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Old 04-01-2026, 05:49 AM   #16
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Of comparable interest, almost all native US Indian tribes maintain tribal citizenship lists based on bloodlines.
Being on that list is the only way for members to qualify for tribal federal support and for the tribes to qualify, based on membership counts, for related federal support on tribal reservations.

Not mentioned above (and I'm disappointed you Pittsburghians did not mention), is the coming soon to a theater nearby concept of how the birth in the US issue of citizenship case at the Supremes will decidedly have future impact on voting eligibility.
I was going to do a thread once SCOTUS rules on birthright citizenship, which started with the slaves offspring. But you’re more than welcome to start one when the decision is rendered. Why get your panties in a bunch until then?
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Old 04-01-2026, 08:38 AM   #17
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... No - President Trump used a mail-in ballot because
he happened to be in DC doing Presidential work on
Election Day --- Please try to keep up.
And WHY is that a problem?? ... President Trump is
a U.S. citizen who used a correct mail-in ballot.

... Them's the basics! ...

#### Salty
I get why that might feel like it clears things up if you're not totally locked in on the point, and only support trump's wild contradictions. Nobody's saying it's a problem—it's just wild how it flips from "secure" to "fraud" depending on who's voting. Talk about a convenient double standard.


And again, trump was in the area playing gold on early voting days where he would have had no issues dropping by to drop a ballot in person. Try to keep up.


BTW, how are all those predictions and "just waiting" coming along?
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Old 04-01-2026, 09:26 AM   #18
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175+ countries require an ID to vote.

But the US shall use the honor system to enforce. 85ish% of the country supports voter ID but your US Congress knows better than the people. The peoples’ wants are irrelevant.

President Trump is doing what he can to secure elections by making sure vote by mail has quality controls in place eliminating fraud opportunities. Let’s hope SCOTUS will uphold because that’s where it shall go.
That EO that Dirty Donnie the felon wrote- won't hold water anymore than his attempt to build a bordello dance hall. There is gonna be SO many lawsuits filed that it will never over ride the states rights to administer the VOTING in their respective states.

If the felon in chief would like that to happen, then he needs congress to pass the save act- but they don't have the votes. EO's that dramatically change state operations in a non emergency are VErY much likely to be struck down as illegal. SCOTUS will do exactly what they always do- say that shit isn't legal and throw it back saying it needs to get congressional approval to make major voting rights changes and with special concern to the timing, and how to ensure fair implementation of those changes. NOT everyone has REAL ID, or government ID. If you require it to vote- you need to provide it also- FREE OF CHaRGE or it would be considered a pole tax.


That's Dirty Donnies biggest problem. He doesn't know how to get a deal done- Despite his phoney "Art of the deal" book. I can't think of one deal he's actually been able to personally administer due to his ineptness. Damn-he's not even able to get a good "Deal" price on a hooker- paying Stormy Daniels 130k....I am certain that most pro ho's who work the Vegas strip and other places would have given up the goods for between 2-5 grand.

What a god damned dumbass he is.

You guys propping him up are made to look like fools.
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Old 04-01-2026, 09:55 AM   #19
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Federal judges have slapped down 89 of trump's EOs so far. This one will be #90 with a bullet.

News flash: EOs are NOT laws. States control elections. Water is wet, and the sky is blue.

Anyone banking on this EO holding water may want to break out their umbrella.
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Old 04-01-2026, 10:05 AM   #20
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That EO that Dirty Donnie the felon wrote- won't hold water anymore than his attempt to build a bordello dance hall. There is gonna be SO many lawsuits filed that it will never over ride the states rights to administer the VOTING in their respective states.

If the felon in chief would like that to happen, then he needs congress to pass the save act- but they don't have the votes. EO's that dramatically change state operations in a non emergency are VErY much likely to be struck down as illegal. SCOTUS will do exactly what they always do- say that shit isn't legal and throw it back saying it needs to get congressional approval to make major voting rights changes and with special concern to the timing, and how to ensure fair implementation of those changes. NOT everyone has REAL ID, or government ID. If you require it to vote- you need to provide it also- FREE OF CHaRGE or it would be considered a pole tax.


