Operation coast to coast

[poon_69]

This thread is a boner kill

[haskellham]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Dude, this isn't the take you think it is. You literally just described human trafficking.

• Has a debt to pay
• Hears about lucrative opportunities
• Undocumented, smuggled into the country illegally
• Learns the job is sex work
• Unable to communicate effectively
• Lies to family out of shame

Read between the lines dude. You think just because you can speak a little Chinese that means something? For all they know, you could be part of the organization testing them to see if they'll talk. Hell, the fact that you speak Chinese at all could make them trust you even less. Regardless, your anecdotal experiences don't invalidate long standing statistical data that says, contrary to your claims, a large number of these women are victims of trafficking. And it's been happening long before the pandemic.

Just because they're not literally being dragged off the street doesn't mean they are acting of their own free will. If someone is broke, in debt, undocumented, and severely limited in her ability to communicate, in a strange country she knows nothing about, if someone tells her - you can either do sex work and have a roof over your head or you can go sleep on the street and almost certainly never see your family again, what real choice does she have? It's coercion through manipulation and desperation.

I can understand why you want to believe otherwise and why you try to rationalize it. It's not an easy thing coming to terms with the fact that you've been complicit in it. But that is the unfortunate reality for anyone who has engaged in sexual acts with women at AMPs. Maybe not 100% of the time but, in most cases, they are victims.

They're not being forced, they picked this of their own free will. If they hate massage work, they can leave and choose another line of work any time that they want since they have complete freedom, it's just massage work is the best out of all their available options. The claim that they're otherwise going to sleep on the streets and never see their family again is similarly ludicrous, because the vast majority of them tap into existing friend networks before coming over so they already have friends to stay with. Most of them can get restaurant or service work if they wanted to, but if it's a choice between doing menial labor for the next 20 years or jerking off a few dicks for a few years, which one would you choose? If you tell the average McDonald's worker that they can 20x their income by working at a jack shack, I'd bet my money you'd similarly get a large amount of women would would want to escape their daily drudgery (in fact I've seen enough local providers here to know that's true). Also do you think it's easy for them to come to America? Trump has heavily cracked down on visitor visas so the ones that come to this country have to expend considerable resources to do so, they're not being forced to come to America, rather they're paying people to try to get into the country and then picking the highest income work that they can get once here. If you read the Vanity Fair article that I linked you would completely understand what I'm talking about, there's no triad or underworld that's coercing them behind the scenes, rather it's a network of mamasans who are placing ads back in China offering girls a way to earn lots of cash fast for those in desperate need for money. This is just the situation that poor/uneducated/unskilled women find themselves in, regardless of whether they're American or Chinese, and who are you to decide for them that doing waitressing work for 20 years is better than jerking dicks off for 5 years? From the article too you'd see that LEO/ICE doubly fuck these women by confiscating their hard-earned money in addition to deporting them if they're ever caught, so if anyone is victimizing these poor women it's our damn government.

Originally Posted by poon_69

This thread is a boner kill

Sorry for killing your boner buddy, but I have a feeling you'll be getting it right back very soon seeing as you've been balling recently

