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View Poll Results: What will be the result of the August Alaska Trump/Putin meeting?
Putin will leave with a black eye and Trump will climb Mount McKinley and bellow at the universe 0 0%
Putin will pause his military in place withdrawing five miles from the front line 0 0%
taking a cue from Reagan, Trump will get up and leave shocking Putin 4 30.77%
nothing will be revealed and little will change 2 15.38%
Putin will leave early and launch a missile strike on major Ukrainian cities 0 0%
Putin will pre position troops along the Estonian border 1 7.69%
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Old Yesterday, 04:39 PM   #16
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All righty boys, let's see what we get in the f\press conference. Any moment we will find out how great this meeting was. Let's ignore the BS and go only on what this has to do with Ukraine. My instinct, and I am hoping I am wrong, is that Trump will brag about how much business we can do with Russia how no additional sanctions are coming that will hurt Russian. Instead they talked about that rather than solving the Russo-Ukraine War. We will see shortly.
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Old Yesterday, 05:27 PM   #17
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So, somewhere between Trump giving a handy and Trump sucking the tip. No deep throat and no gushing dripping facial. Trump lost this round. 2 hours, Putin gave up nothing and still claims his rights to Ukraine. Trump made no statements as to what he "agreed to" except to say that he has to call Ukraine and Europe and get a no from them as to anything. No sanctions. And an invite for Trump to go home, I mean Moscow.
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Old Yesterday, 05:49 PM   #18
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No ceasefire!
(A lot has happened ... but, nothing has changed!)
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Old Yesterday, 09:20 PM   #19
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This from an editorial in the times. https://archive.ph/5wKeG


He is not alone in this: Many Western analysts have repeatedly suggested that Putin would seek an off-ramp in Ukraine once the war proved costly for Russia and, perhaps more to the point, for him personally. As much as Putin loves wealth, however, he has shown that he loves power even more — eternal power in his own country, which he wins by expanding Russia’s borders, and power in the world at large, which he wins by making other leaders fear him. Trump seems to be unaware that, by meeting with Putin, he is giving Putin exactly what the Russian leader wants — a demonstration of his power.

Trump is giving Putin additional gifts by agreeing to meet with him without Zelensky and by sidelining the European Union. Trump is affirming for all of Russia to see what Putin has claimed all along: that the conflict is really between Russia and the United States.

The moment Putin walks into the negotiating room, he has gotten everything he wants — plus an opportunity to make a quip about Alaska as historically Russian land (consider this a prediction). If the meeting does not produce an agreement, Putin loses nothing. Trump, on the other hand, would lose face if he walked out empty-handed. He may be motivated to accept something, anything.
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tsk. tsk.
I see donny missed some choad that was on his face and his knees were dirty.

n.o.t.
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As one reporter covering the event stated: "Was a nothing burger."

And pooty came out ahead. Got his photo op and donny got to do his blabber that didn't amount to anything. And it was suppose to be a news converence where Q&A is suppose to occur.

And it was hilarious that both parties pretended they couldn't hear reporters so as not to answer questions. Pooty has that trait in common with donny, except pooty probably has his own Epstein island.

Score another one for all y'all ruskie lovers out there who idolize over a murderous dictator.
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tsk. tsk.
I see donny missed some choad that was on his face and his knees were dirty.

n.o.t.
o.n.e.
t.h.i.n.g.
c.h.a.n.g.e.d.

As one reporter covering the event stated: "Was a nothing burger."

And pooty came out ahead. Got his photo op and donny got to do his blabber that didn't amount to anything. And it was suppose to be a news converence where Q&A is suppose to occur.

And it was hilarious that both parties pretended they couldn't hear reporters so as not to answer questions. Pooty has that trait in common with donny, except pooty probably has his own Epstein island.

Score another one for all y'all ruskie lovers out there who idolize over a murderous dictator.
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Score another one for all y'all ruskie lovers out there who idolize over a murderous dictator.



amusing why do you and the leftist media claim anyone unwilling to shell out free billions to Ukraine for a proxy war is automatically PRO RUSSIA?


nonsense



fuck Ukraine and Russia
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Score another one for all y'all ruskie lovers out there who idolize over a murderous dictator.
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amusing why do you and the leftist media claim anyone unwilling to shell out free billions to Ukraine for a proxy war is automatically PRO RUSSIA?


nonsense



fuck Ukraine and Russia
Show me in that quote you pulled where I said that.
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Show me in that quote you pulled where I said that.

you just did


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Score another one for all y'all ruskie lovers out there who idolize over a murderous dictator.


perhaps you phrased that too broadly?
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Putin gave up something because he asked for this meeting. Intangible, but Putin wanted something.
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Lets make a list of the Putin Bros.
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The Putin Bro's are not a part of the original topic.
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Putin gave up something because he asked for this meeting. Intangible, but Putin wanted something.
He got what he wanted, legitimization.
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He got what he wanted, legitimization.
Putin is legitimized by the stockpile of Nuclear Weapons he has at his disposal………and his willingness to use them.
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How many nuclear weapons has he used? You assume he is willing to do so. He hasn’t and likely never will as that’s the status quo for all nuclear powers. It’s the threat not the use.

Putin has been isolated and can’t effectively trade economically with anyone but India and China. This war is the only thing holding up their economy. Putin as a world leader has not been allowed in the G20 or G8. He’s not been able to meet with world leaders in a diplomatic way except for a few visits on neutral ground and in Moscow by a few world leaders like Macron in an attempt to get him to end his war. While other world leaders meet and laugh it up across the world.

Putin gained everything from a PR standpoint by Trump hosting him and cheering him on in the US.
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