That's Dirty Donnies biggest problem. He doesn't know how to get a deal done- Despite his phoney deal book- he's not even able to get a good price on a hooker- paying Stormey Daniels 130k....I am certain that most pro ho's who work the Vegas strip and other places would have given up the goods for 4-5 grand. What a god damned dumbass he is. You guys propping him up are made to look like fools.
I think you’re right.

The US shouldn’t have voter ID or mail-in ballot security measures in place regardless of what the public thinks.

We shall encourage loopholes, the honor system, and a lack of confidence in outcomes. Those other 175+ countries that have some form of these laws are a threat to democracy I tell ya.

And btw no living person currently permitted to vote by mail is stopped from voting by mail under Trump’s new order. But that shouldn’t impact standing firm on an archaic and outdated system.
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Old 04-01-2026, 11:21 AM   #21
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Watch all The Usual Suspects publicly lose their minds when they figure out what the barcode does.

A vastly reduced # of mail-in ballots for the 2026 midterms where ballots are ONLY sent to addresses that have been VERIFIED.

Not verified?

Sit out there in the ether at your NGO and send in one frantic request after another for mail-in ballots until the cows come home.

IT WON'T MATTER.

No verified voter? No verified addess?

DEN YOO AIN'T GWOONA GET NO BALLOT SENT TA YOO IN DA MAIL.

Aw gee.
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Old 04-01-2026, 11:38 AM   #22
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Watch all The Usual Suspects publicly lose their minds when they figure out what the barcode does.

A vastly reduced # of mail-in ballots for the 2026 midterms where ballots are ONLY sent to addresses that have been VERIFIED.

Not verified?

Sit out there in the ether at your NGO and send in one frantic request after another for mail-in ballots until the cows come home.

IT WON'T MATTER.

No verified voter? No verified addess?

DEN YOO AIN'T GWOONA GET NO BALLOT SENT TA YOO IN DA MAIL.

Aw gee.

Reality > fanfic
Mail-in ballots aren't "sent" automatically anywhere federally. Under HAVA and state laws (e.g., NV's AB103), ballots go to registered voters who request them or opt-in (universal mail-in states like CA/NV). No national "barcode verification" system blocks unverified addresses—states handle it via voter rolls (updated via DMV/SSN cross-checks). 2024 saw 45M+ mail-ins processed fine.


NGOs don't "send frantic requests"—that's a strawman. Groups like Vote Forward help legit registered voters request their own ballots via state portals. Fraud claims? Minimal: Heritage database logs ~1,500 cases since 2000 vs. 160M+ votes/cycle. Brennan Center: mail fraud <0.0001%.

2026 midterms? States control it. Feds can't "deny" ballots via EO—SCOTUS (Shelby, Brnovich) limits that. NV already verifies via signature + address matching; no changes brewing.

So a lot of buildup for something that's been in place for years. Also, the immature accent doesn’t make it more accurate.
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Old 04-01-2026, 03:39 PM   #23
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Watch all The Usual Suspects publicly lose their minds when they figure out what the barcode does.

A vastly reduced # of mail-in ballots for the 2026 midterms where ballots are ONLY sent to addresses that have been VERIFIED.

Not verified?

Sit out there in the ether at your NGO and send in one frantic request after another for mail-in ballots until the cows come home.

IT WON'T MATTER.

No verified voter? No verified addess?

DEN YOO AIN'T GWOONA GET NO BALLOT SENT TA YOO IN DA MAIL.

Aw gee.
There won't be any barcodes. None of this is going to be happening.

I know MAGA hates the U.S. Constitution, but what Der Führer is attempting here is completely unconstitutional. It won't stand a chance in any court.
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Old 04-01-2026, 05:22 PM   #24
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I had Grok break down Trump’s EO, and there were some interesting points:

1) This EO includes the involvement of DHS creating state citizenship lists for every state. DHS’s role in election security is expanding.