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by haskellham

They're not being forced, they picked this of their own free will. If they hate massage work, they can leave and choose another line of work any time that they want since they have complete freedom, it's just massage work is the best out of all their available options. The claim that they're otherwise going to sleep on the streets and never see their family again is similarly ludicrous, because the vast majority of them tap into existing friend networks before coming over so they already have friends to stay with. Most of them can get restaurant or service work if they wanted to, but if it's a choice between doing menial labor for the next 20 years or jerking off a few dicks for a few years, which one would you choose? If you tell the average McDonald's worker that they can 20x their income by working at a jack shack, I'd bet my money you'd similarly get a large amount of women would would want to escape their daily drudgery (in fact I've seen enough local providers here to know that's true). Also do you think it's easy for them to come to America? Trump has heavily cracked down on visitor visas so the ones that come to this country have to expend considerable resources to do so, they're not being forced to come to America, rather they're paying people to try to get into the country and then picking the highest income work that they can get once here. If you read the Vanity Fair article that I linked you would completely understand what I'm talking about, there's no triad or underworld that's coercing them behind the scenes, rather it's a network of mamasans who are placing ads back in China offering girls a way to earn lots of cash fast for those in desperate need for money. This is just the situation that poor/uneducated/unskilled women find themselves in, regardless of whether they're American or Chinese, and who are you to decide for them that doing waitressing work for 20 years is better than jerking dicks off for 5 years? From the article too you'd see that LEO/ICE doubly fuck these women by confiscating their hard-earned money in addition to deporting them if they're ever caught, so if anyone is victimizing these poor women it's our damn government.



Sorry for killing your boner buddy, but I have a feeling you'll be getting it right back very soon seeing as you've been balling recently

Sorry, but a Vanity Fair opinion piece doesn't mean diddly squat. Complete freedom? Either you are being intentionally disingenuous or you view the world through some heavily tinted rose colored glasses.

You speak Chinese right?

• Me: You want to come over?
• Her: The boss doesn't let us leave, and we don't know the area

This was not during working hours. She works 7 days a week from open until close. She sleeps there. The only time she goes anywhere is when someone else takes her. She speaks no english. You're telling me this girl is there of her own free will and has complete freedom? She is a victim and tomorrow, more people, probably someone here, will come along and victimize her further.

[haskellham]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Sorry, but a Vanity Fair opinion piece doesn't mean diddly squat. Complete freedom? Either you are being intentionally disingenuous or you view the world through some heavily tinted rose colored glasses.

You speak Chinese right?

• Me: You want to come over?
• Her: The boss doesn't let us leave, and we don't know the area

This was not during working hours. She works 7 days a week from open until close. She sleeps there. The only time she goes anywhere is when someone else takes her. She speaks no english. You're telling me this girl is there of her own free will and has complete freedom? She is a victim and tomorrow, more people, probably someone here, will come along and victimize her further.

How well do you know this girl? If she doesn't know you well she's obviously going to decline coming to your place, but I've taken an AMP girl that I built up a good connection with to a hotel a few times after her work hours (before she rotated somewhere else sadly), these girls are here to make money so they're not going to jeopardize their employment unless they really trust you. The other reason why they choose to sleep at the stores is because it saves them money, their other alternative is to pay for their own lodging, and the girls at the AMP I went to who had to pay for their own hotel rooms complained about how much it costs (the hotel rooms run about $50 a night and they had to pay for uber back and forth to the hotel, so you can see how much that would eat into their earnings. I remember a few of the girls would sleep over at the store against their bosses wishes sometimes to save some money). Lastly, you didn't translate the final text of your screenshot, where the girl asks "how far away do you live". Seems to me like you're leaving a ton of context out, why don't you include the full convo if you're going to make a convincing argument?

[poon_69]

Let’s have an AMP party and find out who is right!!!

[Hogleg69]

Originally Posted by poon_69

Let’s have an AMP party and find out who is right!!!

Here here!

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by haskellham

How well do you know this girl? If she doesn't know you well she's obviously going to decline coming to your place, but I've taken an AMP girl that I built up a good connection with to a hotel a few times after her work hours (before she rotated somewhere else sadly), these girls are here to make money so they're not going to jeopardize their employment unless they really trust you. The other reason why they choose to sleep at the stores is because it saves them money, their other alternative is to pay for their own lodging, and the girls at the AMP I went to who had to pay for their own hotel rooms complained about how much it costs (the hotel rooms run about $50 a night and they had to pay for uber back and forth to the hotel, so you can see how much that would eat into their earnings. I remember a few of the girls would sleep over at the store against their bosses wishes sometimes to save some money). Lastly, you didn't translate the final text of your screenshot, where the girl asks "how far away do you live". Seems to me like you're leaving a ton of context out, why don't you include the full convo if you're going to make a convincing argument?

