Are Eccie hobbyists more 'demanding' on providers ?

[Likinikki]

Holy Hell, welcome back WM! (lol) I don't think you understood me. By stating *higher expectations,* I meant ANY board member...not just hobbyists. I think most of us try to set our bars high. Not saying...just because we're board members that it's acceptable to be an idiot...or that we are entitled! (lol)

IMO...most board members strive to be good citizens of the hobby community...because of our affliations here. When a hobbyist or provider is isolated...it's much easier to rob, harm, cheat, and give half-assed companionship...as they aren't subject to reviews, etc.

What I've learned through the years is...whenver I meet providers, who are VP's, and set the bar high...it makes me want to work harder to maintain my level of success and service...and respect their professionalism.

[JackBlack]

I think the girls have a POWDER ROOM or LOCKER ROOM where they exchange notes about hobbyists who extort providers. So problem solved. I think ECCIE is good at exchanging info and the majority of providers I've talked to prefer ECCIE gents.

[Doc_rob]

Nikki - you are an Angel.

[Likinikki]

Doc...have you been drinkn'? You sure you're talkin' about me? (lol)

[flinde]

Amen, amen and double amen. Likinikki. As members of this community we should strive to establish and follow high standards of respect and cooperation.

Especially those of us that have been around since Delphi Board days.

Otherwise, whats the point of boards like this (besides looking at all the hotty gal pics)?

[MOCHAakaMOCHA]

I don't see them being much more than diff or demanding than how I see guys on TER interact w/ providers (had more experience with TER).

[Doglegg]

How in the world could I be foolish enough to disagree with Nikki?

Bottom line, I expect the BEST from ECCIE members, as they should of me.

I arrive clean, healthy, and with the required donation for expected time and services incurred.

I expect the experience provider to assume ghe same.

Some meet the mark. Others do not.

Let it be said, Nikki exceeds the mark, I owe a review that can not meet the mark.

The Provider for San Antonio!

[Mature Companion]

I didn't quote you nor any other member. My opinion was put forth based on the thread topic. In which I stand firm in my pov of *holding a lady/guy to a higher expectation & standard because they're on eccie.*

Eccie is nothing more than a hobby site where folks come to and find out who is/isn't enjoyable, safe & reliable to see (based on alerts/reviews-which can also be found on various other sites). As well as to anonymously share a wide range of discussions. Eccie doesn't make individuals who they're are. Just because one is on Eccie doesn't mean a guy isn't going to NC/NS, stalk, short pay or cause harm to a lady or that they're not LE. Nor does a providers status on Eccie mean that she enjoys catering to men & thus she's going to provide you an excellent experience. Her Eccie membership doesn't mean she's not going to be B/Switch, NC/NS, have good TCB, etc etc. Neither does ones membership on TER nor P411, so on and so forth.
Thus again, holding someone to a *higher standard & expectation because they're on eccie* is ridiculous. As I feel, one doing so, is in for a let down.

I personally feel that you should hold the individual (you'd be spending time with) accountable for whatever expectations & standards one might have based on the fact that--
A. the lady is in this adult lifestyle to cater to mens desires & needs. If she doesn't meet said expectations. It's because she doesn't truly enjoy catering to men & shouldn't be in the hobby. Not because she's a member of Eccie.
B. Men hobby to enjoy being with women. A lady's expectation of men should solely be based on said adult interaction.
If the man fails to meet your said expectations. It's because A: he either doesn't respect or adore women, and just views them as an object to be used. B. You two simply weren't compatible for various reasons. And thus didn't click.
Doesn't mean he's a jerk. Nor does his Eccie membership have anything to do with it.

I personally do NOT in any form or fashion have any expectations of men based on the fact that they're on eccie, TER or P411. Heck no.
The only aspect I care about regarding their hobby board membership, is for screening. (whether or not their handle has been noted on alerts or whether or not they see sw, so I can decline). Beyond that. The expectations I have of them is based on them as an individual and how I expect them to treat me as a woman & how they've treated the women they've seen before me. Nothing more.

That's my pov and I totally get that some folks are not going to agree. Which is A-OK with me.

Laz,
I enjoyed our discussion. Thank you for your thoughtful insight .
(now that's how you agree to disagree and still leave with a smile and warm regards to another). Much appreciated, kind sir.

Originally Posted by Likinikki

Holy Hell, welcome back WM! (lol) I don't think you understood me. By stating *higher expectations,* I meant ANY board member...not just hobbyists. I think most of us try to set our bars high. Not saying...just because we're board members that it's acceptable to be an idiot...or that we are entitled! (lol)

IMO...most board members strive to be good citizens of the hobby community...because of our affliations here. When a hobbyist or provider is isolated...it's much easier to rob, harm, cheat, and give half-assed companionship...as they aren't subject to reviews, etc.