2) Mail-in ballots are being reformed, with “unique intelligent mail barcodes”, and these ballots can only be mailed to citizens on the state citizenship lists created by DHS and SSA.

3) The order also directs the AG to prioritize investigations and prosecutions of election-related crimes, particularly related to distributing/collecting illegal ballots to/from non-citizens.

In conclusion, Trump is using DHS to secure elections via managing the voter rolls and preventing mail-in ballot fraud, while the DOJ has been instructed to prosecute any attempts to cheat.

This is what the Dems have been worried about the entire time. This is why they have been refusing to fund DHS and throwing a fit about ICE. It was always about election security.
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I had Grok break down Trump’s EO, and there were some interesting points:

1) This EO includes the involvement of DHS creating state citizenship lists for every state. DHS’s role in election security is expanding.

2) Mail-in ballots are being reformed, with “unique intelligent mail barcodes”, and these ballots can only be mailed to citizens on the state citizenship lists created by DHS and SSA.

3) The order also directs the AG to prioritize investigations and prosecutions of election-related crimes, particularly related to distributing/collecting illegal ballots to/from non-citizens.

In conclusion, Trump is using DHS to secure elections via managing the voter rolls and preventing mail-in ballot fraud, while the DOJ has been instructed to prosecute any attempts to cheat.

This is what the Dems have been worried about the entire time. This is why they have been refusing to fund DHS and throwing a fit about ICE. It was always about election security.
Yeah, that might land like a breakthrough if you're cherry-picking Grok summaries and ignoring the boring reality of how elections actually work.

States still run the show—federal oversight's a check, not a takeover. Same old process, just repackaged for clicks.

Classic move: vague legalese + your fanfic gaps = "conclusion." Rinse, repeat, bore. Yawn.


This will be challenged and struck down in a month or two. Make sure Grok tells you all about that too.
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Reality > fanfic
Mail-in ballots aren't "sent" automatically anywhere federally. Under HAVA and state laws (e.g., NV's AB103), ballots go to registered voters who request them or opt-in (universal mail-in states like CA/NV). No national "barcode verification" system blocks unverified addresses—states handle it via voter rolls (updated via DMV/SSN cross-checks). 2024 saw 45M+ mail-ins processed fine.


NGOs don't "send frantic requests"—that's a strawman. Groups like Vote Forward help legit registered voters request their own ballots via state portals. Fraud claims? Minimal: Heritage database logs ~1,500 cases since 2000 vs. 160M+ votes/cycle. Brennan Center: mail fraud <0.0001%.

2026 midterms? States control it. Feds can't "deny" ballots via EO—SCOTUS (Shelby, Brnovich) limits that. NV already verifies via signature + address matching; no changes brewing.

So a lot of buildup for something that's been in place for years. Also, the immature accent doesn’t make it more accurate.
Yawn.

The EO compiles verified lists of U.S. citizens eligible to vote, based on federal records. USPS would then deliver ballots only to those on state-approved absentee lists, with added tracking via barcodes and secure envelopes.

This prevents ballots from reaching non-citizens, deceased individuals, or ineligible recipients. It enforces standards with minimizing risks of fraud ultimately protecting every citizen's vote.

You’ll cite what the current law is, you’re just not interested in maximizing the integrity of that law. You’re good with loopholes.
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Old 04-01-2026, 09:21 PM   #27
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Heed Jimmy Carter on the Danger of Mail-In Voting

‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.’

By John R. Lott Jr.
April 10, 2020 6:27 pm ET


‘Absentee ballots remain the largest source of potential voter fraud.” That quote isn’t from President Trump, who criticized mail-in voting this week after Wisconsin Democrats tried and failed to change an election at the last minute into an exclusively mail-in affair. It’s the conclusion of the bipartisan 2005 report of the Commission on Federal Election Reform, chaired by former President Jimmy Carter and former Secretary of State James Baker III.

