Encounter: HHR turned into 10 min

[Scoot642]

When we see any provider we enable them , every visit every provider

[Jack_Wilson]

Originally Posted by BugsySegal

Igno, you said what others are thinking! Sounds like she has a few white knights hype her up.

Agreed, more than a few and quite a lot of hype, it seems.

To my thinking, it comes down to whether there is any legitimate excuse for such conduct or not. Some providers have things to deal with IRL, and that can be understandable, but if those bases are absent, then it clearly becomes inexcusable.

If one were to look at it in terms of basic human "respect," then this sort of behavior amounts to complete disrespect. If a business associate texts you and you don't reply at all, how is that not being disrespectful, uncaring, and unprofessional?

If a client set up a business lunch or meeting with you, and you failed to arrive on time, or arrived an hour late, or two hours late, or completely failed to show up at all without any legitimate explanation, how is that not being blatantly disrespectful on your part?

Time is money, as they say, isn't it? Her time is worth money to you, but wasting your time isn't worth anything to her? Without "consequence," nothing will ever change on her part.

It's completely irrelevant to say vapid things like it's widespread and endemic behavior (which it isn't, really), or to say that, once the person actually DOES show up - IF she chooses to show up at all - it COULD be a great time. The lack of respect being shown (for herself as well as for her clients) is not erased by such empty hopes and beliefs.

And anyone who chooses to make promises on her behalf, that she'll make up for, or do, anything later should seriously consider their bases for such assertions. If they're not controlling her, then there doesn't seem to be any basis whatsoever.

She simply doesn't care to behave professionally. And maybe it's reflective of how little she actually cares about herself. Doesn't everyone remember 2022 and 2023 with her? Look back.

[Jack_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Scoot642

When we see any provider we enable them , every visit every provider

That statement makes no sense in this context.

[Scoot642]

Maybe not to you but not gonna get into it. See her or don't is all I can say

[Tomb8871]

[Loneli]

It seems from what I've been seeing and experiencing lately it is either one or the other. To get a provider with good TCB AND performance is rare if not overpriced. Then, if and when the demons appear all bets are off.

[DunKin9]

Originally Posted by Scoot642

Maybe not to you but not gonna get into it. See her or don't is all I can say

[George1990]

I have a buddy who is never on time for golf so we started giving him the wrong time to get him there on time. It’s not that complicated. You want 11:00? Ask for 10:30. Problem solved. If it continues, find other people to play with. There are plenty of good providers who are on time. I once told a provider if they’re late I want an extra half hour. They agreed. She hasn’t been late since, but I know she keeps others waiting. Fuck waiting. The shit some of you put up with is mind boggling.

[Scoot642]

The way to handle it is just say , can you be here by say 11am? Yes? Ok you've got a 15 minute window. If its passed my time limit then just turn around same with incall. Stop letting g them make you wait . Simple. If they aren't in the room or have to " get ready" GTFO and say BYE

[Tomb8871]

George, as I have said b4 I generally take approach similar to what Scoot and you suggest.I don't see there being "plenty" of girls out there who are on time, other than if willing to pay for touring girls from tryst or eros. Local girls generally bad at business, bad at life and life skills, demons, have ADD or are on spectrum, etc etc. Have found "conditioning" decent regulars works with some but not all

[Southgate18]

Originally Posted by George1990

I have a buddy who is never on time for golf so we started giving him the wrong time to get him there on time. It’s not that complicated. You want 11:00? Ask for 10:30. Problem solved. If it continues, find other people to play with. There are plenty of good providers who are on time. I once told a provider if they’re late I want an extra half hour. They agreed. She hasn’t been late since, but I know she keeps others waiting. Fuck waiting. The shit some of you put up with is mind boggling.

Yes - Mind Boggling!

10-15 minutes max is what I will wait - unless I know it is going to be fantastic - then I might push to 20.

[Southgate18]

Originally Posted by Jack_Wilson

Agreed, more than a few and quite a lot of hype, it seems.

To my thinking, it comes down to whether there is any legitimate excuse for such conduct or not. Some providers have things to deal with IRL, and that can be understandable, but if those bases are absent, then it clearly becomes inexcusable.

If one were to look at it in terms of basic human "respect," then this sort of behavior amounts to complete disrespect. If a business associate texts you and you don't reply at all, how is that not being disrespectful, uncaring, and unprofessional?

