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Old 11-21-2025, 10:00 AM   #16
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Telling them to defy lawful orders of the commander-in-chief...but you know everything...NOT!!
You are one to talk about insults...every post of your is LOADED with them.
I don’t believe that they are asking anyone to defy lawful orders. In fact they are asking for the military to defy unlawful or illegal orders.

There is a difference.

I think the video is political and unwarranted but it is certainly not illegal, treasonous, or seditious.

I think the OP should save his outrage for something more serious than this.
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Old 11-21-2025, 10:04 AM   #17
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What the left will contort themselves into to defend this lawless behavior. Don't expect any less from them.
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TELL US HOW THIS BEHAVIOR IS LAWLESS.
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Telling them to defy lawful orders of the commander-in-chief...but you know everything...NOT!!...
I do know this: they did NOT say what you claim.

Prove me wrong.

Don't post more misrepresentations and support of the lies that this thread is built upon.

Just....

Prove me wrong.
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Old 11-21-2025, 11:28 AM   #18
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That given there is a demented old fool as CIC and he's clearly not well, to be prepared if the moment comes.
Your concern should be allayed by the fact that President Auto-pen has been out of office for ten months now.


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Old 11-21-2025, 11:54 AM   #19
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What unlawful orders are the former commissioned officers referring to?
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What unlawful orders are the former commissioned officers referring to?
Exactly. The video is stunningly stupid and maybe the point is to provoke this exact reaction.
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Old 11-21-2025, 12:29 PM   #21
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What unlawful orders are the former commissioned officers referring to?
Not sure if you even realize it, but you basically make my point.

This ridiculous troll thread, charging "treason" and "sedition", is absurd. There were no specific orders given so far by the Trump admin that they said should be resisted. And they also gave no "orders" themselves to do so.
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Old 11-21-2025, 01:07 PM   #22
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Exactly. The video is stunningly stupid and maybe the point is to provoke this exact reaction.
So politicians using the military and UCMJ to score political points? Is that what leftists do?

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There were no specific orders given so far by the Trump admin that they said should be resisted. And they also gave no "orders" themselves to do so.
So what was the point of this public service announcement? Do they think Joe isn unaware? Do they think noncoms and Zeros are unaware?
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Old 11-21-2025, 01:56 PM   #23
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So what was the point of this public service announcement? Do they think Joe isn unaware? Do they think noncoms and Zeros are unaware?
Careful. Someone is going to accuse you of being a shill, helping me destroy this thread. Your lack of ability to pursue a logical train of argument seems almost fake.

This "announcement" was both a warning and a reminder.

The warning is over the way much of this is headed. They fear that there is considerable risk that the Trump admin will issue unlawful orders at some point. The Supreme Court has given Trump almost Carte Blanche immunity. The Nuremburg Trials made sure that no one can rely on using "I was just following orders" as a defense.

As for the reminder....People have to be reminded of their responsibilities often.

Especially when they see an environment of intimidation like the one created by Trump and his shameless, self-serving followers.

They have purged JAG's and experienced, competent officers at the highest levels.

The warfare...for lack of a better term...that Trump and his incompetent SECDEF have waged on the very safeguards intended to protect the military from unlawful orders has been......

(wait for it!)

MUTHERFUCKING INEFFABLE.

And you support these assholes.

So we've covered the "disgust" part of this thread again too. Thanks again!
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You have any more insults??
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Old 11-21-2025, 02:15 PM   #25
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You have any more insults??
You run out of lies yet?

WHERE are those statements that these people made that you claim are "Telling them to defy lawful orders of the commander-in-chief.?"

The lies in this thread...and the very ones that it was built on...are more insulting than anything I could ever say.
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Old 11-21-2025, 02:51 PM   #26
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You have any more insults??
Are you insulted?

You know what to do.

How about contribute tithe conversation - which is about the outrageous accusations being flung at members of Congress by the foul mouthed Harkonnenesque Cheater of the Free World.

Or play bait and snitch with yet another troll thread.
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Old 11-21-2025, 04:14 PM   #27
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I don’t believe that they are asking anyone to defy lawful orders. In fact they are asking for the military to defy unlawful or illegal orders.

There is a difference.

I think the video is political and unwarranted but it is certainly not illegal, treasonous, or seditious.

I think the OP should save his outrage for something more serious than this.
And who decides what is unlawful and lawful....certainly not you. The chain of command will do that and that includes Trump. Two of those clowns said that you MUST not obey illegal orders without saying what they look like. They tried to ask Crow what orders issued by Trump but he couldn't answer.
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Careful. Someone is going to accuse you of being a shill, helping me destroy this thread. Your lack of ability to pursue a logical train of argument seems almost fake.

This "announcement" was both a warning and a reminder.

The warning is over the way much of this is headed. They fear that there is considerable risk that the Trump admin will issue unlawful orders at some point. The Supreme Court has given Trump almost Carte Blanche immunity. The Nuremburg Trials made sure that no one can rely on using "I was just following orders" as a defense.

As for the reminder....People have to be reminded of their responsibilities often.

Especially when they see an environment of intimidation like the one created by Trump and his shameless, self-serving followers.

They have purged JAG's and experienced, competent officers at the highest levels.

The warfare...for lack of a better term...that Trump and his incompetent SECDEF have waged on the very safeguards intended to protect the military from unlawful orders has been......

(wait for it!)

MUTHERFUCKING INEFFABLE.

And you support these assholes.

So we've covered the "disgust" part of this thread again too. Thanks again!
Political.officers out, war fighters stay. Is that a problem for you?
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Old 11-21-2025, 04:33 PM   #29
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Political.officers out, war fighters stay. Is that a problem for you?
Oh bull-fucking-shit. The JAG's that they bounced were "political officers"? Whatta crock. And one that you can in no way back up. Not from a credible source.

Historically, the position of JAG has been respected as being one that is APOLITICAL. But the fuckfaces that you voted for have turned the tables, made accountability in the military worse off.

But since you insisted on bringing up the topic of "political officers"...

Your hypocrisy is massively reinforced by supporting an Administration that would appoint a blatantly unqualified jerkoff like Hegseth.

Whatta "war fighter."

Meritocracy my fucking ass.

When do you realize how incredibly BAD supporting this insanity makes you look?

(as does this entire thread built on lies!)
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Old 11-21-2025, 06:42 PM   #30
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You run out of lies yet?

WHERE are those statements that these people made that you claim are "Telling them to defy lawful orders of the commander-in-chief.?"

The lies in this thread...and the very ones that it was built on...are more insulting than anything I could ever say.
So nothing but your usual pathetic "you lie" screed with absolutely NOTHING backing it up. There was no lie told by the OP. Scum DEMS encouraging the military to ignore LAWFUL orders by claiming they're illegal. That appears to be beyond you. Now post some more insults....
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