I'm not going to post my entire conversation with the girl because it is personal and, for all I know, her boss might be a member here. I didn't translate the other line because it's not relevant to this discussion.

To answer your first question - I haven't known her for a long time but she trusts me because I've always been kind and generous with her. She has talked about being my girlfriend. She said, the boss doesn't let them leave because that's the reality of it. She doesn't get a day off. She works from opening until closing. And she's not allowed to leave. What does that sound like to you?

[haskellham]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

I'm not going to post my entire conversation with the girl because it is personal and, for all I know, her boss might be a member here. I didn't translate the other line because it's not relevant to this discussion.

To answer your first question - I haven't known her for a long time but she trusts me because I've always been kind and generous with her. She has talked about being my girlfriend. She said, the boss doesn't let them leave because that's the reality of it. She doesn't get a day off. She works from opening until closing. And she's not allowed to leave. What does that sound like to you?

Sounds like you either haven't put in enough effort or failed your charisma check, if a girl is motivated enough she can bend the rules if she wants. I basically dated the AMP girl that I took out and it took a lot of time and effort, but she was gorgeous and the sex was mind-meltingly good. We had talked about her situation and it turns she was doing massage work to pay for medical expenses for family back home, and with the amount it cost I knew I couldn't cover it if I wanted her to stop massage work. Your girl is likely dealing with a similar financial predicament as well, so unless you want to fix her monetary black hole I wouldn't expect much progression.

Originally Posted by poon_69

Let’s have an AMP party and find out who is right!!!

Define AMP party

[purplepatch]

Originally Posted by haskellham

Sounds like you either haven't put in enough effort or failed your charisma check, if a girl is motivated enough she can bend the rules if she wants. I basically dated the AMP girl that I took out and it took a lot of time and effort, but she was gorgeous and the sex was mind-meltingly good. We had talked about her situation and it turns she was doing massage work to pay for medical expenses for family back home, and with the amount it cost I knew I couldn't cover it if I wanted her to stop massage work. Your girl is likely dealing with a similar financial predicament as well, so unless you want to fix her monetary black hole I wouldn't expect much progression.


Define AMP party

Seriously dude, what in the actual fuck is wrong with you? Everything I've described about this girl's current situation screams trafficking. Everything you describe sounds like trafficking. There's no way in hell you don't recognize that. You just don't give a shit do you? You didn't date anyone because you can't date someone who doesn't have a choice in the matter.

[poon_69]

AMP party is where we meet and listen to yall debate this while we run a train on these fine ladies that aren’t saying “no”

[haskellham]

Originally Posted by poon_69

AMP party is where we meet and listen to yall debate this while we run a train on these fine ladies that aren’t saying “no”

Sure if it's your treat. I'm half curious what the members of this board look like IRL anyways, I've seen other mongers on the monitors of these AMPs and always wondered if we've interacted online before

[poon_69]

Originally Posted by haskellham

Sure if it's your treat. I'm half curious what the members of this board look like IRL anyways, I've seen other mongers on the monitors of these AMPs and always wondered if we've interacted online before

Same. Left Hinton once and saw a fella in the lobby and said “sup fellow monger” and he grinned.

I’ll buy if anyone wants to Eiffel Tower.

[purplepatch]

Both of you are bad people and deserve bad things to happen to you.

[poon_69]

Originally Posted by purplepatch

Both of you are bad people and deserve bad things to happen to you.

Aren’t you a studio goer? I’m confused. Or did those 2 visits turn you into the trafficking ninja vigilante?

[haskellham]

Originally Posted by poon_69

Same. Left Hinton once and saw a fella in the lobby and said “sup fellow monger” and he grinned.

I’ll buy if anyone wants to Eiffel Tower.

That might’ve been me, I did visit last month lmao. Return trip this month?