If a client set up a business lunch or meeting with you, and you failed to arrive on time, or arrived an hour late, or two hours late, or completely failed to show up at all without any legitimate explanation, how is that not being blatantly disrespectful on your part?

Time is money, as they say, isn't it? Her time is worth money to you, but wasting your time isn't worth anything to her? Without "consequence," nothing will ever change on her part.

It's completely irrelevant to say vapid things like it's widespread and endemic behavior (which it isn't, really), or to say that, once the person actually DOES show up - IF she chooses to show up at all - it COULD be a great time. The lack of respect being shown (for herself as well as for her clients) is not erased by such empty hopes and beliefs.

And anyone who chooses to make promises on her behalf, that she'll make up for, or do, anything later should seriously consider their bases for such assertions. If they're not controlling her, then there doesn't seem to be any basis whatsoever.

She simply doesn't care to behave professionally. And maybe it's reflective of how little she actually cares about herself. Doesn't everyone remember 2022 and 2023 with her? Look back.

Jack - Everything you say is true - but>>>>>

#1 - none of these women are "professionals."

#2 - none of them really "respect" you - in fact most of them resent you and only tolerate you because they need your money

by "you" - I mean all of us

[Jack_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Southgate18

Jack - Everything you say is true - but>>>>>

#1 - none of these women are "professionals."

#2 - none of them really "respect" you - in fact most of them resent you and only tolerate you because they need your money

by "you" - I mean all of us

I understand the two sentiments you express, but it's not, in my opinion, as universal as you suggest. Some are professional, perhaps not consummate professionals, but they behave more professionally than others. Those are the ones to favor, rather than condone unprofessional behavior from the others, no matter how stellar their (the others) service MAY sometimes be.

I don't know how many respect their clients. Many don't, I would assume, and many fail to respect themselves. I've had good luck with some, but not all, and it's a better plan, I find, to completely avoid the ones who seem uncaring.

My sympathies are with the OP, who got screwed, but not in the way he'd hoped. And my feeling is that such provider behavior should be strongly discouraged, so that the situation is better for all of us, which is why we're here. An earlier post suggested that this provider CAN conduct herself professionally, she isn't incapable of it, and so her behavior toward this OP should be heavily discouraged by the community.

[Jack_Wilson]

Originally Posted by Scoot642

The way to handle it is just say , can you be here by say 11am? Yes? Ok you've got a 15 minute window. If its passed my time limit then just turn around same with incall. Stop letting g them make you wait . Simple. If they aren't in the room or have to " get ready" GTFO and say BYE

My approach is somewhat different. In college, we were supposed to give the professor a 15-minute window before we could "no-show" him or her and then were free to leave without penalty. Here, under these circumstances, it seems to me that something a little more generous, perhaps 20-30 minutes, would be in order. As has been said, many of these providers seem constantly to be at loose ends in every aspect of their lives.

But after that time window, my approach is to put a clear impact on the economics of the situation. For every 1/2 hour later than that, I've told the provider that $50.00 will be removed from the donation. Hit them in the pocketbook. It can work.

And for a complete no-show, the next appointment will be at a substantial monetary reduction, depending on the individual circumstances. Will some stay away completely? Okay, find another one, instead.

As many here have said, the primary motivation that these providers feel is economic, financial. So, use that to condition them to step up. Not much to lose by trying it. My time IS worth money, and I refuse to be stepped on.

Someone once said to me, "No one is going to piss in my face and tell me its raining." It makes no sense to tolerate, condone, endorse, and worse, reinforce the sort of thing that happened to this OP.

The OP posted that this "encounter" (should have) occurred about a week ago. He'd been reassured by a WK promoter that "she'd make it up to [him]," which others doubted later. I'm wondering if she has? She's had enough time to by now. If so, then that's clearly to her credit, if not, well, that says a lot about her, too. She should've reached out to him by now to fix this.

I don't think that she's necessarily a bad person, just someone who is clearly capable of better and should be strongly encouraged to function that way instead. I'd adjust my donation until she feels the proper motivation. If that doesn't work, then move on to someone else. The more of us who did that, the faster things could improve.

[Scoot642]

Good luck telling any providers "im gonna deduct 50 for every 30m etc. " you're gonna be left high and dry and I bet any provider will ignore you . Have fun gents