contacted by the Post last week, not one of the letter’s signatories expressed regret or contrition. The reporters and editors at news organizations and the employees and executives of tech companies who participated in the suppression continue to be lionized for their work.

This is what is so corrosive of trust and, in the end, of the system itself. The one way in which real accountability is supposed to work in a democracy is at the ballot box. But how can that even work when the people we want to hold accountable decide what information the voters are allowed to see?

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hunter-...ns-11647872692
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Old 03-24-2022, 08:28 AM   #30
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An interesting interview with Jack Maxey who is behind the recent NYT revelations regarding the laptop. He's about to publish the index of the laptop and the NYT is trying to get ahead of whats about to come out. Long but very much worth the time.

https://rumble.com/vy7hjl-explosive-...en-laptop.html
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