What I've learned through the years is...whenver I meet providers, who are VP's, and set the bar high...it makes me want to work harder to maintain my level of success and service...and respect their professionalism.

[82Vinny]

I would have to say there are always them few Idiots who try to bully, as well it is up to the female to allow that bullying! I had a Hobbyist try to do that to me once and lets just say he dare never to speak my name! And he hasn't. If you are stern woman and you know exactly what to say and handle yourself and never let someone Hustle you, you shouldn't have any problems! As far as men here in Texas I have come to see that they are very generous and respectful. Down south in Ga. and Ala. is where I THINK they get a little bossy and rude. But these are just my experiences so...

[Khloe Jay]

Here in San Antonio, I love you guys! I think this provider has encountered a few jerks who probably had no real place on this board.. no real voice.. no real standing on this board. She should not let those few jerks stop her from meeting the good guys that we do have on this board who would like to meet her and who would like to treat her good.

I have had a few experiences ((not here in SA)) where a few men have tried to hold the... "I can and will do a bad review on you" card over my head, my answer, "Okay, you do that, and while you are trashing me, I am going to keep working and I am going to keep providing nothing but the best services to the gentlemen who do want to meet me and spend time with me."

Please let this provider know that there are more good guys on this board than bad and if she would take the time to research those guys who did threaten her with a bad reviews, she would find that they have no real voice on this board!!! Guys who threaten providers do not get very far in this community!!! She should join and give the guys in this community a chance My review of these guys here in SA and a few other places...These guys do not go looking for a provider that they can give a bad review about!!!

[Tazion]

As usual there seems to be some confusion and people missing certain aspects of the original question. Hell, I don't even think the original question should have been asked. Why?

Well, as he said, a BP provider asked it. She's not even a part of ECCIE, and I would think that providers who give good service wouldn't mind reviews. Oh sure, I can see why you might not want ANY reviews - good or bad, but if that's the case, don't advertise here and problem solved.

I will say however, that if an ECCIE guy went to a provider and laid it out up front of "If you give me a bad session I'll post a bad review" or "If you don't do everything I want....blah blah blah", a threat, that behavior is wrong. Hell, it ought to be in the back of every provider's mind that poor performance could/should lead to a less than glowing review.

A final note, I expect providers at ECCIE to be of a higher caliber than CL or BP. They're vetted, they are known in the little ECCIE community. It's almost a certification of "excellent provider-dom".

Same goes for the guys here, I would expect the providers to hold us to a higher standard, and I know you do.

[Mature Companion]

I disagree. Just because they're on ECCIE doesn't mean squat as to them being vetted or part of the so called community. Nor does being a member of Eccie constitute as any form of certificate of *excellent provider-Dom*.
But since you said it, then that means EVERY single NEW gal is Vetted and part the community etc. As are all the new guys.. After all you DID say, because they're ON ECCIE!!


And just because guys are on eccie doesn't mean squat as to being held to a higher expectation. Eccie doesn't make YOU the person you are nor control how YOU as a man treat women when your alone BCD with them. Or vice versa (as explained in my previous post).
So why should we expect MORE of a higher standard from anyone just because they HAVE a membership on a hobby site?

Originally Posted by Tazion

A final note, I expect providers at ECCIE to be of a higher caliber than CL or BP. They're vetted, they are known in the little ECCIE community. It's almost a certification of "excellent provider-dom".

Same goes for the guys here, I would expect the providers to hold us to a higher standard, and I know you do.

[Maxx]

Nice to be under you again WM .... Nikki, your a sweetheart! I think that the longer someone is posting on the boards you ladies begin to see the kind of person behind the keyboard he is. WM, your right, just because your a member of eccie doesn't put a person into a certain standard. You get all kinds everywhere. I still think that a persons personality shows in the way they post or answer certain questions posed. As for me I'm always on the up & up and try to hold myself to be the utmost of gentlemen to you ladies, never demanding maybe requesting. Just my .02, if it means anything.

[Likinikki]

I have no issue with your POV WM...and, I wasn't directing my comment toward YOU either! (lol)

Anyway, the original question he made is:

Generally speaking, do we, as Eccie hobbyists, ever tend to be more 'demanding' of our providers - and even 'threaten' our providers with bad reviews if they don't meet all our 'play' demands?

My POV (and, only mine) is NO; however, I believe, by being a contributing member of eccie (or any site,) there is an underlying *expectation* of living up to a higher standard.

We all know that *threats* have happened, but I think that is the exception...not the rule, but like I stated, imo...I could be wrong, not a biggie.

[flinde]

Its not a so called community. Its a community.