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Old 03-21-2025, 12:53 AM   #16
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Hook line and sinker
A very biased and politically motivated hit piece. To what reward? To bash Biden?
To get recognition? For praise?
Biden had no real choice. If he could've rescued the Astronauts he would've. Especially close to the election.
Good grief magas
You keep saying that thing over and over like the chant of a cult. And all Biden has to do is say its not true but he hasnt, has he? Witnesses?
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Old 03-21-2025, 12:56 AM   #17
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Also, technically, the VP is in charge of the space program since JFK put the job under the responsibility of Johnson.
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Old 03-21-2025, 01:31 AM   #18
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Biden wanted go get them on his bicycle, but he forgot where he put it
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Old 03-21-2025, 02:17 AM   #19
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So, when is a Federal Judge going to order the astronauts returned to the ISS?

Seriously, though, I wonder how those astronauts (and their families) feel about help to get them home denied?
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Old 03-21-2025, 05:22 AM   #20
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The mainstream mews outlets, legacy media and their personalities . . .along side the Progressive left and the Democratic Party have burned my trust to cinder.

From the often repeated "if you like your doctor . . ." to the "mostly peaceful" protests and on into all the Covid related misinformation, psudo-science and spurious data . . . and outright lies, I am automatically skeptics of about anything coming fom the left.

Most of the anti-Trump rhetoric from 2016 through 2020 was spurious. The Russia allegations, both impeachments and the Hunter Biden laptop scandal were later shown to be and acknowledged to be, simply not true.

The ability of then President Biden to be our nation
s cheif executive has been in serious doubt, but denied by all parties on the left, both in and out of government. But now insiders and thnose who were insider-adjacent are flipping on both former VP Harris and former President Biden to reveal what they know of the truth.

With all of that history and experience, why should I, or anyone believe ay of them over Elon Musk?
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Old 03-21-2025, 11:03 AM   #21
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The mainstream mews outlets, legacy media and their personalities . . .along side the Progressive left and the Democratic Party have burned my trust to cinder.

From the often repeated "if you like your doctor . . ." to the "mostly peaceful" protests and on into all the Covid related misinformation, psudo-science and spurious data . . . and outright lies, I am automatically skeptics of about anything coming fom the left.

Most of the anti-Trump rhetoric from 2016 through 2020 was spurious. The Russia allegations, both impeachments and the Hunter Biden laptop scandal were later shown to be and acknowledged to be, simply not true.

The ability of then President Biden to be our nation
s cheif executive has been in serious doubt, but denied by all parties on the left, both in and out of government. But now insiders and thnose who were insider-adjacent are flipping on both former VP Harris and former President Biden to reveal what they know of the truth.

With all of that history and experience, why should I, or anyone believe ay of them over Elon Musk?
I have said it before, but it is worth repeating.

When the Founders instituted “Freedom of the Press” in the 1st Amendment, they never envisioned a Press being the hostage of one Political Party or one ideology.
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Old 03-21-2025, 02:46 PM   #22
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I have said it before, but it is worth repeating.

When the Founders instituted “Freedom of the Press” in the 1st Amendment, they never envisioned a Press being the hostage of one Political Party or one ideology.
... AGREED!

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Old 03-21-2025, 02:56 PM   #23
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So, when is a Federal Judge going to order the astronauts returned to the ISS?

Seriously, though, I wonder how those astronauts (and their families) feel about help to get them home denied?
They're already back. Came back on a SpaceX capsule that had been docked with the ISS since the Biden admin.

With custom seats for them and 2 others to all come back together. Kinda like it was planned that way once they realized the Boeing option wasn't going to work.

See the talking points for what they are

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Old 03-21-2025, 04:09 PM   #24
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Musk and Hannity are full of shit.
Getting the Astronauts home would've been great pr for Biden if he could've saved them. Why didn't trumpf do it day one? Huh? Why did trumpf leave them up there till now?

Answer to all the above. This was the soonest murika could safely get something up there!
Mic drop

Elon may have offered. But why did it take 50 plus days into trumpfs term to do it? Cause nothing was ready
Elon and Hannity are liars
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Old 03-21-2025, 04:32 PM   #25
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It was reported that there was a small window for the launch in 2025 so far. I expect that they were worried some trans lib Biden supporter would crash the thing on purpose. Look how they applaud when a Musk rocket fails.
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I expect that they were worried some trans lib Biden supporter would crash the thing on purpose.
They would if they could.

It’s not a big step from throwing Molotov Cocktails into a Tesla Dealership to sabotaging a Rocket.
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Old 03-21-2025, 07:10 PM   #27
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It was reported that there was a small window for the launch in 2025 so far. I expect that they were worried some trans lib Biden supporter would crash the thing on purpose. Look how they applaud when a Musk rocket fails.
Sounds like twaddle to me
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Old 03-21-2025, 07:26 PM   #28
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I have said it before, but it is worth repeating.

When the Founders instituted “Freedom of the Press” in the 1st Amendment, they never envisioned a Press being the hostage of one Political Party or one ideology.
Here's the deal with that. They instituted two things that are not within the purview of the first amendment to take care of that. Sedition and incitement not only our uncovered by the first amendment but our felonies of the highest order. That's what things like Fox and Newsmax and OANN whatever it is. That's what most of a.m. radio is. Much of the blogs highly opinionated trying to label themselves journalism platforms on the Internet.

The real key to making this all work is of course the one single caveat the framers left us, "A well informed and educated electorate" which were failing spectacularly, but to follow the constitution was something they never dreamed they have to qualify this INTERPRETATION crap is simply unconstitutional. It should be relegated to preachers in their Scriptures.

These unconstitutional decisions have had the weight to swing our government to complete totalitarianism. In six years citizens United decision allowed our geopolitical arch enemy to capture our federal government without a shot being fired.

More importantly, most of you think of the Democrats in the Republican parties as opposition. That is a grave mistake. They are partners. 100% bipartisan behind closed doors because they are conspirators in a global crime syndicate. We are the marks and obviously you've all been hit They're pretty good shots

Currently there are only two relevant conversations concerning politic in America. The removal of the big dark money along with barriers to accessing the ballot without those two absolute prerequisites, none of the other 10,000 things that need tweak fix or blown into the ether can't even be addressed. Without such, there is no path to restoring our intended constitutional republic. Your travel no matter the tribe has lead us here. A Third World out. Turns out slightly less shitty than really really really really shitty, is still pretty shitty ....
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Old 03-21-2025, 07:29 PM   #29
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Musk and Hannity are full of shit.
Getting the Astronauts home would've been great pr for Biden if he could've saved them. Why didn't trumpf do it day one? Huh? Why did trumpf leave them up there till now?

Answer to all the above. This was the soonest murika could safely get something up there!
Mic drop

Elon may have offered. But why did it take 50 plus days into trumpfs term to do it? Cause nothing was ready
Elon and Hannity are liars

No matter the topic you could just stop with your first sentence. That is the crux of the matter you just nailed it.

Treating either one of those people as a credible source is nothing more than confirmation of high density ancient oak where there should be gray matter....
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I should qualify that. It's not as if the Democratic Party offers any possibility of good governance either. There are two dozen or so legitimate representatives of the people they're actually fulfilling their oath plus Bernie and that's it. The rest of the place should be dragged out into the street by the collar and never allowed back in and I don't mean the building I'm talking about the beltway
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