Concerns about vote-buying have a long history in the U.S. They helped drive the move to the secret ballot, which U.S. states adopted between 1888 and 1950. Secret ballots made it harder for vote buyers to monitor which candidates sellers actually voted for. Vote-buying had been pervasive; my research with Larry Kenny at the University of Florida has found that voter turnout fell by about 8% to 12% after states adopted the secret ballot.

You wouldn’t know any of this listening to the media outcry over Mr. Trump’s remarks. “There is a lot of dishonesty going on with mail-in voting,” the president said Tuesday. In response, a CNN “fact check” declares that Mr. Trump “opened a new front in his campaign of lies about voter fraud.” A New York Times headline asserts: “Trump Is Pushing a False Argument on Vote-by-Mail Fraud.” Both claim that voter fraud is essentially nonexistent. The Carter-Baker report found otherwise.

Intimidation and vote buying were key concerns of the commission: “Citizens who vote at home, at nursing homes, at the workplace, or in church are more susceptible to pressure, overt and subtle, or to intimidation. Vote buying schemes are far more difficult to detect when citizens vote by mail.” The report provides examples, such as the 1997 Miami mayoral election that resulted in 36 arrests for absentee-ballot fraud. The election had to be rerun, and the result was reversed.

There are more recent cases, too. In 2017 an investigation of a Dallas City Council election found some 700 fraudulent mail-in ballots signed by the same witness using a fake name. The discovery left two council races in limbo, and the fraud was much larger than the vote differential in one of those races. The case resulted in a criminal conviction.

In a 2018 North Carolina congressional race, Republican Mark Harris edged out Democrat Dan McCready by 905 votes. Fortunately, the state had relatively complete absentee-ballot records. Election officials became suspicious when they discovered that the Republican received 61% of mail-in votes, even though registered Republicans accounted for only 19% of those who had requested mail-in ballots.

A Republican operative, L. McCrae Dowless Jr., had allegedly requested more than 1,200 absentee ballots on voters’ behalf and then collected the ballots from voters’ homes when they were mailed out. Mr. Dowless’s assistants testified that they were directed to forge voters’ signatures and fill in votes. A new election was required, but Mr. Harris didn’t run. Mr. Dowless faces criminal charges for absentee-ballot fraud in both the 2016 and 2018 elections and has pled not guilty.

It is often claimed that impossibly large numbers of people live at the same address. In 2016, 83 registered voters in San Pedro, Calif., received absentee ballots at the same small two-bedroom apartment. Prosecutors rarely pursue this type of case.

Mail-in voting is a throwback to the dark old days of vote-buying and fraud. Because of this, many countries don’t allow absentee ballots for citizens living in their country, including Norway and Mexico. Americans deserve a more trustworthy system.

Mr. Lott is president of the Crime Prevention Research Center and author, most recently, of “The War on Guns.”

https://www.wsj.com/articles/heed-ji...ng-11586557667
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Old 04-01-2026, 10:17 PM   #28
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All these posts yet not one lawsuit of proof that has acknowledged both mail in ballots are illegal or prone to being false / illegal and we even have Trumpy bear mailing in his own ballot. Sad that the mimes here are about as important as Shields and Arnell (Google me if you're under 50.) when it comes to proving mail-in votes are illegal.

Just a distraction from the grifting and direct stealing going on, on behalf of Trump and his minions. I wonder what Epstein would say, or anyone with enough integrity and a lack of bias towards dirty Donnie the Felon would say??

Mail in ballots have been going on since the civil war btw.


The real threat of illegal bias and changes of voting has been from big money donors and PAC money
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Old 04-03-2026, 06:19 AM   #29
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France banned mail-in voting in 1975 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Mexico banned mail-in voting in 1992 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Belgium banned mail-in voting in 2018 - DUE TO FRAUD.

Sweden, Italy, Japan, Russia, Latin American countries and the Middle East DO NOT ALLOW MAIL-IN VOTING.

Democrats would have you believe that the 2020 election that had a staggering amount of mail-in voting was the "most secure election in American history."

Get. Fucked. You cheating bastards.
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Why are leftists so afraid of secure elections?

(^^^Rhetorical question, since we all know the answer.)
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